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Ky +5.5 vs tOSU (ov/un 137.5) Fri 9:45 ET, CBS

WolverineMike;1899159; said:
he didn't need a three pointer. my point was I didn't agree with the run and shoot play. Especially with Buford running it when he was 2-15 on the night anyway.

What would you have done in that case? I happen to agree with BB73--when you've only got 5 seconds to go the length of the floor, you're much better off catching the defense out of position and being able to run the ball up the floor. You call a timeout, and the defense has a chance to get set and make you waste a second or two after you inbound the ball. And there was no time for OSU to inbound the ball, run it past half court and call timeout--they would have been lucky to have 1.5 seconds on the clock if they had done so.

Buford got a great look at the basket. He just missed the shot. But I'll tell you this--if you gave Matta the opportunity to be in a Sweet Sixteen game against a team as good as UK with a player the caliber of Buford getting a great look at the buzzer to win it, I guarantee he takes it.
 
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buckeyesin07;1899166; said:
What would you have done in that case? I happen to agree with BB73--when you've only got 5 seconds to go the length of the floor, you're much better off catching the defense out of position and being able to run the ball up the floor. You call a timeout, and the defense has a chance to get set and make you waste a second or two after you inbound the ball. And there was no time for OSU to inbound the ball, run it past half court and call timeout--they would have been lucky to have 1.5 seconds on the clock if they had done so.

Buford got a great look at the basket. He just missed the shot. But I'll tell you this--if you gave Matta the opportunity to be in a Sweet Sixteen game against a team as good as UK with a player the caliber of Buford getting a great look at the buzzer to win it, I guarantee he takes it.
This whole thing. Not like FSU's last shots at all. You got a good look that just did not go in.
 
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From a Kentucky standpoint, keep in mind that John Calipari is the "great vacator" so the odd's of Kentucky keeping these wins is perilous. Also, Kentucky lost in the Elite 8 last year with the "best" team when everyone on their team went stone cold. Also, censored Kentucky
 
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Easy to say now, but I think you ought to call TO to set up a play, even with only 6 or so seconds left. This was the S16, it wasn't the type of game that you take your chances with your players doing something great on their own. Down 2, there are a lot of options - you don't have to shoot a 3. I don't think the shot WB got was a particularly good one. But that's Matta's style, though - he lets his players have freedom to be who they are, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't - and that's part of why he recruits as well as he does.
 
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the flip side is that with 5 + seconds and veteran/cerebral players, they have time to push the ball and prevent the defense from getting set. It worked in my opinion with the exception of Diebler inbounding the ball, I would have preferred him sprinting to the three point line, but in the heat of the game, WB got a decent look and rebound opportunity that UK tipped towards half court.

I have no issue with the last shot.
 
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They did the right thing anyone that knows basketball knows this....a time out lets Kentucky get their defense set and all they have to do is defend hard for 5 seconds.....they pushed the ball and got a good look...so what if Will was 2 for whatever....he has the green light because eventually he is going to be three for whatever. The second guessing is a joke especially by a vulverine fan.
 
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Seriously. How many times have we watched WB drain such a shot? He was reasonably square to the basket and was in a good rhythm when he let it go. Unfortunately he doesn't shoot 100% from beyond the arc. Part of the game. Have no problem going for the win, and I have no problem with Buford being the one who took the shot even in the face of a cold night shooting.

He buries it and our discussion is ONIONS! and how he was able to put an otherwise poor night shooting behind him to get it done when it mattered.

There are a number of missed buckets which we could "blame" Lighty missed a sure 2 when he decided to go reverse layup rather than taking it straight to the hole. WB missed a couple of 2s he normally hits... Sully was getting mugged down low, but not converting 2s he normally powers thru. And... I don't blame one of them or all of them for Ohio State's loss. That's the way the ball bounces some times.

Fact is - some credit has to go to Kentucky. They played a whale of a defensive ball game.
 
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Indeed he makes that and he goes from scapegoat to hero in an instant and his bad shooting night is forgiven. One note though despite it being said I don't think Jones or Harellson did that great of a job on Sully from what I saw Sully had them sealed numerous times. What Kentucky did do a great job of was giving us no passing lanes to him numerous times when he had his man sealed.
 
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bassbuckeye07;1899226; said:
They did the right thing anyone that knows basketball knows this....a time out lets Kentucky get their defense set and all they have to do is defend hard for 5 seconds.....they pushed the ball and got a good look...so what if Will was 2 for whatever....he has the green light because eventually he is going to be three for whatever. The second guessing is a joke especially by a vulverine fan.

just offering up my opinion. seemed like a no brainer to try and get it to Deibler as opposed to the guy who was 2-14 from the floor. But what do I know......better yet, what do any of us know, since we're not players or coaches in anything other than possible rec leagues :lol:
 
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Yeah I think everyone's first choice there would be Diebs or Sully down low if he was there. However the way the play set up there may of been a step in 3 if he dropped it off to his right but it would of been Sully taking the 3 which is not really a better shot. Plus they probably would of swarmed all over Diebler if we called a timeout to set up a play.
 
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WolverineMike;1899256; said:
just offering up my opinion. seemed like a no brainer to try and get it to Deibler as opposed to the guy who was 2-14 from the floor. But what do I know......better yet, what do any of us know, since we're not players or coaches in anything other than possible rec leagues :lol:


I wouldnt have taken the time out in my 30 and over rec league....and if WB was on our team I would give him the green light....hell I would have given Dallas Lauderdale the green light from there on our team....come to think of it Dallas if your reading this pm me. I think you would pass for over 30 and we could dominate
 
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