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LB Freddie Lenix (Cincinnati signee; transfer to Notre Dame College)

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generally players that go to small schools and go high in the draft have ridicuolous measurables (Jerry Rice is the exception) that get them the attention from the NFL, without the exposure, competition, and training, that playing at a BCS school provides.

This might not be the best example but someone like Desmond Howard for example, was on the biggest stage having huge games against the likes of tOSU, and ND, winning the Heisman etc... but small in size and with avg. speed for his position

If he put up equally large numbers at a MAC or conf. USA school he doesn't sniff the Heisman, he is probbaly a late round pick at best.
 
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ShakerBuck is dead on. While there will be the occasional exceptions to the norm, such as Smith, Jones, and Ware, it's clear that a great player will get greater exposure at a premiere school, and thus improve his chances of being picked at a higher spot. Smith got the exposure he did despite being at Utah only because of the system that Meyer installed and their great season...let's see how many players from Utah get drafted in the first round over the next few seasons. And you don't think that "Pacman" got some extra attention solely because of his nickname?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yeah, and we all know how high Rice was drafted...his being a near-unknown at I-AA Mississippi Valley State didn't have a negative effect on his draft position. :roll1: Talk about ignorant, uninformed, unresearched posts.

Although Cincinnati may have 11 players in the NFL, obviously they would've been drafted higher had they played at Ohio State instead, with the improved strength and conditioning, coaching, quality of opponents, and visibility.

0-for-2...quit while you're behind.
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obviously? and what research leads you to believe that other then blind bias?
outside of visibility you don't have a clue as to what in the hell you are talking about.
 
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Oh8ch said:
Hate to hear it, but for a kid in Freddie's situation it makes a lot more sense.
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Yep, it made sense to me, too. Except for the fact that he bleeds S&G :wink:

One, he won't have to pay for CC. Two, he did visit them unofficially. Three, he can't go to Iowa or another B10 team once he signed with O-State. Four, he knows what a great Defensive coach D'Antonio is. Five, he'd still be in Ohio and close to his son...

He may have been joking around about it, but maybe he wasn't kidding all that much. He probably mentioned it to more than one person.

Regardless, I'm glad as hell he's staying (if indeed he's staying :wink:).
 
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Honor&Glory said:
obviously? and what research leads you to believe that other then blind bias?
outside of visibility you don't have a clue as to what in the hell you are talking about.
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37 years of following college football tells me that great players have a significantly better chance of getting drafted higher by playing at a top-tier program, which better prepares them for the pro-level competition, than playing at a lesser school...bias to Ohio State has squat to do with it. To think otherwise shows a distinct lack of fundamental knowledge, experience, and common sense. You think guys like Olivea, Clarke, and Reynolds would've been picked at all in the 2004 draft had they played at Cincinnati?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
37 years of following college football tells me that great players have a significantly better chance of getting drafted higher by playing at a top-tier program, which better prepares them for the pro-level competition, than playing at a lesser school..
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DING DING DING DING...We have a winner!

EXACTLY...playing at a power program DOES help draft position not draft STATUS....the post that I originally responded to stated that UC had turned out ZERO NFL players/LB's which was an assinine statement...

Do I think those other players get drafted at Cincinnati? HELL YES! They probably stand out MORE at UC then they did at OSU...bottom line...they still had to put up numbers and impress at the Combine or in private work outs. For every Reynolds that plays at OSU that gets drafted there is a Jason White at Oklahoma that doesn't. To solely weigh were a player goes to school as the main reason for draftability is ignorant.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
37 years of following college football tells me that great players have a significantly better chance of getting drafted higher by playing at a top-tier program, which better prepares them for the pro-level competition, than playing at a lesser school...bias to Ohio State has squat to do with it. To think otherwise shows a distinct lack of fundamental knowledge, experience, and common sense. You think guys like Olivea, Clarke, and Reynolds would've been picked at all in the 2004 draft had they played at Cincinnati?
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Stop -- you are making too much sense! :biggrin:
 
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Playing on a loaded team could mean you dont get the playing time or the exposure needed to get drafted. You think John Kerr gets drafted if he had stayed at Indiana and puts up 100+ tackles for four straight years? Most likely.
 
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Honestly, this all goes back to the recruiting argument. Most stud players go to places like OSU and Florida State-or at least Big 10/SEC schools. These schools have more talent, so, duh, they produce more NFL players.
That said, the NFL will find you if you have the skills-Jerry Rice was a 1st round pick-in the 20s, I think, Steve McNair was the 3rd overall pick coming from Alcorn State. 25 or 30 years ago-yeah-it mattered where you went to school-the NFL's scouting systems were not nearly as comprehensive-but guys like Kenny Anderson-Augustana College-still got drafted. Now-you can be a D-II or I-AA player and the NFL will know all about you-period-they will rent a telescope and look on Mars if they think they can find a prospect. I think Lenix's chances of staying on track,eligible, and focused are better w/ Tressel and his Glenville friends at OSU than they would at UC.
 
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We are talking about Cincinnati right? Just a reminder they are in the Big East this year. So we finally have a 2nd BCS school in Ohio. I know the Big East should no longer be a BCS conference but until that is taken away Cincinnati can make it to a BCS bowl. So it is not like if someone decided to go there it is that huge of a step down that it would significantly effect their draft status.
 
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Doesn't look like Lenix is going to UC, but let's not forget, the Defensive Co-Ordinator for the 2002 NC team is now the head coach at UC. I believe just about everybody that started on that defense got drafted...In fact, I think they all did. To suggest that playing for Dantonio will hurt your chances at making the NFL is curious at best. Sure, we love the Bucks and the NFL does too, but I think Dantonio can pull some strings for his players to get noticed, just in case they weren't noticed already. In fact, he brought in quite a few studly Ohioans last year who will evenutally get shots at the NFL.

I think Cincinnati is a great option for some non-Buckeye Ohioans, and I would love to see Dantonio build a defensive dynamo in Clifton. That would be exciting.
 
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seedubya said:
Three, he can't go to Iowa or another B10 team once he signed with O-State.
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I don't believe this to be correct, seedubya. Under the NLOI program, the NLOI Lenix signed is null and void because Lenix was refused admission to tOSU for the Fall Quarter. There may be a different rule for a B10 LOI, but I doubt it. There is a slight possibility that Lenix is still bound under this provision of the NLOI Agreement:

"If I am eligible for admission, but the institution named in this NLI defers admission to a subsequent term, the NLI shall be rendered null and void. However, if I defer my admission, this NLI remains binding. "

The applicability of the last sentence would hinge on whether OSU granted Lenix a "deferred admission", i.e. confirmed admission to OSU for the Winter Quarter. From what I have read, tis does not seem to be the case.
 
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