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Kevin (Tim “Asshat” Racadb) Warren (ex-B1G Commissioner)

They've already acknowledged that it isn't about the virus. "The harm would be incredible" if the world saw what was discussed?

"We need to cancel sports to protect the students" would not cause incredible harm if that's what was in the minutes.

Hmmm...what would?

That statement alone did it for me.

That said, what kind of completely incompetent boob says something like that? Dude would be fired before his ass hit the chair if I called him into my office to fire him.

If it’s nothing more than insight into the incompetence of all those making decisions, they all have to go. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if they aren’t competent enough to cover their tracks, they sure as fuck aren’t competent enough to run an organization like the B1G.
 
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I didn't say you said it, it just seems to me that there are lot of people saying stuff like "secretive! what do they have to hide?, conspiracy!" bullshit and it's really beginning to emit a whiff of BWI. Shall we have a rally for the resignations?

I didn't arbitrarily come up with the notion that they have something to hide. Their attorney made it quite obvious that they have something to hide.



If it's really just about player safety then what's the concern? The "harm would be incredible" is pretty dramatic. WTF is he talking about? Maybe you don't give a shit but I want to know. I don't think I'm alone in that regard.
 
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I didn't say you said it, it just seems to me that there are lot of people saying stuff like "secretive! what do they have to hide?, conspiracy!" bullshit and it's really beginning to emit a whiff of BWI. Shall we have a rally for the resignations?

People are acting like the B1G went off the rails and arbitrarily cancelled a season for Illuminati-like reasons.
But the PAC-12 cancelled their season
The MAC cancelled their season
Several smaller conferences cancelled their seasons.

Yeah, none of them are as important to us as OSU/B1G. But again, it is what it is. Seeing a mass cover up is just a waste of energy.

I'm not saying you are believing or saying all this, Jake. I'm just making an observation of the tone of responses I've read.
Why if they divulged the vote and minutes of the meeting would it ruin your weekend.
 
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I didn't arbitrarily come up with the notion that they have something to hide. Their attorney made it quite obvious that they have something to hide.



If it's really just about player safety then what's the concern? The "harm would be incredible" is pretty dramatic. WTF is he talking about? Maybe you don't give a shit but I want to know. I don't think I'm alone in that regard.

Exactly. Just precisely what is it about the documents that releasing them would cause "incredible harm"?
 
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Big Ten attorney Andrew Luger argues the "harm would be incredible" if board of directors documents were made available to the public just because eight student-athletes disagree with the decision. He said the court is asking for something with "no precedent."

I don’t think it’s a matter of the content of the documents. I think he’s arguing against releasing them as a matter of jurisprudence. Just because eight punk kids don’t like something isn’t enough reason to forfeit confidentiality of process and risk reputations blah blah, and so forth and so on…

I don’t necessarily agree, but I think that’s his point.
 
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Looking at this now some of the Warren quotes are hilarious. Remember, the players' list of demands came out the same day as the revised schedule.

"I always embrace really healthy communication with people in the Big Ten, and especially our student-athletes..."

"My whole goal is to make sure that our student-athletes feel embraced, empowered, encouraged and they have a platform to speak and we have transparency with them."


Big Ten players follow Pac-12, form unity group to address concerns

We know what happened 6 days later. Both conferences suffered massive Covid outbreaks and cancelled their seasons.
 
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The Big Ten's credibility is being torn apart from the inside out, and it only has itself to blame

From a leader on the brink to schools that can't get on the same page, the Big Ten has some coalescing to do


Didn't you used to be the Big Ten, all class and formality? Bo and Woody may have flipped now and then, but the league was mostly 3 yards and a cloud of decorum. Legends and Leaders may have flopped as division names, but they endured as the foundations of a 124-year-old league.

Yeah, yeah. The Big Ten (and its yappy parents) needs football. But first, the conference needs to decide what it wants.

Seventeen days after announcing it would attempt to play in spring 2021 -- a decision that came 6 days after the Big Ten released its fall 2020 schedule -- the league is now at least considering a Thanksgiving-week start. That is one of a number of options that also include a January 2021 start.

Pick a lane, Big Ten.

The increasing rift within the league is obvious. Big Ten coaches joined on a conference call to discuss schedule options. League presidents, who voted overwhelmingly not to play this fall, may be hearing questions from the trustees who employ them.

Worse, a lot of this rift has become public.

We are told there will be no decisions for 7-10 days while the Big Ten continues to figure itself out. Isn't that a treat? Quiet is good from a conference that can't keep from making the wrong kind of noise lately.

The first question: What changed between Aug. 11 and now? Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren has been criticized for his lack of transparency in making the no-fall-football announcement on that date. Then, when he did issue "An Open Letter To The Big Ten Community" on Aug. 19, Warren wrote the decision to postpone the fall season "will not be revisited."

That was all but proved false Friday when sources confirmed to CBS Sports what the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel first reported: A bunch of folks in the league had at least reconsidered playing in the fall.

That is not good when Warren had drawn his line in the sand. That line has at least been blurred, if not erased entirely.

