Jersey / Uniform Discussion (OSU)

[MaliBuckeye]

If changes in uniform design could be shown to enhance recruiting, I'd say fuck tradition; do whatever the kids like. I'm not sure that such a demonstration is really possible, though.

It was either Spielman or Holtz who said that one of the issues with Terrelle Pryor was that the coaching staff worked to accommodate him rather than saying "we're going to make you like us". Or something like that- I was heavily medicated.

I think that, in terms of tradition, it's perfectly OK to say "This is who we are. If you don't want to be a part of that, blessings on your decision."

In other words... I'm not a fan of the "do whatever the kids like" argument, so I agree with Max.

 

[ScarletnGray 33]

Stupiest thing I've read in a long time...

If you don't think Oregon's partnership with Nike/Phil Knight and all of their jersey combinations are a HUGE selling point during recruiting, then you are ignorant beyond belief. It's not 1960 anymore.

 

[Saw31]

There's a reason we don't let kids "run things". Kids are stoopid O_o

 

[ScarletnGray 33]

If you aren't kidding that may be the dumbest thing I've read in the past 12 months.

If you are kidding you forgot to talk about Oregon's padded socks.

That is widely considered as one of the main reasons Oregon became relevant. Wake up, guys. Hey look, a four second Google search and I've already found someone who agrees. It's from espin, but hey...

"The performance wear we get, from a fashion standpoint, and the facilities and infrastructure, they fit with the innovative theme of who we are," said Oregon athletic director Rob Mullens, who just arrived at the school during the summer. "Very forward-thinking. It is kind of a hip brand."

Mullens said that while wearing DayGlo green Nike sneakers and a sweatshirt with DayGlo trim. His football players were walking around in sharp hoodies with their numbers on them in the same futuristic font the Ducks use for their jerseys.

Auburn's players looked good in their Under Armour sweats. Oregon's players looked better in their Nike gear.

And yes, that four-letter word is vital to understanding how the Ducks went from football pushover to powerhouse. The benefits of Nike founder Phil Knight bestowing most-favored-program status on his alma mater are impossible to understate.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls10/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6003943

 

[Saw31]

If you don't think Oregon's partnership with Nike/Phil Knight and all of their jersey combinations are a HUGE selling point during recruiting, then you are ignorant beyond belief. It's not 1960 anymore.

I was born well after 1960. I have zero memory of 1960. I just want to go back to 2008 before all this Nike bullshit. And any kid who is making a life decision as important as where they will attend college on what uniform they get to wear, has my blessing to go to Oregon...

 

[Pheasant]

If you don't think Oregon's partnership with Nike/Phil Knight and all of their jersey combinations are a HUGE selling point during recruiting, then you are ignorant beyond belief. It's not 1960 anymore.

Saying Oregon's improvement is because of the jerseys was stupid. Trying to alter your argument doesn't change how dumb it was in the first place.

THIS didn't have anything to do with it...it was just the jerseys, right? Not where they hang them:

but what color they are?

 

[Muck]

Hey look, a four second Google search and I've already found someone who agrees.

In less time than that you could find someone who agrees that the US has never landed on the moon, world leaders are in fact alien lizard hybrids & the government has been suppressing a car that runs on water for the pat 40 years.

There's a reason we don't let kids "run things". Kids are stoopid O_o

Ahh I see Saw already beat me to it.

 

[Pheasant]

That is widely considered as one of the main reasons Oregon became relevant. Wake up, guys. Hey look, a four second Google search and I've already found someone who agrees. It's from espin, but hey...



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls10/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6003943

 

[3074326]

I just can't wait for the jerseys to come out and not be black. Schadenfraude.

Racist

 

[muffler dragon]

If you don't think Oregon's partnership with Nike/Phil Knight and all of their jersey combinations are a HUGE selling point during recruiting, then you are ignorant beyond belief. It's not 1960 anymore.

