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Lou Holtz (Official Thread)

Lou seems to be quite the spin-meister.

"No coach was involved"
I guess the strength and conditioning coach doesn't count.

"Five of the violations were reported by us," Holtz continued, "there was no money involved, no recruiting violations"
Heck, they reported 5 of the 10 violations themselves. Lou seems quite perplexed about the 'lack of institutional control' finding by the NCAA; he acts like they hardly did anything wrong, and if they did, it sure wasn't good ol' Lou's fault. Like he's pleading "Please don't tarnish my legacy."'
 
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Don't be surprised if this gets little coverage on ESPiN. ESPiN is about the money and highlighting this stuff that went on at South Carolina really takes the bloom off the Lou Holtz rose.

Hey, man, I mean Lou's a celebrity:cool:, maybe just a few bad decisions by some of his underlings. Can't take exception to that! Thanks, ESPiN, it's good that you show your true colors and remind us about the cesspool of distorted values that seems to be your foundation.
 
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si.com

NCAA adds third year to South Carolina's probation

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- The NCAA handed South Carolina a third year of probation, but did not impose sanctions on TV appearances or bowl games for 10 violations that occurred during the tenure of retired coach Lou Holtz.

The NCAA Committee on Infractions reviewed South Carolina's case earlier this month. Committee vice chairman Josephine Potuto wrote University President Andrew Sorensen on Aug. 16 that the group "concurred that the university's investigation into the violations set forth in the report was thorough and complete," according to a letter released Wednesday.

The panel adopted South Carolina's proposed penalties that included a loss of four scholarships and 12 paid on-campus visits over seasons, and
-- increased the probation period to three years from two;

-- "because an element of academic fraud" was involved in some violations, according to the NCAA, it required the school to forward infractions report to its regional accrediting agency;

-- imposed a four-year show cause order should former South Carolina administrator Tom Perry try for employment at another athletic department.

Sorensen accepted the additional penalties and waived the school's right to a further hearing.

"We are satisfied with the results," South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier said. "We appreciate the NCAA basically agreeing with our proposal. For the next couple of years, we will only have 83 players on scholarship."

In July, the university released a summary disposition report, prepared jointly with the NCAA, that outlined 10 violations -- five which South Carolina admitted were major. The NCAA said one violation that the school deemed secondary was a major infraction. The disagreement will be settled in the NCAA's final report to the school, university spokesman Russ McKinney said.

New South Carolina athletic director Eric Hyman said the NCAA's decision "brings closure to this situation."

Perry, an ex-senior associate athletic director for academic support services, was at the center of the most serious violations. The report found Perry arranged for impermissible tutoring help during the summer of 2001 for two prospective players who were coming from two-year colleges. After the incident was self-reported, Perry declared the athletes ineligible and made the players make restitution for the tutoring.

The NCAA panel's letter appears to close a case that it first looked into more than three years ago. Holtz has repeatedly refused to return messages from The Associated Press seeking comment. However, at a celebrity golf tournament last month, he said "five of the violations were reported by us, there was no money involved, no recruiting violations, no enticements, but nevertheless, we don't want any marks against us."

Sorensen was gratified the committee found the majority of South Carolina's penalties appropriate.

"Carolina takes seriously its obligation as a NCAA member institution, and we shall continue to pursue with vigilance and honesty our goal of full compliance with all NCAA policies and procedures," Sorensen said in a written statement.

McGee said he was confident corrective actions the school and athletic department took put South Carolina "in a solid position to ensure that the violations do not reoccur."

McGee understood Sorensen accepting a third year of probation.

Hyman, McGee's replacement, said he hopes the school can learn from what happened and move forward. He said he'll work "to ensure that our athletics department embodies the values and ethics that higher education represents."

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Lou Holtz (official thread)

Lou Holtz could be the worst tv analyst out there. Besides the fact that this is the second time I've seen him pick against OSU (Iowa and PSU), he speaks terrible and lacks great inside info. Mark May picks OSU to roll PSU, but Holtz seems to try and pick a chic upset in picking PSU. His credibility has sunk to nill in my book.
 
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So....if someone picks against OSU in any game (God forbid 2), they automatically don't know what they're talking about at all, about anything?

I know it's fun to bash the TV guys (and I do it too), but it is getting a little much recently...I've never seen any evidence that he "has it out" for OSU.

Hell, it's a lot more fun to prove them wrong, and watch their reaction anyway.
 
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Ah yes, a good point mongoose, Holtz was an assistant to Woody in one year at OSU that we all consider at least semi-important (1968). Can't imagine he'd have any good memories from that. :shake:

I think there's a little too much Kool-Aid available recently.
 
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So....if someone picks against OSU in any game (God forbid 2), they automatically don't know what they're talking about at all, about anything?

I know it's fun to bash the TV guys (and I do it too), but it is getting a little much recently...I've never seen any evidence that he "has it out" for OSU.

Hell, it's a lot more fun to prove them wrong, and watch their reaction anyway.

Listen to him.... maybe I can't label him a "OSU hater", but he lacks the intelligent input you would expect from a prestigous former coach. As sad as it may sound, I'd rather listen to Trev Alberts than Lou Holtz. It's all based on the support he gives for his picks, they don't appear to be well thought out, but what may seem like a chic upset at the time.
 
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The set-up for those analyst shows when discussing a match-up like tomorrow's, where the line is a single score, is to have one fella take the home and one the away team. It's obvious, and it's obviously not a conspiracy, nor evidence that Holtz hates tOSU - or that May has suddenly become a born-again Buckeye analyst. It helps the network sell their broadcast of the game the next day by pumping the contest to those beyond each team's respective fanbase.
 
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