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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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bassbuckeye07;2020517; said:
The FBI investigation was not into the kids........their stuff was uncovered in the seizure of rifes property


and to be honest to use the word horrible circumstance to discribe this situation may be a bit much...
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I'd say its 'horrible' that Ohio State lost the best thing that has happened to the program since Woody Hayes accepted the job at OSU... Not over a death from a scissor lift. Not buying players for six-figures. Not punching opposing teams' players. But over a thousand dollars in player freebies. To me, that is 'horrible'.

It may not be for you, but seeing what has happened to the program over the past nine months has been gut-wrenching and taken my favorite sports team from first to nearly irrelevant and in massive turmoil. I'd say that is 'horrible'.
 
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Mrstickball;2020523; said:
I'd say its 'horrible' that Ohio State lost the best thing that has happened to the program since Woody Hayes accepted the job at OSU... Not over a death from a scissor lift. Not buying players for six-figures. Not punching opposing teams' players. But over a thousand dollars in player freebies. To me, that is 'horrible'.

It may not be for you, but seeing what has happened to the program over the past nine months has been gut-wrenching and taken my favorite sports team from first to nearly irrelevant and in massive turmoil. I'd say that is 'horrible'.
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haha how old are you? serious question
 
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Mrstickball;2020525; said:
Young. But I guess I am using current statistics vs. what Tressel was doing. There were only two years that Tressel had this many losses, and I don't think we're going to nearly win-out like he did in 2004.
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The older you get you will have a better perspective on what is "horrible"

Its not Tressels situation and I say that as someone who has season tickets and loves...loves my alma mater

this shall pass
 
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ant80;2016557; said:
It just breaks my heart to see this thread in this section. :(

FUCK THE NCAA
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Jake;2019777; said:
Everyone needs a scapegoat. Tress just needed to speak up in a timely manner and he would still be our coach. Why he didn't is a question I hope he answers someday, because I hate that he went out this way. :(
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OH10;2019857; said:
Scapegoat?

He failed to reveal the email to the powers that be. When the powers that be found the email, they turned it over to the NCAA voluntarily.

If you're saying he's a scapegoat, you're basically saying he turned it over to the powers that be from the beginning. And then the powers that be turned it over voluntarily 8 months later. Which, of course, makes absolutely no sense.

Great coach. Great man. But he's no scapegoat.
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I don't know how in the world you concluded I was saying Tressel was a scapegoat from the above conversation but allow me to spell it out for you.

I was saying ant80 was using the NCAA as a scapegoat for Tressel no longer being our coach. I thought that would be apparent from my second sentence.

Tressel's failure to act on the information he received in April 2010 led to his departure. I've stated that opinion several times on this board, and some haven't liked it, but I guess you never saw it.
 
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You would be dead wrong. It was being looked into at the beginning as all drug raid evidences were investigated; the players were subsequently cleared after no direct link of them to the trafficking were found. That is the main reason uneducated people, like the media, can not get their heads to understand the magnitude of the investigation. As such, they do not understand why Tressel fear for the players lives if their names are revealed.

Would you go tell the NCAA the names of the players and risk their lives with the drug dealers? If JT did that, and it would certainly becomes big news, then the drug dealers would think that the players "snitched" on them since it broke out from OSU to the NCAA. Would you want to be the father who caused his son(s) to be in this type of fear/danger of drug dealers retaliation?



bassbuckeye07;2020517; said:
The FBI investigation was not into the kids........their stuff was uncovered in the seizure of rifes property


and to be honest to use the word horrible circumstance to discribe this situation may be a bit much...
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Buckeye1;2020906; said:
You would be dead wrong. It was being looked into at the beginning as all drug raid evidences were investigated; the players were subsequently cleared after no direct link of them to the trafficking were found. That is the main reason uneducated people, like the media, can not get their heads to understand the magnitude of the investigation. As such, they do not understand why Tressel fear for the players lives if their names are revealed.

Would you go tell the NCAA the names of the players and risk their lives with the drug dealers? If JT did that, and it would certainly becomes big news, then the drug dealers would think that the players "snitched" on them since it broke out from OSU to the NCAA. Would you want to be the father who caused his son(s) to be in this type of fear/danger of drug dealers retaliation?
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Interesting perspective that may or may not be popular outside the state of Ohio. I've drawn a similar conclusion and I don't give a flying fuck who likes it.
 
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Well I read Gator's post that ended with a comment about "Occam's razor not being kind to Tress" (before it was deleted). There are plausible explanations that can not be ignored, even the most obvious can be replaced with ones that one must consider.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Put another way, any new, and even more complex theory can still possibly be true. For example: If an individual makes supernatural claims that Leprechauns were responsible for breaking a vase, the simpler explanation would be that he is mistaken, but ongoing ad-hoc justifications (e.g."And, that's not me on film, they tampered with that too") successfully prevent outright falsification. This endless supply of elaborate competing explanations cannot be ruled out ? but by using Occam's Razor
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Possible explanations can get needlessly complex. It is coherent, for instance, to add the involvement of Leprechauns to any explanation, but Occam's razor would prevent such additions, unless they were necessary.
 
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Buckeye1;2020906; said:
You would be dead wrong. It was being looked into at the beginning as all drug raid evidences were investigated; the players were subsequently cleared after no direct link of them to the trafficking were found. That is the main reason uneducated people, like the media, can not get their heads to understand the magnitude of the investigation. As such, they do not understand why Tressel fear for the players lives if their names are revealed.
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The FBI ordeal is not over yet. Do not be surprised if Tressel eventually is shown to have complied with an FBI gag order.
 
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