I live in Oregon. As a matter of fact, I live one hour north of Eugene. The uniforms at Oregon are NOT as big a factor as you might like to think. The main promotions of Duck football would be: 1) Kelly has an exciting product on the field (particularly on O), 2) the program is tremendously funded and you can see that in the facilities and so forth, 3) the chance of being on television is rather good at present, 4) other factors which may or may not be apparel related. I have never once read an article out here where a prospective recruit said that the uniform combinations were a HUGE nor even a significant point in their choice to come to Oregon. Feel free to substantiate your argument with something besides your vacuous opinion.

 

[jlb1705]

That is widely considered as one of the main reasons Oregon became relevant. Wake up, guys. Hey look, a four second Google search and I've already found someone who agrees. It's from espin, but hey...



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls10/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6003943

Of course he's going to say that shit. He's on the payroll!

If I indirectly drew my paycheck from Phil Knight I'd be scared shitless to say anything that wasn't glowingly positive about the uniforms.

 

[MaliBuckeye]

If you don't think Oregon's partnership with Nike/Phil Knight and all of their jersey combinations are a HUGE selling point during recruiting, then you are ignorant beyond belief. It's not 1960 anymore.

Can't link to it because a) I'm at work and b) it's Brooks, but SBB had an interesting article about two weeks ago regarding a program similar to the Ginn Academy on the East Coast that was being "assisted" by Nike in the form of equipment etc. Oh, and there are a number of athletes from that program who are now at Nike schools.... Cal and Oregon were mentioned prominently.

I agree with S&G- if you don't think shoes and such have an influence on the world of college sports, I'd like to introduce you to AAU basketball and Sonny Vaccaro.

The uniforms are a part of that, in my IMHO.

 

[muffler dragon]

I agree with S&G- if you don't think shoes and such have an influence on the world of college sports, I'd like to introduce you to AAU basketball and Sonny Vaccaro.

The uniforms are a part of that, in my IMHO.

I don't think anyone's saying uniforms aren't a "part". The debate is on "HUGE"! HUGE I TELL YOU!

The uniforms at Oregon wouldn't mean shit if the product on the field blew goats.

 

[Pheasant]

Can't link to it because a) I'm at work and b) it's Brooks, but SBB had an interesting article about two weeks ago regarding a program similar to the Ginn Academy on the East Coast that was being "assisted" by Nike in the form of equipment etc. Oh, and there are a number of athletes from that program who are now at Nike schools.... Cal and Oregon were mentioned prominently.

I agree with S&G- if you don't think shoes and such have an influence on the world of college sports, I'd like to introduce you to AAU basketball and Sonny Vaccaro.

The uniforms are a part of that, in my IMHO.

This was his original argument:

New style jerseys that are flashy looking are appealing to teenagers, and are very integral in recruiting. How do you think Oregon came from nothing into relevance and then into top contender status? Flashy jerseys. The traditionalists don't like them and don't necessarily "get" today's style, but who cares? They sell to 16-18 year old kids and make them want to play football in them, which is all that matters.

You agree with that?

 

[ScarletnGray 33]

I live in Oregon. As a matter of fact, I live one hour north of Eugene. The uniforms at Oregon are NOT as big a factor as you might like to think. The main promotions of Duck football would be: 1) Kelly has an exciting product on the field (particularly on O), 2) the program is tremendously funded and you can see that in the facilities and so forth, 3) the chance of being on television is rather good at present, 4) other factors which may or may not be apparel related. I have never once read an article out here where a prospective recruit said that the uniform combinations were a HUGE nor even a significant point in their choice to come to Oregon. Feel free to substantiate your argument with something besides your vacuous opinion.

"If anybody pays a visit to Oregon and sees the facilities and the uniforms and everything," said star running back LaMichael James, "as a 17-year-old or 18-year-old kid, who wouldn't want to go to Oregon?"

From the link I posted previously. It's not a direct cause/effect relationship, but the jerseys definitely correlate to recruiting success. Obviously the facilities matter, but those are directly related to Phil Knight, just like the jerseys/gear.