Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

[Gatorubet]

Honestly, I thought that was...at least a well thought out article. You can't really fault the guy for bringing up the last two NC games. I mean, I don't agree, but the reasoning behind it at the very least seems reasonable.

I think it's more the USC game after the rep of the last two NCs.

The rematch takes on huge importance. You get drilled by the Trojans this year, almost nobody is going to listen to your claims of being an elite program. Not saying they are right, but you'd better believe that the incremental negative rep of the four big games lost - and ESPN spin - will be truly brutal. More brutal than it has been even.

 

[brodybuck21]

Oh, I agree without a doubt. I'm just saying as far as most articles about Tress go these days, that one was far more positive than most. Also, while you and I think it's bullshit, at least he doesn't seem crazy in his reasons...at least to me. Don't agree, but can see where he's coming from. That's better than JT gets treated by most media these days.

Good post and I agree.

Either way eff _ichigan

 

[brodybuck21]

I think it's more the USC game after the rep of the last two NCs.

The rematch takes on huge importance. You get drilled by the Trojans this year, almost nobody is going to listen to your claims of being an elite program. Not saying they are right, but you'd better believe that the incremental negative rep of the four big games lost - and ESPN spin - will be truly brutal. More brutal than it has been even.

I think OSU/Tress will get blasted in the media even if we lose a close one. Thats a game we HAVE to win in my book.

 

[Gatorubet]

And don't even mention the hypocricy of the Chokelahoma stats. You guys are being double standard screwed on that.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I think it's more the USC game after the rep of the last two NCs.

The rematch takes on huge importance. You get drilled by the Trojans this year, almost nobody is going to listen to your claims of being an elite program. Not saying they are right, but you'd better believe that the incremental negative rep of the four big games lost - and ESPN spin - will be truly brutal. More brutal than it has been even.

The funny thing is, growing up watching Cooper coached teams choke away the last two games of every damn season, ESPN always maintained that Coop was "one of the best". Now JT loses a few and they want to tell me that he's not one of the best, and that tOSU isn't elite. Damn I'm glad I don't watch that horse shit anymore.

 

[TheIronColonel]

I think it's more the USC game after the rep of the last two NCs.

The rematch takes on huge importance. You get drilled by the Trojans this year, almost nobody is going to listen to your claims of being an elite program. Not saying they are right, but you'd better believe that the incremental negative rep of the four big games lost - and ESPN spin - will be truly brutal. More brutal than it has been even.

I think that's pretty much the long and short of it. Whether it's fair or not is irrelevant, but the fact of the matter is that when you lose games that are hyped and nationally televised (and often games against which there are no competing game for TV time) by large margins, you get pegged. Teams don't get smacked for losses that are regional or conference foes because, frankly, they don't get much air time. USC and Florida got relative passes for their losses the past two years because they showed up when most of the country was watching.

That being said, it's ridiculous to put that all on Tressel. Yes, he bears some responsibility, but it's pretty clear that he has done a good job of preparing the team on a week to week basis (unlike some coaches - RR and fatty, to be specific).

 

[brodybuck21]

And don't even mention the hypocricy of the Chokelahoma stats. You guys are being double standard screwed on that.

this aggression will not stand....man

 

[calibuck]

Let's face it. Loses in both NC games were not good, even though there was one 'we're not supposed to be there'. Fact is, the Buckeyes (we) got smashed in both. And THEN the Buckeyes (we) got 'clown-stomped' by USC. The media senses a trend here.......Tress cannot win the big one (at least lately). Michigan (after the close barn-burner at #1 vs #2), doesn't matter much lately, and we also lost to Penn St......

Like Billy Joel says, "You've got to learn to lose OK", and the Buckeyes (we) did not. Don't blame the media, etc. as the Buckeyes are not the favorite in these horse races. Anyone remember that Miami was a heavy favorite before the Buckeyes (we) upset 'em? So there's another part of the trend. Yeah, the Buckeyes gotta beat USC at the 'Shoe. Also recall the first Texas game, where the Buckeyes shoulda won, but did not. Then we came back and handily beat them. No clown-stomp, but it was a solid victory. I'm surprised that OSU didn't get more credit for the last drive loss to Texas, but by then the well had been poisoned........

Each year is a new year, and Tress & Co has to rebuild anew. Better adaptation by both the O and the D to the other team, and keep the Buckeyes away from the press clippings (that say how good they are).

:gobucks3::gobucks4:

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I'm surprised that OSU didn't get more credit for the last drive loss to Texas, but by then the well had been poisoned........

