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Michigan Coaching Speculation

HailToMichigan;1030473; said:
No, he did not. One, Sparky retired, and two, he did so three years after Bo left the Tigers organization.

my bad HTM... you're right. i went back and refreshed my memory... the incident that broke my heart as a tigers fan was the manner in which Bo fired Ernie Harwell, NOT Sparky.
 
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BrutusMaximus;1030486; said:
Like to see both sides of the opinions on this. I dont think it'll work out. RR did excellent.........in the big east. Everytime there was a game that he SHOULD have won, he didnt. Gee, that sounds familiar. That spread is very dangerous, and can burn you at any time, but has so many flaws, and so many turnover/mistake possibilities, that I truely believe it will never go anywhere. Note that WVU has NEVER had a good defense, or at least a high caliber one (remember, Big East).

I find it funny that everybody is saying "Well at least Michigan is willing to shake it up and go a different direction". Wow, can say that again. Went from a coach who would hardly run the shotgun, to this.....that is funny :biggrin:

Oh and it cracks me up that they stole WVU's football AND basketball coach in a year :)

Cooper new coach at SCUM:biggrin: chokes in the big ones
 
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I see this coaching hire as a good thing. Tsun has been pretty much the same for 10+ years, same offense, same defense, same everything.

Look, Michigan NEEDS Notre Dame to be good, they can gauge their season on how they do against them, when Notre Dame sucks, Michigan thinks they are good. For that same reason, we NEED Michigan to be good, we need them to be on the same level of competition as Florida, USC, or Oklahoma. The reality is when your biggest opponent is a joke, you're not prepared for an out of conference opponent. We need the Big10 to be strong, we have always been a major power conference, and hopefully this brings Michigan back to where they should be, one of the top 2 teams in the Big10.

Maybe it's not a popular opinion, but I am tired of seeing the Big10 down, it's been what? one year? and I am already sick of it, this is a football conference, this is the Big-Fucking-Ten! Penn State went from being a national power to a joke once they came here, it showed the nation this was a dangerous conference, and seeing people say that it's as good as the ACC or Big East pisses me off.

Good luck scUM fans, hope you win every game but the big one in November.
 
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FWIW, I watched him at Tulane have an undefeated year with his offense and Shaun King when generally playing against better opponents, talent wise, and make Tommy Bowden the star of the moment. We now know it was RR's offense, not Tommy boy's genius.

I think that it is a good hire for Michigan. I think that you'd Buckeye fans would have preferred a number of people in there rather than RR.
 
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Gatorubet;1030535; said:
I think that you'd Buckeye fans would have preferred a number of people in there rather than RR.
1. Mike DeBord
2. Ron English
3. Les Miles
4. Brady Hoke

There's four, but I'm still not overwhelmed. It may make them a more progressive team, and I will withhold judgement until he has time to get the players to fit his system, but I don't see it as an inspired hire. His coaching history in big games leaves something to be desired. Seems like reaching for a "name"...that's this one man's opinion anyway.
 
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Gatorubet;1030535; said:
FWIW, I watched him at Tulane have an undefeated year with his offense and Shaun King when generally playing against better opponents, talent wise, and make Tommy Bowden the star of the moment. We now know it was RR's offense, not Tommy boy's genius.

I think that it is a good hire for Michigan. I think that you'd Buckeye fans would have preferred a number of people in there rather than RR.

Shaun King and Woody Danztler show he can do something out of the spread besides run option. He can adjust to fit the personal.
 
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HailToMichigan;1030471; said:
Link:
CNNSI.com - College Football - Ohio State hires Youngstown State's Tressel - Wednesday January 17, 2001 08:47 PM

Does that quote tell you much? Me neither. But would it be hard to bash Tressel for not telling anyone? No, not with the right perspective.
I'm glad that you allow the quote told you nothing.

Of course, had you looked at all the linked articles that tracked back from the one you use an interesting and glaring contrast would have become evident.

Jim Tressel had openly acknowledged his interest in the position several days before. All the niceties were taken care of, OSU receiving permission, YSU granting the same.

