Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

[Tlangs]

and it took him 6 years of crying and demanding trades and quitting in games to show he needed help. He's just as big a POS as Bron is in that respect.

And he didn't get it done until the Grizzlies basically handed over Pau Gasol for a box of chicklets.

 

[WolverineMike]

i'm pretty sure a box of chicklets could work the post better than Kwame Brown

 

[Magua]

Not sure if this has been posted. Dan Gilbert fined 100G's by David Stern

Cavaliers owner fined, defends stance on LeBron - USATODAY.com

So much for freedom of speech. I understand that Stern doesn't want you bashing the refs but now you can't even openly critisize your own employees/former employees?

Gilbert is getting fined 100k for shitting on LeBron. How much is LeBron going to be fined for shitting on all of Cleveland?

 

[NFBuck]

So much for freedom of speech. I understand that Stern doesn't want you bashing the refs but now you can't even openly critisize your own employees/former employees?

Gilbert is getting fined 100k for shitting on LeBron. How much is LeBron going to be fined for shitting on all of Cleveland?

Further proof what a joke the nba has become. Gotta protect the all important image of your money makers. I think the inmates have been running the asylum for a long time...

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

king Vag is promising championships... wonder if he remembers he promised us same things

 

[Jake]

You joined within the last week.

He joined last month.

Nobody really cares either way.

Thanks.

 

[Jake]

I understand Cavs fans being pissed off that he left. But seeing them now pick apart his stats to basically say he "tanked" the playoffs and really wasn't that good doesn't make sense to me. If he sucks, why did you even want him back?

 

[Jake]

So much for freedom of speech.

Your CEO can always censor your speech.

I understand that Stern doesn't want you bashing the refs but now you can't even openly critisize your own employees/former employees?

Try exercising your free speech rights at work by calling your boss a fucking asshole to his face. My guess is, you'll see he also has rights and will exercise them. You can criticize, just be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Gilbert is getting fined 100k for shitting on LeBron. How much is LeBron going to be fined for shitting on all of Cleveland?

LeBron was a free agent. He didn't owe Cleveland anything.

Your emotions are getting the best of you.

 

[cincibuck]

My one question for all Cavs fans. Will you finally admit that LeBron travels almost every time he drives to the basket?......LMAO

Why would it be 'traveling' if the league hasn't called it so since the days of Bill Sharman and the Celtic Three Step waltz?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Again, those who are emotionally involved will never get the rest of us. Those of us who aren't emotionally involved will never feel like you do.

Funny how you include the entire nation other than Cleveland as those who support LeBronze. The reality is that LeBronze has been ridiculed, mocked and scorned almost universally outside of Miami. From op-ed writers in the New York Times to sports columnists in the LA Times, he's been portrayed as a delusional, narcissistic and dimwitted man-child, as someone who didn't have the strength to "be the man" on his own team, as someone taking the entourage concept to a new low and as the centerpiece of the most bungled self-serving p.r. stunt in sports history.

What you fail to comprehend is that for most of the country, excepting his current fair weather fans in FLA, LeBronze has forever tainted his image and brand in HOW he left Cleveland not in the fact that he chose to leave. I've never lived in Cleveland, don't particularly care for the city and have never rooted for its sports team (or followed the NBA for that matter), yet this whole sordid episode has given me an anti-Lebronze rooting interest.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

king Vag is promising championships... wonder if he remembers he promised us same things

This time around, it's easier. He has other people to actually go out and win them.

 

[mathman]

By the way he did not take less money.

Really?

Sources: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh sign with Miami Heat for $15M less each - ESPN

He signed a contract worth $110.1 million, reported to be $15 million less than the max. That means he actually signed for 88% of the max deal. Unless the Ohio Income Tax is 12%, he took less money. All three of them did. According to the Ohio government website, the highest tax bracket (over $200K) is 6.24%.

By the way, you guys in Ohio get sort of screwed by your tax structure. Income tax and estate tax are two that we don't have in Florida. Aside from property taxes, Florida's tax structure is better in every way. Unless you're poor. (We make up the difference in sales tax, which is regressive.)

While searching for details of the contracts, I found this article which makes me understand a little better why Cleveland is feeling more betrayed than seems reasonable. The author goes all the way back to Lebron's high school days.

Fooled by a 'different' LeBron James? You're not the only one: Terry Pluto | cleveland.com

 

[jlb1705]

I understand Cavs fans being [censored]ed off that he left. But seeing them now pick apart his stats to basically say he "tanked" the playoffs and really wasn't that good doesn't make sense to me. If he sucks, why did you even want him back?

I feel like we keep coming back to the same arguments every ten pages or so, but screw, I'll go at this again. Maybe I can say something new that will make things a little more clear.

Because we saw what he can do in every other playoff series before that. Regardless of what we say about him, he is still a supremely talented basketball player. As far as that last playoff series goes, I think most of us viewed him as quitting. Even if he had re-signed we would have thought he quit and expected him to work to redeem that performance. Instead, he finished the job so to speak and quit the team and everything we thought he had been trying to build.

 

[NFBuck]

I understand Cavs fans being pissed off that he left. But seeing them now pick apart his stats to basically say he "tanked" the playoffs and really wasn't that good doesn't make sense to me. If he sucks, why did you even want him back?

Where did anybody say he sucks? I still say he's the most talented basketball player in the league. Probably the best I've seen. What people are taking issue with is the way he handled himself throughout this entire process making the fans that loved him for seven plus years feel like there was a chance he was coming back when it's becoming more and more clear that the three of them have been planning this for years. And go back and read the Cavs threads, many of us called him on his shortcomings even when we felt he might still be returning. He is what he is...a player that doesn't feel he can win championships on his own so he took the path of least resistence. If he would have been straight up all along, there wouldn't be THIS big an outcry. I mean seriously, could you ever see Jordan leaving the Bulls to join forces with Isiah? Bird joining up with Magic? No. Because they thrived on competition. It's pretty clear LeBron doesn't have that same trait. It honestly doesn't bother me he ended up in Miami, I have no animosity towards the Heat. I'd rather he end there than Chicago or NY, but the way he did it and the fact that I fell for his bullshit is what pisses me off. Add on to that the fact that the body language he exhibited in the Boston series now looks a lot different in retrospect and he becomes a pretty loathsome character.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Really?

Sources: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh sign with Miami Heat for $15M less each - ESPN

He signed a contract worth $110.1 million, reported to be $15 million less than the max. That means he actually signed for 88% of the max deal. Unless the Ohio Income Tax is 12%, he took less money. All three of them did. According to the Ohio government website, the highest tax bracket (over $200K) is 6.24%.

By the way, you guys in Ohio get sort of screwed by your tax structure. Income tax and estate tax are two that we don't have in Florida. Aside from property taxes, Florida's tax structure is better in every way. Unless you're poor. (We make up the difference in sales tax, which is regressive.)

While searching for details of the contracts, I found this article which makes me understand a little better why Cleveland is feeling more betrayed than seems reasonable. The author goes all the way back to Lebron's high school days.

Fooled by a 'different' LeBron James? You're not the only one: Terry Pluto | cleveland.com

Wow what a hero.... why are you so emotionally involved in this that you came on a forum (in a thread) and feel the need to defend Lebron?