Had we won, the media would've just continued with the pre-scripted "Texas was demotivated by being left out of the NC game" shit. It's unfortunately gotten to the point were we just can't win with the media. Even if we "clown-stomp" USC, it'll be only because USC lost Marc "Dirty" Sanchez and nine starters on defense to the NFL...

 

[Gatorubet]

It's unfortunately gotten to the point were we just can't win with the media. Even if we "clown-stomp" USC, it'll be only because USC lost Marc "Dirty" Sanchez and nine starters on defense to the NFL...

I had a big post that I just deleted, because upon further reflection you are right.

 

[GomerBucks]

Have you ever thought about the fact that when the media bashes OSU, they know that they are stirring the pot for the biggest alumni base in the country? The media will take thier shots at us and get these boards up in a frenzy. When Ohio State football is no longer THE most televised team in the country, that is when the media truly believes that we aren't elite anymore.

It is the job of those analysts to stir the pot and they get the biggest bang for thier buck when the attack is to bash Ohio State. Even when we beat Miami, and went undefeated, the media still basically took sideways shots at OSU.

While I understand we have lost some big time games in a big time way, ALL of them have been to other elite teams in BCS games or to teams that would be playing in BCS games at the end of the season. INCLUDING Illinois in 07. The teams we have lost to have all been top tier teams when we lost to them.

 

[Buckskin86]

TRESSEL HEADING OUT

Ohio State Head Coach Jim Tressel is heading to the Middle East in about a week to take part in the Coaches Tour to entertain and visit with military troops serving overseas. The tour will launch from McConnel Air Force Base in Wichita, Kan., and take Tressel, Mack Brown, Troy Calhoun, Jim Grobe, Rick Neuheisel, Houston Nutt and Tommy Tuberville through Germany, Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, Djibouti and Spain.

Sunday Special: Reichenbach made his mark as player and coach - Canton, OH - CantonRep.com

 

[EidoloN]

Coach is actually stopping here May 28th as well, he's scheduled for an appearance on the base, I will definately get his book "The Winners Manual" signed and get some pics up here as well....I'm looking forward to meeting him personally and giving him my thanks for him making rounds to fellow troops! These coaches doing this have my utmost respect, and appreciation.

 

[Buckskin86]

Unlike some, Tressel thinks before speaking
By Sean McClelland
Staff Writer
Thursday, May 21, 2009

Say what you will about Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel. Say that he doesn?t win the big game enough. Or that he?s too loyal to longtime assistants.

At least he doesn?t embarrass the university when he speaks. At least he doesn?t accuse rivals of recruiting violations that turn out to be false, as new Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin did to Florida counterpart Urban Meyer.

And he doesn?t, as Meyer did recently, threaten to shun former players who are now broadcasters unless everything they say is positive.

Unlike some, Tressel thinks before speaking

 

[Gatorubet]

Unlike some, Tressel thinks before speaking

Unlike some, the extent of the ass wipe journalist from Dayton, Ohio's knowledge surrounding the Matthews situation is likely what he knows about it from his reading ESpin.

There is much, much more to the story. It is more about Matthews' attacks on Meyer since he came to UF and the Ole Ball Coach was not re-hired. It is about Bull Gators reporting Shane's attacks on the program for years. What were individual "Boy - that was odd for Shane to say that" stories were traded around, and it became clear that he had an agenda. It is about Matthews going so far as to discourage recruits from selecting UF, as Matthews discredits the spread, even after two BCSNCs.

Meyer most pointedly was calling him out. And a hell of a lot of us support him on it. There is a line between offering honest opinions about the team and its offense on a radio show (which is perfectly acceptable), and in actively trying to hurt your program's recruiting and your current coach, despite being an ex-player and an alumnus. It is universally recognized at Florida that Meyer has done more to reach out to former Gators players and have them back and included in our program than Spurrier, who was not as focused on that as much as his putting game.

If Meyer was being pissy only because he lost to Ole Piss, that would be petty. But Meyer demands loyalty to the program. What he insists on from former players isn't "praise everything I do", but it is sure not interfering with Gator recruiting and back stabbing the head coach to the Bull Gators.

As to Meyer not having the right to speak of loyalty since he left the traditional football powers of Bolling Green and Utah to come to Florida - well - that is why you write for the Dayton news douche nozzle.

Tress is a well spoken man who represents his program very well. But if he had a well known former player bad mouthing his program, I doubt he'd put up with it either.