Mike Yurcich (Unemployed)

[BayBuck]

The article looks pretty fair. JB's summary of it is fanboy bullshit.
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Let's go to the tape!

Tweet: Dude almost cost us CJ Stroud. Didn't have the recruiting chops OSU needed.
Article: "But there were concerns about his ability to recruit at the kind of elite level the Buckeyes expect dating back to the summer, and three sources with direct knowledge told Lettermen Row that the lack of communication from Yurcich nearly derailed the program’s pursuit of C.J. Stroud."

Tweet: 3rd in line in playcalling behind Day and Wilson.
Article: "Ryan Day is at the top of the pyramid as the play-caller, and right there alongside him is right-hand man Kevin Wilson — with those two continuing to push the envelope thanks to great chemistry and innovative thinking. Yurcich has had plenty of success leading an offense in the past, but he was never going to be a primary play-caller with the Buckeyes,"

Tweet: Wasn't a culture fit basically told to look around weeks ago
Article: "But multiple sources suggested there wasn’t a culture fit for either party, and a separation will probably help both "
And jbook is not the first by any means to suggest Day told Mike to look around.

So, considering your posting name and rooting interest, how exactly should we characterize your own post above?

 

[EngineerHorn]

Thanks for your contribution and good luck. With responsibility and authority come accountability. With bad bosses, expect the accountability side to overwhelm the balance, so good luck.

I'll take whatever luck anyone wants to give. The last decade has been an unmitigated disaster, and our head coach is an immature narcissist. A month ago, it was looking pretty bleak.

We do have an AD (del Conte) who preaches accountability, and Tom got a big dose of that. The Yurcich and Ash hires, at a minimum, are solid and they are both much better than their predecessors. So there's a glimmer of hope. Maybe Tom has learned some humility and can grow as a person after all this. If not, Yurcich will land in a good place.

 

[EngineerHorn]

So, considering your posting name and rooting interest, how exactly should we characterize your own post above?

As one who is tired of fanboy bullshit, including the pile I have to sift through from our own fans on a regular basis (see the next sentence after the one you quoted).

It's not just what the summary said, but what it intentionally left out. The gist of JB's summary is "this guy sucks so good riddance." Let's return to the tape:

"Yurcich was in charge of developing Justin Fields, and the sophomore turned into a Heisman Trophy finalist in his first season as a starter. So, there can’t be many complaints about his work there. And his success helping designs offenses at Oklahoma State was undeniable and put him on the radar for Day in the first place at this last year. But multiple sources suggested there wasn’t a culture fit for either party, and a separation will probably help both Yurcich get what he wants as a play-caller and Day gets another crack at identifying the right guy for the Buckeyes."

"Yurcich has had plenty of success leading an offense in the past, but he was never going to be a primary play-caller with the Buckeyes, which could have dampened his chances of getting a head-coaching job down the road. Taking over at Texas under another offensive guru in former Ohio State coordinator Tom Herman might not get him exactly what he wants either, but it’s not a surprise that Yurcich would take that chance back in a league he knows well."

Maybe a better summary would be "Yurcich did some good work with the Buckeyes, but he was not a good long-term fit, so he left for a promotion." That reflects well on Day, Yurcich, and the entire Buckeye program.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

He won't do much with Texass' offense. Given that UT football lives and dies off substantial recruiting, they won't have the talent to be as potent as they were during the late 2000s with VY and Colt.

I think it's well known that the coaches stopped coaching Radio his last year and just let him go full sandlot ball. While that certainly makes me appreciate Radio's inherent raw talent, it also speaks hugely to what a complete fluke that NC was.

 

[BayBuck]

As one who is tired of fanboy bullshit, including the pile I have to sift through from our own fans on a regular basis (see the next sentence after the one you quoted).

It's not just what the summary said, but what it intentionally left out. The gist of JB's summary is "this guy sucks so good riddance." Let's return to the tape:

"Yurcich was in charge of developing Justin Fields, and the sophomore turned into a Heisman Trophy finalist in his first season as a starter. So, there can’t be many complaints about his work there. And his success helping designs offenses at Oklahoma State was undeniable and put him on the radar for Day in the first place at this last year. But multiple sources suggested there wasn’t a culture fit for either party, and a separation will probably help both Yurcich get what he wants as a play-caller and Day gets another crack at identifying the right guy for the Buckeyes."

"Yurcich has had plenty of success leading an offense in the past, but he was never going to be a primary play-caller with the Buckeyes, which could have dampened his chances of getting a head-coaching job down the road. Taking over at Texas under another offensive guru in former Ohio State coordinator Tom Herman might not get him exactly what he wants either, but it’s not a surprise that Yurcich would take that chance back in a league he knows well."

Maybe a better summary would be "Yurcich did some good work with the Buckeyes, but he was not a good long-term fit, so he left for a promotion." That reflects well on Day, Yurcich, and the entire Buckeye program.

Your perspective and jbook's look like two sides of the same coin. Each one is reading the same quotes and looking for the best way to spin it in favor of their own team.

 

[JCOSU86]

Alas, poor Yurcich, I knew him, Horatio

 

[Onebuckfan]

He will get the Grinch spin if UT does anything.,just avoid A real defense.Joey exposed Grinch ..SEC Big 10 defensr would expose Yurcich. Good Luck.

