Looking Ahead To The Combine......2007

[Sky]

Well, like I said I don't think it is an issue until draft day. If he really falls that far then some teams are going to lose out. I just hope a late draft doesn't preclude him from playing time.

 

[Big Papa]

How important do you think the combine is to someone's draft status?? I was reading an article yesterday, on either ESPN or SI, that they believe that more should be put into past play than combine scores. I am hoping that is what most scouts/gm's/coaches are doing, although the combine numbers seem to get a lot of pub.

 

[jwinslow]

- Anyone think Hall plays anywhere close to 4.39 speed with pads on?
- Chris Houston (Ark) skyrocketed today... 4.32, 27 reps of 225 lbs

FFLiveWire (unofficial times)

4.32 Chris Houston
4.35 Laron Landry
4.35 Josh Wilson
4.38 Eric Wright
4.38 Jon Wade

Notables:
4.38 Marcus McCauley
4.39 Leon Hall
4.45 Michael Griffin
4.47 Aaron Ross
4.50 Brandon Meriweather
4.51 Chinedum Ndukwe
4.53 Reggie Nelson

 

[jwinslow]

SI

Synopsis (see article for details):

Risers: Gaines Adams, Antwan Barnes, Jarvis Moss, Steve Smith, Andy Alleman
Sliders: Alan Branch, Quentin Moses, Desmond Bishop, Reggie Ball, Justin Hickman

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Sliders

Alan Branch/DT/Michigan: Branch ran relatively well in the 40, clocking under 5.10-seconds after weighing in at 324 pounds. He looked sluggish and sloppy during the drilling portion of the workout leading many to believe he is in poor shape.

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Notes: Lamarr Woodley's draft stock is taking a beating and rightfully so. The speculation before the combine was Woodley's recent workouts were so bad he would not even attempt to perform at the Combine. He did nothing other then get measured and medically checked out. Coming on the heels of pulling out of the Senior Bowl after a sore hamstring during the week's first practice, Woodley could drop out of the first two rounds. Don't read too much into Brian Robison's terrific workout Monday. The Texas defensive end ran in the 4.6's and had a vertical jump of 40-inches, which has people going gaga. But these numbers were well expected from Robison who is known as a workout warrior yet average football player.

 

[king rhabuf]

how did hall run a 4.3?
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[sandgk]

How important do you think the combine is to someone's draft status?? I was reading an article yesterday, on either ESPN or SI, that they believe that more should be put into past play than combine scores. I am hoping that is what most scouts/gm's/coaches are doing, although the combine numbers seem to get a lot of pub.

As someone said today on the radio - all these kids games are on film, once the combines and pro days are done, that is what they will pull out. They can tell that Posluszny (sp) is a stud run stopper and a good LB. They can tell that Leon Hall's 40 time in Indy is much better than his game speed.

They can also tell that Troy Smith, whose stock is being beaten down, is actually a good football player and quarterback, worthy of a decent shot in the NFL.

Combines reveal some folks from smaller schools with unexpectedly good measurables. They can also serve to downgrade and discount the bargaining leverage of a drafted player - particularly a quarterback. But, unless a player really muffs everything, there is not a guaranteed correlation between the combine results and draft position.

 

[redskinbucksfan]

how did hall run a 4.3?​

He was chasing Brady Quinn.

 

[jwinslow]

NBC Sports

Risers: Calvin Johnson, Greg Olsen, Chris Henry, Adrian Peterson, Steve Smith, John Beck, Antonio Pittman, Robert Meachem, Anthony Gonzalez, Jason Hill

Sliding: Zach Miller, Dwayne Jarrett, Gary Russell, Chansi Stuckey

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Antonio Pittman, Ohio State RB - His 4.4 40 was better than expected. His other drill times were solid. At first, I wasn't sold on this class of running backs. But there is a decent group of second-tier picks such as Pittman and Darius Walker to watch. It won't be as deep as last year's class, but it's not a terrible year to have a mid-first round pick in dynasty leagues

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Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State WR - A heady, route-running player that seemed destined for the slot in the NFL, Gonzalez showed a lot of short-area quickness. His 4.44 was expected, but his times in the short shuttle and three-cone drill were among the best at the Combine

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[king rhabuf]

He was chasing Brady Quinn.

ted ginn would be better

 

[23Skidoo]

He was chasing Brady Quinn.

ted ginn would be better

Dante Whitner did pretty good in that drill...

 

[Big Papa]

As someone said today on the radio - all these kids games are on film, once the combines and pro days are done, that is what they will pull out. They can tell that Posluszny (sp) is a stud run stopper and a good LB. They can tell that Leon Hall's 40 time in Indy is much better than his game speed.

They can also tell that Troy Smith, whose stock is being beaten down, is actually a good football player and quarterback, worthy of a decent shot in the NFL.

Combines reveal some folks from smaller schools with unexpectedly good measurables. They can also serve to downgrade and discount the bargaining leverage of a drafted player - particularly a quarterback. But, unless a player really muffs everything, there is not a guaranteed correlation between the combine results and draft position.

GPA!!!!

 

[ScarletBlood31]

Calvin Johnson is a freak. I just looked up his official stats, and they were even better than I expected...

Height: 6-5
Weight: 239
40 time: 4.35

I couldn't find his vertical or broad jump, but i've heard that he has some serious ups. Did he not do those workouts, or did he just not place in the top 10?

Either way, he is the best player by a mile in the draft IMO. He's the Reggie Bush of WR's. I'm surprised more teams aren't clawing to get him at the top of the draft, as he he much less of a risk than other elite players.

 

[jwinslow]

Did Troy not take the exam?

Troy scored a 15 (heard today on 1460).

Calvin Johnson is a freak. I just looked up his official stats, and they were even better than I expected...

#33 #35

I couldn't find his vertical or broad jump, but i've heard that he has some serious ups. Did he not do those workouts, or did he just not place in the top 10?

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