Lane Kiffin (HC Ole/Young Miss & Twitter Troll King)

[Gatorubet]

I think you meant "BI FY" - Broke it for you.

If by your two posts on this subject you are saying Meyer is an unethical coach, or that he engages in unethical recruiting practices, you should provide reasons for that opinion, without which it looks like your opinion is based upon ignorance of the man and his practices. That is not unusual if you are not an avid Florida fan, but it is not well supported none the less.

I mean, feel free to put slappy smilies all over your post, but they will not substitute for a complete absence of evidence and proof to support that assertion of unethical behavior.

As to your amusement with the existence of a Code of Ethics in the SEC, it looks a little petty, honestly. It is like saying "(Fill in political party) Ethics Committee" and posting a slappy. You are obviously trying to say something (or at least imply that the SEC has no ethics), but the lack of any specifics makes the post look like some bucknutsesque simplistic and over-broad smack...'course, that is just my opinion.

Hatin' on the SEC is not unusual, but with an absence of stated facts, it leaves me to look at other reasons for the hatin'

 

[HailToMichigan]

I think you meant "BIFY" - Broke it for you

SEC Code of ethics you just can't make this shit up.

Yeah, you haven't heard? Things like how much to tip a high school coach, what not to say when texting a recruit during a dead period, appropriate excuses for booting a third-string offensive lineman when you accidentally sign too many recruits. It's like Miss Manners for coaches. Les Miles may have run afoul of this by calling a pass instead of a run on his fake punt when up five touchdowns.

Kiffin sin was simply forgetting to say, "bless his heart" after calling Meyer a cheater.

 

[buckiprof]

Southeastern Conference Code of Ethics is a nice little document to peruse. Consider these gems under Academic Integrity:

10.3.1 Coaches shall only recruit prospective student-athletes who have the necessary academic background to succeed as
students at his/her institution.
10.3.2 In determining a prospective student-athlete's initial eligibility status, institutions shall be responsible for making every
effort to assure that credentials utilized to determine eligibility are accurate and authentic.

 

[BUCKYLE]

If by your two posts on this subject you are saying Meyer is an unethical coach, or that he engages in unethical recruiting practices, you should provide reasons for that opinion, without which it looks like your opinion is based upon ignorance of the man and his practices. That is not unusual if you are not an avid Florida fan, but it is not well supported none the less.

I mean, feel free to put slappy smilies all over your post, but they will not substitute for a complete absence of evidence and proof to support that assertion of unethical behavior.

As to your amusement with the existence of a Code of Ethics in the SEC, it looks a little petty, honestly. It is like saying "(Fill in political party) Ethics Committee" and posting a slappy. You are obviously trying to say something (or at least imply that the SEC has no ethics), but the lack of any specifics makes the post look like some bucknutsesque simplistic and over-broad smack...'course, that is just my opinion.

Hatin' on the SEC is not unusual, but with an absence of stated facts, it leaves me to look at other reasons for the hatin'

Fuckin' lawyers. Always "blah-blah-blahin'" an' shit.

 

[jwinslow]

Fuckin' lawyers. Always "blah-blah-blahin'" an' shit.

this.

 

[HailToMichigan]

Southeastern Conference Code of Ethics is a nice little document to peruse. Consider these gems under Academic Integrity:

Coaches shall only recruit prospective student-athletes who have the necessary academic background to succeed as students at his/her institution.

We're talking about Tennessee here. There's a very broad definition of "succeed."

 

[buckiprof]

We're talking about Tennessee here. There's a very broad definition of "succeed."

Granted. But how broad of a definition does one use for "Integrity" in "Academic Integrity" for the whole conference?

 

[HailToMichigan]

Granted. But how broad of a definition does one use for "Integrity" in "Academic Integrity" for the whole conference?

About equally broad as "Academic."

 

[3074326]

Hatin' on the SEC is not unusual, but with an absence of stated facts, it leaves me to look at other reasons for the hatin'

Facts?

 

[Nutriaitch]

Les Miles may have run afoul of this by calling a pass instead of a run on his fake punt when up five touchdowns.

if you had paid a lil closer attention to our QB situation last year, you wouldn't be knocking him for trying someone new.

 

[BuckeyeMafia]

I feel so bad for the UT players. Florida is going to knock the shit out of them even more than they would've before.

I 'spect like 45-10, and I won't even bitch about UF running up the score this time.

 

[TheGrayArcher]

If by your two posts on this subject you are saying Meyer is an unethical coach, or that he engages in unethical recruiting practices, you should provide reasons for that opinion, without which it looks like your opinion is based upon ignorance of the man and his practices. That is not unusual if you are not an avid Florida fan, but it is not well supported none the less.

