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Lou Holtz (Official Thread)

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gnepmatt;1968449; said:
Lou Holtz, who after every school he's been a head coach of has been found to have some sort of major violation right after he left. This guy is employed by ESPN, ESPN paints a picture that Jim Tressel is the sleaziest, dirtiest coach alive, yet employ someone who was far worse then Tressel. Now, I like Lou Holtz but hate the bias of ESPN..
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Is is rather hypocritical, isn't it? I love Lou, but the fact ESPN has become somewhat of a witchhunter for "corruption," it's kinda funny they have Lou on board. His major violations at South Carolina were worse than anything that's happened at OSU in the last year for sure.
 
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ulukinatme;1968629; said:
Is is rather hypocritical, isn't it? I love Lou, but the fact ESPN has become somewhat of a witchhunter for "corruption," it's kinda funny they have Lou on board. His major violations at South Carolina were worse than anything that's happened at OSU in the last year for sure.
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Yeah, but did he ever do something like know about violations and not report them?

Or did he ever break a rule in order to keep an athlete eligible?

SI.com

The committee also said Notre Dame could have avoided the infractions if it had been more vigilant in monitoring its players.

The report said Notre Dame's coaching staff had opportunities to look into Dunbar's relationship with players on two occasions but didn't ask enough questions. Former coach Lou Holtz dropped his inquiry into a trip Dunbar took with Derrick Mayes in 1994 after learning the two were dating, but the committee said a "more complete investigation at that time might have precluded what later became a significant problem."

The committee said an assistant coach had a similar opportunity to uncover the violations in 1997 after discovering that Dunbar had paid for a trip to Las Vegas for herself, two players and a player's girlfriend.

Still, it did not penalize the program for lack of monitoring, though it called efforts by Holtz and the assistant 'inadequate.'
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NewYorkTimes

The committee found that Holtz, who left the Minnesota football coaching job for Notre Dame in November 1985, had given $250 cash to an unidentified athlete to pay for a course that allowed the athlete to remain eligible for competition.

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I've noticed that Lou has been absent from the lineup of ESPN talking heads taking shots at Tressel and tOSU. I guess that either he or somebody at ESPN realizes that his criticisms would be too hypocritical.
 
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BB73;1968633; said:
Yeah, but did he ever do something like know about violations and not report them?

Or did he ever break a rule in order to keep an athlete eligible?


I've noticed that Lou has been absent from the lineup of ESPN talking heads taking shots at Tressel and tOSU. I guess that either he or somebody at ESPN realizes that his criticisms would be too hypocritical.
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Yeah, Lou definitely had his fair share of bad choices. The Dunbar fiasco is a tough call because she was seeing a few different players on the team in the mid to late 90's, so they didn't do anything initially because it was deemed to be a romance. There were also the questions about her status as a booster as she was later part of the now defunct "Quarterback Club" which was something any fan could join if they ponied up the cash. Still, he's got history at Minnesota and South Carolina for violations he was directly involved with, definitely not a face of purity. I would hate to see him gone though, cause who else will keep Mark May in his place? :biggrin:
 
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I love Lou Holtz...on "Take Your Pick" this morning they had the ND bs. USF and Lou says "I'd love to pick Notte Dame but not with my son coaching on the other sideline. My wife and I have been married 50 years, and she said if I want to be married one more year, you better not pick against him" :lol: oh Lou
 
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Lou is sporting a spiffy scarlet and gray striped tie and handkerchief combo sitting next to MARK MAY BLEW 5 DUDES AT PITT on ESPN today.
 
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Bucklion;2233363; said:
A lot of people have said that, including Ditka.
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It's a bit paradoxical, though. There are improvements to padding on other parts of the body, but injuries are up there as well.

I tend to subscribe to the theory that it's caused by players who've bulked up 25% in the last 25 years while improving their speed. That's a lot of force hitting you, in the head or on the fibula.
 
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TheStoicPaisano;2233374; said:
I tend to subscribe to the theory that it's caused by players who've bulked up 25% in the last 25 years while improving their speed. That's a lot of force hitting you, in the head or on the fibula.
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I've been wondering for a few years now if the increase in mass is pushing ligaments beyond their limits. Seems like serious knee injuries occur more frequently today than ever before, regardless of sport, and often without contact.

You never see some fat guy at the grocery store blow out his ACL wheeling around to pick up a bag of Oreos. Kids today make one cut and crumple like thoroughbreds.
 
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Bucklion;2233363; said:
A lot of people have said that, including Ditka.
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I've thought about this, I'm not sure if it would reduce concussions or not. It would reduce hits where guys lead with hits/tackles facemask first (as you should), but too many players still lead with the top of their head...which is bad. If everyone attacked with eyes up that would probably deter them from leading with the helmet with no facemask, but thats not the case.
 
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