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I agree. The perfect script and performance can produce some laughs. The majority of the time It sets back comedy 10 years. I don't find her to be naturally humorous at all.

I've never really thought Kristin Wiig was that funny, even on SNL. Leslie Jones has been awful in everything I've seen her in.

It's a good thing I think pretty much exactly the opposite about the other two members of the main cast.
 
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Awkward sex jokes are meant for women?

Billy Madison was meant for men and didn't have awkward sex jokes?

Is that what you're saying?
I specifically said it isn't one demographic. That movie was the female counterpart to Billy Madison and obviously both genders enjoy them.

And no, I didn't like the hangover nearly as much as many here. Did with have some funny scenes? Sure, but it was hailed as an all timer .
...it started on the basis that finding movies like Bridesmaids and The Heat very funny is somehow boasting their quality as the highest of its kind. It was a bad, unnecessary, straw-man to an argument over whether somebody's opinions are "better" than others. It really surprised me that two typically reasonable people like you and Muck are so adamantly staunch about something as subjective as humor in mainstream movies.
I find Bill Murray to be arguably the best comedic actor of his generation so I'm going to need more than "oh so awkward" as the heir to such an iconic comedic role. Without Murray that film is quite average.
That's exactly my point.

These movies aren't meant go be critiqued as if they were pinnacles of the art form.

In that regard Ghostbusters, Bridesmaids and "_____ Movie 6" are all judged by the same general criteria. Funny or Not Funny.

The degree to which one is better than the other is irrelevant when it comes to the argument you presented and I responded to; whether or not the cast of #GB16 (oops, I did it again) are "worthy" of carrying the torch of their predecessors... which is a purely subjective stance based upon a lot of preconceived ideas about the actors, writers, directors, etc.
Because I had to turn off bridesmaids both times I tried to watch it.
Muck made the comment that the titles in question are "chic flick versions of Adam Sandler films".

Neither him, nor I were trying to draw a parallel to Ghostbusters.

I would argue that if we're talking about the target demo in terms of maturity level, Bridesmaids and The Hangover are pretty much for the exact same audience. Without skimming this thread, I thought I've seen your opinion of The Hangover is generally favorable. Maybe I'm mistaken. Either way, that's the point I'm trying to make. Of course Ghostbusters isn't for the same audience as Bridesmaids, but the 1984 movie's target demographic isn't the same as that 2016 movie's target demographic. The casting, writing and directing for this reboot of what many, including myself, would call a "Classic" is very promising in terms of landing strong with the demographic it'll be selling to. There's a proven track record there. That's my only arguable point.

Whether or not that demographic is, as it was so eloquently put, "the female mouth breathers of society" is another argument entirely.
Well that sure was a long winded paragraph to eventually admit to the parallel after all. You are thrilled about repackaging a comedic classic with a team famous for awkward sexual guffaws. If you're allowed to enjoy them - and have a spectacular admiration for the sales of low brow comedy - then I am allowed to find them a remarkably unworthy choice.

Hopefuy I'm wrong, but having seen a ton of Wiig's work, I'm not optimistic.

As for what sells, Tyler Perry and Broke Girls thrive while Arrested Development, Better Off Ted, Community and others flounder. Success in America has little correlation to quality, particularly in the comedy field.
 
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I've never really thought Kristin Wiig was that funny, even on SNL. Leslie Jones has been awful in everything I've seen her in.

It's a good thing I think pretty much exactly the opposite about the other two members of the main cast.
:lol: so you share my disdain and can probably understand why it would shade everything else.
 
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This will never get old to me. Ever. I also love the steel drums.
 
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Saw "The Bourne Legacy" and "Immortals" recently.

The Bourne Legacy: Eh, just ok. I was a huge fan of the original trilogy with Damon. This one got bogged down and was too "science-y". Action scenes were too few and far between for a series that prides itself on them. Jeremy Renner did the best with what he was given, though.

Immortals: I like Henry Cavill, but the art style here is too close to "300" for my liking. Decent action and Mickey Rourke is perfect for the role he's cast in.
 
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