I mean, feel free to put slappy smilies all over your post, but they will not substitute for a complete absence of evidence and proof to support that assertion of unethical behavior.

As to your amusement with the existence of a Code of Ethics in the SEC, it looks a little petty, honestly. It is like saying "(Fill in political party) Ethics Committee" and posting a slappy. You are obviously trying to say something (or at least imply that the SEC has no ethics), but the lack of any specifics makes the post look like some bucknutsesque simplistic and over-broad smack...'course, that is just my opinion.

Hatin' on the SEC is not unusual, but with an absence of stated facts, it leaves me to look at other reasons for the hatin'

In absolutely no way do I mean the following to be interpreted as an attack on UF or Meyer because I don't have a negative opinion of either. That said, he didn't clarify his argument because there are quite a few people who believe that the SEC's lack of ethical boundaries is common knowledge. And just to be specific, by quite a few people I mean the majority of the people who live outside the South East.

 

[The Zooker]

They're all cheaters. The only difference being how good they are at not getting caught.

 

[billmac91]

If by your two posts on this subject you are saying Meyer is an unethical coach, or that he engages in unethical recruiting practices, you should provide reasons for that opinion, without which it looks like your opinion is based upon ignorance of the man and his practices. That is not unusual if you are not an avid Florida fan, but it is not well supported none the less.

I mean, feel free to put slappy smilies all over your post, but they will not substitute for a complete absence of evidence and proof to support that assertion of unethical behavior.

As to your amusement with the existence of a Code of Ethics in the SEC, it looks a little petty, honestly. It is like saying "(Fill in political party) Ethics Committee" and posting a slappy. You are obviously trying to say something (or at least imply that the SEC has no ethics), but the lack of any specifics makes the post look like some bucknutsesque simplistic and over-broad smack...'course, that is just my opinion.

Hatin' on the SEC is not unusual, but with an absence of stated facts, it leaves me to look at other reasons for the hatin'

1. Meat Market

2. Seven of the SEC's most famous infractions - Reports from The Birmingham News - al.com

ALABAMA (2002) Three boosters were found guilty of football recruiting violations, including payments to two prospects and one player. UA was on probation at the time. Sanctions: Five years of probation, loss of 21 scholarships and disassociation of boosters.

KENTUCKY (2002) Case involved football recruiting coordinator, two other assistants, a football camp director. Among the violations: the coordinator provided cash and no-cost lodging for prospects, paid an ACT tutorial fee for another prospect and sent a money order to a prep coach to entice a player. Sanctions: Three years of probation, one-year postseason ban, loss of 19 initial scholarships and reduction of maximum scholarships by five.

LSU (1998) Basketball coach gave a prospect cash, helped land jobs for the athlete's mother and sister and paid medical bills for the player. Sanctions: Three years of probation, loss of eight initial scholarships and two maximum scholarships and forfeiture of games.

OLE MISS (1994) Illegal football recruiting inducements by coaches and boosters, boosters taking prospects to a strip club and unethical conduct by the head coach. The 1994 probation followed 1986 sanctions on similar grounds. Sanctions: Four years of probation, two-year postseason ban, one-year TV ban, loss of 24 scholarships and reduction of official recruiting visits from 56 to 40.

AUBURN (1993) Football program guilty of providing game-performance bonuses, regular cash payments and using ineligible players. Sanctions: Two years of probation, two-year postseason ban, one-year TV ban, loss of 13 initial scholarships.

KENTUCKY (1988) Assistant basketball coach sent cash to a prospect's home by FedEx. Other violations included improper lodging, transportation, clothing and meals, academic fraud and unethical conduct. Sanctions: Three years of probation, two-year postseason ban, one-year TV ban, loss of six scholarships and the return of NCAA Tournament revenue.

FLORIDA (1985) Illegal fund by head football coach, unethical conduct by six athletic department employees, improper use of complimentary tickets to pay athletes, improper entertainment of prospects and improper transportation and lodging. Sanctions: Two years of probation, two-year postseason ban, two-year TV ban, loss of 10 scholarships and the reduction of maximum scholarships by 10. Compiled by Doug Segrest from the NCAA Legislative Database.

....above doesn't even mention Roy Adams, his admitted handshakes, parties, and favoritism of clean-cut kids.

The SEC is a different animal....I don't think anyone really has to substaniate their opinion on SEC ethics, when it is widely known how rogue the whole deal is.

 

[TheGrayArcher]

Granted. But how broad of a definition does one use for "Integrity" in "Academic Integrity" for the whole conference?

To be completely honest though, it's not as though the SEC is going out of its way to recruit athletes who measure poor academically. They are just working with what they've got.

And Id like to add that the above shouldn't be confused with racism. I'm simply acknowledging that being born in the south makes you faster and applying the logic that it has to balance out someway.