There is no manner or means by which JT's hire by Ohio State, nor his departure from YSU parallel Rodriguez' exeunt stage left last week.
 
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I think this is a great hire for us short term but very slightly may be a good (not great) hire for Michigan.

RR has really beaten anyone outside of a let down game for Georgia.

He is going to start a new system (if he even brings the spread next year) with no good skill position speed (Mallet has to transfer unless RR stays with the Pro-Style until he gets his recruits in there).

He implemeted the 3-3-5 at WVU. His defense had the talent, so he didnt do it because of a weak 4-3/ 3-4 core, he did it cause he likes it (?). If you cant stop Beanie with 8 in the box, no way 3-3-5 will slow anyone big ten team down, six in the box is against Beanie is going to be a rude awakening for RR's defense.

His first OSU/Michigan will be in Ohio, he has never been to a game like this. The Backyard brawl, Orange Bowl, nothing is going to be close to "The Game" with Michigan having a 'green backfield' with a 'green system' and a 'green coach'. Freaking hostile is going to be an understatement of the potential environment.

In the long term, we will see if he can get the recruits. He has a second level name at a first level school, he may have hurt his recruiting for 09-10 if this is a bad year... I cant wait to see which systems he runs and if it works.

One positive right off the bat for Michigan... Maybe they will finally stop a running quarterback/spread option team now.
 
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scUM has sure invested a lot of money in RR between his buyout and salary. Time will tell if he is a good choice to run their football program. He apparently went 3-8 in his first year at WVU, that won't fly, even in a rebuilding year at scUM.

I watched his presser and thought it went pretty well, but my steriotypical impression of scUM alumns is that they are arrogant of their University (probably pretty good reasonto be) and therefore I wonder how the good ole boy came across (pretty sure I heard an "ain't" in the press conference somewhere) I also thought it was pathetic how Bill Martin tried to prove RR was a "Michigan man" because he was born only a few miles from where Fielding Yost hailed, huh?

Seems like an overall good hire for TSUN and hopefully he can help bring the B10 back to prominence (or at least respectability)
 
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SparkyOSU;1030698; said:
I think this is a great hire for us short term but very slightly may be a good (not great) hire for Michigan.

RR has really beaten anyone outside of a let down game for Georgia.

He is going to start a new system (if he even brings the spread next year) with no good skill position speed (Mallet has to transfer unless RR stays with the Pro-Style until he gets his recruits in there).

He implemeted the 3-3-5 at WVU. His defense had the talent, so he didnt do it because of a weak 4-3/ 3-4 core, he did it cause he likes it (?). If you cant stop Beanie with 8 in the box, no way 3-3-5 will slow anyone big ten team down, six in the box is against Beanie is going to be a rude awakening for RR's defense.

His first OSU/Michigan will be in Ohio, he has never been to a game like this. The Backyard brawl, Orange Bowl, nothing is going to be close to "The Game" with Michigan having a 'green backfield' with a 'green system' and a 'green coach'. Freaking hostile is going to be an understatement of the potential environment.

In the long term, we will see if he can get the recruits. He has a second level name at a first level school, he may have hurt his recruiting for 09-10 if this is a bad year... I cant wait to see which systems he runs and if it works.

One positive right off the bat for Michigan... Maybe they will finally stop a running quarterback/spread option team now.
Tressel did OK his first time on the big stage against TSUN...

However I definitely agree with everything else. His offenses have struggled against good, fast, defenses. And I just don't see his defenses containing someone like Beanie.

I think a lot will depend on who he hires as his coordinators.
 
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Tressel did OK his first time on the big stage against TSUN...
Facing Navarre certainly helped...
He implemeted the 3-3-5 at WVU. His defense had the talent, so he didnt do it because of a weak 4-3/ 3-4 core, he did it cause he likes it (?). If you cant stop Beanie with 8 in the box, no way 3-3-5 will slow anyone big ten team down, six in the box is against Beanie is going to be a rude awakening for RR's defense.
I've heard quite the opposite... to expect a return to a 4-3.
 
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