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Les Miles (grass eater)

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Deety;1973888; said:
Things that determine who is in the wrong at each step of the scenario:

If someone made a racial slur
If someone was pulled from a vehicle for violent purposes
If someone made a physical threat and stepped out of a vehicle, presumably to follow up
If someone was breaking up a fight
If someone was joining and escalating a fight

Things that don't:

How many bruises someone has

Racial epithets are atrocious and would be an emotional justification for pulling someone from a car to beat them (referencing a report earlier in the thread), but not a moral justification. If the driver threatened physical violence and stepped out of the vehicle as you mention here, that's a completely different scenario where self-defense comes into play. We don't know how the Marine was acting during the argument or whether he was breaking up or joining the fight. So there are a lot of factors here that determine who was right or wrong, and many of those are murky. Like I said, whether or not it was a beating determines whether or not the players were wrong. That someone wasn't sufficiently bruised - not relevant.
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Apparently I'm doing a terrible job of describing my thinking.

I'm not using his bruises as anything relevant to when, why, who, where, or anything else. I'm also not using it to impact guilt or innocence of either party.
Nor am I using his bruises to pass or assign blame to anyone.

I'm simply stating that does not appear to have been mercilessly like it was being reported.

Who gave him these bruises, and why is still unknown at this time.

I'm only stating that the severity of said beating appears to be grossly exagerrated.

And that opion pertains to only this victim.
 
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Nutriaitch;1973911; said:
Apparently I'm doing a terrible job of describing my thinking.

I'm not using his bruises as anything relevant to when, why, who, where, or anything else. I'm also not using it to impact guilt or innocence of either party.
Nor am I using his bruises to pass or assign blame to anyone.

I'm simply stating that does not appear to have been mercilessly like it was being reported.

Who gave him these bruises, and why is still unknown at this time.

I'm only stating that the severity of said beating appears to be grossly exagerrated.

And that opinion pertains to only this victim.
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The facts aren't fully known and you're already proclaiming him as a victim!

Why do you hate LSU football players?
 
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BigWoof31;1973779; said:
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You want to trade felony charges and the potential for incarceration for your starters in exchange for a 5 game suspension and the loss of a bowl win, be my guest.
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whooooooosh!!!!!!!!! Of course I wouldn't trade the offenses. That was the point of my joke.


I guarentee LSU won't have 5 players suspespended for 5 games as a result of this. That is my point. Break the law, miss a couple games, break an NCAA rule miss half a season.
 
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Bill Lucas;1973923; said:
I understand your point. However, we don't know what the rest of his body looks like. For all we know he's covered in bruises.
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I agree, and somewhere earlier in this thread, I said "if this is the extent of his injuries".

If the back of his skull is split wide open, or he has a ruptured spleen or puntured lungs, that would change my opinion pretty quickly.
 
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[Tiger Hater] No charges yet? Hmmm, if those Corndog lovin' cops in Red Stick drag out the investigation another 2 weeks, The Hat can let Jefferson play in the opener against Oregon by stating that he needs to let the legal process play out before making a decision on suspensions! :tinfoil: [/Tiger Hater]
 
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BB73;1973984; said:
[Tiger Hater] No charges yet? Hmmm, if those Corndog lovin' cops in Red Stick drag out the investigation another 2 weeks, The Hat can let Jefferson play in the opener against Oregon by stating that he needs to let the legal process play out before making a decision on suspensions! :tinfoil: [/Tiger Hater]
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For 25k I'll tell you who to start in Jefferson's place.....in a list I mean.
 
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blah blah, still investigating, blah blah, no arrests of players today, they just came in to talk, blah blah, "not talking about the facts of the case", blah, blah "have to follow up on info from players, two sides to every story", blah blah "Need to talk to other football player witnesses" blah blah "a week to ten days to figure it out"...."some one may be charged"...."the sun may eventually cool to a red giant and destroy the earth" (not actually said, but implied). One victim has three fractured vertebra - putting to rest the "only bruises" theory of the case. "Nothing brought out today that a racial slur was used" (making it harder to say that later - Duh)
 
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CleveBucks;1974104; said:
aka after the Oregon game
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BB73;1973984; said:
[Tiger Hater] No charges yet? Hmmm, if those Corndog lovin' cops in Red Stick drag out the investigation another 2 weeks, The Hat can let Jefferson play in the opener against Oregon by stating that he needs to let the legal process play out before making a decision on suspensions! :tinfoil: [/Tiger Hater]
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Get a room!
 
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