Nothing may come of it … or the league may emerge in the next two weeks with a new, detailed plan. One Big Ten source said a fall 2020 start may hinge on a medical "miracle" surrounding COVID-19 (better testing and contact tracing).

Big Ten sources increasingly indicate the league's focus is on developing the best spring 2021 schedule possible. Something that would mitigate the problem of playing two seasons in a calendar year. Something that would end before the NFL Draft.
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There seems to be a lack of a crisis management plan and issues with strategic communications. Below the surface, a return to play task force continues to study medical, scheduling and broadcast issues going forward.

Elsewhere, it's a spit show. Attorney Tom Mars has not only submitted Freedom of Information Act requests to 13 of the 14 Big Ten schools, he is sharing schools' replies publicly on Twitter. (Northwestern, a private university, is not subject to such requests.)

Concerns over litigation have to be real.

As frivolous as a lawsuit by Nebraska players looks initially, damage could be inflicted. The Big Ten could be compelled to release documents that actually reveal how and why the league decided to postponed the season.

And that's not to mention how the issue has been politicized since the start.

If the Big Ten changes its mind, in some way, it will be seen as caving to pressure.

Either way, there is this uncomfortable possibility: The Big Ten might be playing regular-season games the same week Alabama meets Clemson in the CFP National Championship.

All of it indicates a new stratification among the Power Five. For now, the ACC, Big 12, SEC -- and even the Pac-12 -- have the upper hand.
  • SEC commissioner Greg Sankey has been transparent and progressive in releasing medical updates and advancing testing protocols. If the league eventually has to postpone the season, don't blame Sankey or his conference. They will have done everything medically and ethically possible to play.
  • The stratification may hinge on the Big 12 finding its own expert to lessen the concern over myocarditis. Dr. Michael Ackerman of the Mayo Clinic convinced Big 12 leaders that heart inflammation as a result of COVID-19 was not necessarily a threat. Meanwhile, myocarditis was a key factor in the Big Ten and Pac-12 postponing their fall season.
  • The ACC's decision to play gives us a final season of Trevor Lawrence. We might just get it, too. On Friday, the ACC became the second Power Five conference to announce it is testing three times a week during game week. CBS Sports reported this week that the Big 12 will make a similar announcement.
  • For a conference everyone loves to rip, the Pac-12 has been a bastion of stability since making its decision. Silent coaches, no parent revolts, no talk of going back on its decision. Everybody is on the same page. The Pac-12 remains the only league to release a detailed document as to why it postponed the season. If it wasn't for laying off 88 of its Pac-12 Network employees, this summer might have been Larry Scott's shining moment.
Warren has to mend fences -- at least with the other Power Five commissioners. It has been widely reported that the July 9 decision to go with a conference-only schedule surprised Warren's peers.
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Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...e-inside-out-and-it-only-has-itself-to-blame/
 
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Big Ten sources increasingly indicate the league's focus is on developing the best spring 2021 schedule possible.
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  • The stratification may hinge on the Big 12 finding its own expert to lessen the concern over myocarditis. Dr. Michael Ackerman of the Mayo Clinic convinced Big 12 leaders that heart inflammation as a result of COVID-19 was not necessarily a threat. Meanwhile, myocarditis was a key factor in the Big Ten and Pac-12 postponing their fall season.
  • The ACC's decision to play gives us a final season of Trevor Lawrence. We might just get it, too. On Friday, the ACC became the second Power Five conference to announce it is testing three times a week during game week. CBS Sports reported this week that the Big 12 will make a similar announcement.
  • For a conference everyone loves to rip, the Pac-12 has been a bastion of stability since making its decision. Silent coaches, no parent revolts, no talk of going back on its decision. Everybody is on the same page. The Pac-12 remains the only league to release a detailed document as to why it postponed the season. If it wasn't for laying off 88 of its Pac-12 Network employees, this summer might have been Larry Scott's shining moment.
Warren has to mend fences -- at least with the other Power Five commissioners. It has been widely reported that the July 9 decision to go with a conference-only schedule surprised Warren's peers.

About that myocarditis thing:

Murthy sought to fact check this study because he believed it was being used in a way that did not properly reflect the information conveyed. And with a situation as crucial as this one, adhering to the utmost standards of accuracy is absolutely critical. “The cardiac MRI study of COVID patients recently published in JAMA cardiology has a number of issues,” Murthy told Wolverine Digest. “The most serious of them are irregularities in the statistics which suggest either serious errors or perhaps even manipulation. These were identified by Prof. Darrel Francis and Graham Cole, cardiologists at Imperial College London.”

Manipulation? Surely, nothing about the pandemic has been manipulated to serve personal interests. Errors? Was there not rigorous peer review or did they rush the findings to press?

The B1G panicked. Whether it was myocarditis, players organizing, or both, they fucked up. There was no urgency to make a decision on August 11th. A saliva-based test has come out since then, among other things.

Leading Cardiologist: Myocarditis Shouldn't Stop Big Ten From Playing Football
 
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The Big Ten Conference appears to rely upon the fact it's not a publicly funded entity, unlike all but one of its member institutions. That provides cover for maintaining confidentiality relative to its BOD meetings.

That reliance has its upside and downside, as we're seeing here.
 
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