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Jameis Winston (QB Browns)

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Muck said:
The jury pool:
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(taken outside the Tallahassee Courthouse)
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And all this time I thought that Gators fans were the jorts wearers . . .
 
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ESPN.com

The decision by Florida prosecutors to not press sexual assault charges against Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston has financial ramifications for Winston and his school.

State Attorney Willie Meggs said Thursday that no charges would be filed against Winston, 19, who was accused of raping a female student in December 2012. Meggs said there was not enough evidence for anyone to be charged.
Clearing this legal hurdle makes Winston a nearly shoe-in to win the Heisman Trophy award as long as he performs well in this weekend's ACC Championship game. That's an automatic future revenue stream for Winston.

....Also, with Winston available to play, the potential increases for the Seminoles to win the national championship. That, too, can be extremely valuable. Schools that have won titles have seen licensing revenue jump by $1 million to $2 million.

An increase in booster money varies widely depending on the program, but there's no debate that Florida State's athletic department needs the money. In recent years, it has had a problem making budget and Seminole Boosters, in the last reported year, raised only $31.7 million, down from $42.8 million five years ago, according to tax records.
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Well isn't that jsut fucking peachy.
 
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It never crossed my mind that him winning the Heisman would actually be a financial benefit. I just thought they got a trophy. Never really occured to me that he would be boosted with cash money.

So not only does him getting off ("so to speak") in this case allow him and his team to play for championships, it also increases revenue that his school is in desperate need of?

And FSU wants people to buy that they didn't stronghold Meggs into a certain decision that would help the school and Winston? Total fucking BS.
 
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Drubuck said:
If the prosecution can't get enough for a trial then it's obvious what the verdict is whether he is or not.
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I wouldn't say that. I just read through the documents and things don't seem so clear. What seems to be missing from the prosecution's case is an explanation for her reported "incoherent" state during the incident. Tox screen came back negative for drugs and her blood alcohol was not high enough to indicate severe intoxication. Conveniently for him, his roommate/teammate were not interviewed until last month and gave remarkably consistent statements that she was coherent and the aggressor. On the other hand, her phone records indicate that she immediately called 2 different friends right when she got back to her dorm and what she told one of the friends (something about being hit on the head and blacking out) prompted that friend to call her parents - who called her at 3AM. After that, she contacted the campus police. What is missing in the reports are any kind of lengthy statements by her friends. I think a case would more or less hinge on her believability as a witness against him. My guess is he wouldn't take the stand. It's a classic he said, she said but the tox report seems to weigh in his favor. Not sure what to make of the lack of statements from her friends.
 
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In a he said/she said there has to be something more to go on than she said - especially when what she said has multiple inconsistencies. I thought there would be some kind of corroboration coming for her side, but the new info released today favored Winston. Prosecutors won't always charge, even if they believe the alleged victim. They have to weigh what can be proved vs. what the defense will do with the facts of the investigation. Low chances of conviction = no charges in most cases.

Theory that is surely wrong: she hooks up with Jameis, boyfriend finds out, and "it was forced" is way out with BF. It happens.

Hope this wasn't a huge injustice. We'll probably never know.
 
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CookyPuss said:
I wouldn't say that. I just read through the documents and things don't seem so clear. What seems to be missing from the prosecution's case is an explanation for her reported "incoherent" state during the incident. Tox screen came back negative for drugs and her blood alcohol was not high enough to indicate severe intoxication. Conveniently for him, his roommate/teammate were not interviewed until last month and gave remarkably consistent statements that she was coherent and the aggressor. On the other hand, her phone records indicate that she immediately called 2 different friends right when she got back to her dorm and what she told one of the friends (something about being hit on the head and blacking out) prompted that friend to call her parents - who called her at 3AM. After that, she contacted the campus police. What is missing in the reports are any kind of lengthy statements by her friends. I think a case would more or less hinge on her believability as a witness against him. My guess is he wouldn't take the stand. It's a classic he said, she said but the tox report seems to weigh in his favor. Not sure what to make of the lack of statements from her friends.
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Meggs mentioned the possibility of a drug and the toxicology reports a couple of times, which seemed odd. What I read into that is that he suspects that GHB might have been involved, which can be used as a date-rape drug and frequently results in memory difficulties not explained by the accuser's blood alcohol level, which he said could be "extrapolated" to have been around .10 at the time of the incident. The GHB aspect is obviously based on a fair amount of speculation on my part.
 
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