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Joe Flacco (Baltimore Ravens)

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buckeyesin07;2312985; said:
I'd expect him to say something that's not laughable and ridiculous. This may come as news to you, but there's a lot of mediocre-to-good QBs that have won a Super Bowl, so let's not overstate Joe's ability based on winning. The fact that he won a Super Bowl doesn't make him any less of a clown for thinking he's the best QB in the league.
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Flacco has earned his keep. He's won a ton of games and has a pretty solid record in the playoffs as well. I don't see anything wrong with his mentality. If this guy was a Buckeye, you'd be gushing over him.
 
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buckeyesin07;2312985; said:
I'd expect him to say something that's not laughable and ridiculous. This may come as news to you, but there's a lot of mediocre-to-good QBs that have won a Super Bowl, so let's not overstate Joe's ability based on winning. The fact that he won a Super Bowl doesn't make him any less of a clown for thinking he's the best QB in the league.
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This may come as news to you - but he was the biggest reason they won that Super Bowl. I'm not overstating it. He looked great. Well-deserved MVP.

Seriously dude, he won the fucking MVP of the Super Bowl and you're making sound like he was just along for the ride. He and a couple other players carried that team, because the defense sure as hell didn't.

I already said I didn't think he was even top 5. But again, if I have a QB who is above average, I want him to think he's the best. Why wouldn't you? Why would you want a guy who doesn't have all the confidence in the world in his ability to perform? That would make him a clown.
 
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3074326;2314343; said:
This may come as news to you - but he was the biggest reason they won that Super Bowl. I'm not overstating it. He looked great. Well-deserved MVP.

Seriously dude, he won the [censored]ing MVP of the Super Bowl and you're making sound like he was just along for the ride. He and a couple other players carried that team, because the defense sure as hell didn't.

I already said I didn't think he was even top 5. But again, if I have a QB who is above average, I want him to think he's the best. Why wouldn't you? Why would you want a guy who doesn't have all the confidence in the world in his ability to perform? That would make him a clown.
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Check post #141--that'll clearly come as news to you, given your post. And stats like that, showing Flacco to be a middle-of-the-road QB in the NFL, make him a clown when he says he's the best.

Look, if you want to pat the guy on the back and recharacterize his ridiculous, unsubstantiated bravado as something you want in a QB, by all means, you're free to do so. But, as I said, let's not act like he's something he's not just b/c he happened to be a member of a team that won a Super Bowl.

I have stats on my side. You just have the same tired argument that goes something like, "But, but he won a Super Bowl!" Color me unimpressed for Flacco's "accomplishing" something that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have done.
 
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buckeyesin07;2314355; said:
Check post #141--that'll clearly come as news to you, given your post. And stats like that, showing Flacco to be a middle-of-the-road QB in the NFL, make him a clown when he says he's the best.

Look, if you want to pat the guy on the back and recharacterize his ridiculous, unsubstantiated bravado as something you want in a QB, by all means, you're free to do so. But, as I said, let's not act like he's something he's not just b/c he happened to be a member of a team that won a Super Bowl.

I have stats on my side. You just have the same tired argument that goes something like, "But, but he won a Super Bowl!" Color me unimpressed for Flacco's "accomplishing" something that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have done.
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The facts also state his incredible post season record but you don't post that because it doesn't support your argument. That might be the most important stat of all. But continue on with this silly little game.
 
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Methinks some folks are still bitter Flacco beat out Troy for the starting job five years ago. His W-L record is as good as anyone the last five years, and he stepped up big time this postseason. Do I think the contract is a little ridiculous? Yep, but after an amazing postseason like that, he was gonna get paid by someone. Baltimore had no real choice but to pay him.

That said, the Ravens are losing their ass this offseason. There isn't gonna be much left around Flacco come September.
 
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matcar;2314356; said:
The facts also state his incredible post season record but you don't post that because it doesn't support your argument. That might be the most important stat of all. But continue on with this silly little game.
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Now that his defense isn't around to carry the load (to say nothing of Boldin), we'll see just how good of a QB Joe is, I guess.
 
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NFBuck;2314364; said:
Methinks some folks are still bitter Flacco beat out Troy for the starting job five years ago.
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That may be true if it were accurate. Recall Troy had some medical problem (can't recall what it was) that caused him to lose 20 lbs or so and miss basically the entire preseason. The Ravens staff couldn't have chosen Troy over Flacco. That said, as mediocre as Flacco has been, I'm willing to admit there's a reason Flacco's in the NFL and Troy's not.
 
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