 

[RCSooner1974]

I think it's well known that the coaches stopped coaching Radio his last year and just let him go full sandlot ball. While that certainly makes me appreciate Radio's inherent raw talent, it also speaks hugely to what a complete fluke that NC was.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that 2005 Texas team won a fluke national title. They blew out every team in the Big XII and curbstomped Joel Klatt and Colorado 70-3 in the Big XII Championship Game. They also beat a talented tOSU team featuring 8 first round NFL draft picks and a USC team featuring Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and Lendale White.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I wouldn't go as far as to say that 2005 Texas team won a fluke national title. They blew out every team in the Big XII and curbstomped Joel Klatt and Colorado 70-3 in the Big XII Championship Game. They also beat a talented tOSU team featuring 8 first round NFL draft picks and a USC team featuring Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and Lendale White.

I meant as a fluke relative to the program's history since the mid-70s. That they needed that kind of otherworldly talent to finally get them a championship is testament to the consistent underachieving mediocrity that has defined them for two generations.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Young was UT’s Fab 5 but at least it got them a title.

 

[RCSooner1974]

I meant as a fluke relative to the program's history since the mid-70s. That they needed that kind of otherworldly talent to finally get them a championship is testament to the consistent underachieving mediocrity that has defined them for two generations.

Yeah. Well the only way UT can be successful is if they hire a dynamic recruiter like Mack Brown. That way they virtually lock up all the top high school players in the state of Texas.

 

[pnuts34]

Yeah. Well the only way UT can be successful is if they hire a dynamic recruiter like Mack Brown. That way they virtually lock up all the top high school players in the state of Texas.

Problem was, as good of a recruiter Brown was, he wasn’t a very good X’s and O’s Coach. And it showed when Young and McCoy left. He still got great talent but didn’t know what to do with it

 

[RCSooner1974]

Problem was, as good of a recruiter Brown was, he wasn’t a very good X’s and O’s Coach. And it showed when Young and McCoy left. He still got great talent but didn’t know what to do with it

He was pretty much for UT what Miami had with Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis, and then Larry Coker. He didn't have to coach the players, he just had to recruit the players who could play for UT.

 

[EngineerHorn]

UT's 2019 offense, coordinated by Tim f'n Beck:
Passing: 289 ypg
Rushing: 177 ypg
Total: 466 ypg
Points: 35 ppg

It was pretty good early in the year, including a 38 points and 530 yards against LSU. But as soon as there was enough film, about halfway through the year, the offense sputtered against the better defenses and Tim Beck went full Tim Beck, which should probably be a capital crime.

Bull case on Yurcich:
Ehlinger (296 comp - 454 att - 3,663 yds - 32 td - 10 int - 152 rtg - 663 rush yds - 7 rush tds) will be back. So will our top 2 running backs, all TEs, and 4/5 OL. If Beck could do that, then any random asshole who can fog a mirror should be able to do better with the guys coming back. Yurcich's floor has to be better than Beck, even if he just proves to be average at UT. If he can approach what he did at OKst, the superior talent should give UT a top 10 offense next year.

Bear case:
Our top 2 receivers are gone. One is Devin Duvernay, who had about 1400 yards on over 100 receptions. He was criminally underrated by the national media- caught just about every 50/50 ball thrown his way. Collin Johnson commanded a ton of double teams because of his size and range. The offense did not perform well when he was injured. Those are two huge holes to fill. On top of that, Tom Herman might not be able to help meddling in an otherwise coherent offensive system. And he still needs to grow up and prove to be a decent leader. As horrible as Beck is, his offenses at Ohio State were statistically not that different from UT's 2019. It might take 1-2 years to "unfuck" his influence on the program (it seemed JTB in 2017 never regained his freshman year dynamism).

Will be interesting to see what he's able to do.

 

[Hstead]

UT's 2019 offense, coordinated by Tim f'n Beck:
Passing: 289 ypg
Rushing: 177 ypg
Total: 466 ypg
Points: 35 ppg

It was pretty good early in the year, including a 38 points and 530 yards against LSU. But as soon as there was enough film, about halfway through the year, the offense sputtered against the better defenses and Tim Beck went full Tim Beck, which should probably be a capital crime.

Bull case on Yurcich:
Ehlinger (296 comp - 454 att - 3,663 yds - 32 td - 10 int - 152 rtg - 663 rush yds - 7 rush tds) will be back. So will our top 2 running backs, all TEs, and 4/5 OL. If Beck could do that, then any random asshole who can fog a mirror should be able to do better with the guys coming back. Yurcich's floor has to be better than Beck, even if he just proves to be average at UT. If he can approach what he did at OKst, the superior talent should give UT a top 10 offense next year.

Bear case:
Our top 2 receivers are gone. One is Devin Duvernay, who had about 1400 yards on over 100 receptions. He was criminally underrated by the national media- caught just about every 50/50 ball thrown his way. Collin Johnson commanded a ton of double teams because of his size and range. The offense did not perform well when he was injured. Those are two huge holes to fill. On top of that, Tom Herman might not be able to help meddling in an otherwise coherent offensive system. And he still needs to grow up and prove to be a decent leader. As horrible as Beck is, his offenses at Ohio State were statistically not that different from UT's 2019. It might take 1-2 years to "unfuck" his influence on the program (it seemed JTB in 2017 never regained his freshman year dynamism).

Will be interesting to see what he's able to do.

One area you failed to mention is QB development. Beck has absolutely proven that he can stunt the growth of damn near any QB given enough time. Yurcich appeared to have helped Fields quite a bit this season.

From Yurcich's past track record, I cannot fathom that he didn't add to his arsenal learning from Day and Wilson and there is no way in hell he will be worse than Beck unless Titty Bar puts him in a straight jacket.