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Jameis Winston (QB Browns)

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MaxBuck said:
I've said before that the misguided commentary from women's groups that "it's never too late to say no" will continue to lead to more cases of "consensual" sex becoming non-consensual sometime shortly before or after penetration, and that young women are being given stupid advice. "Consent" is something very, very important, and girls need to be aware that what they do and say early in the evening may have undesired ramifications nearer midnight. Unfortunately, too many young women lead young men on until a point is reached when reasoning has left the room and all that's left is hormones and desire.

Too many young women have been given the idea that the young male human is equipped with a sexual on-off switch that can be flipped with immediate impact. But we aren't made that way, and it seems that girls no longer are being taught this unfortunate fact.

When sex happens in privacy and the parties differ on whether it was consensual, reasonable doubt (for better or worse) usually dictates that the defendant must be found not guilty. Given this fact, unfortunately, I'm not sure the rape statistics cited by RAINN can reasonably be expected to change (at least as it relates to "rape" charged when the two parties know one another).

Caveat: I'm not saying squat about how (or whether) any of this relates to the Winston situation, since I simply don't know.
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Dude, this doesn't pertain to any situation in which a guy has been falsely accused of rape, and I know that it does happen, I actually know someone that it happened to, and he was vindicated by the fact that he honestly did not have sex with the girl. It was an honest to goodness case of her being too drunk to remember where she was and who she was with. I know he didn't rape her, because he was with me eating quesadillas and playing CoD, in my apartment when the alleged act took place. It's more to do with what i know about sexual assault, because I also know a couple of girls that are rape victims too. One that was raped by a guy she had known since she was 13, and knew pretty well, and another that was raped by a guy she never met. In as much as I know about both those cases, it appears the thought of the act being inappropriate never crossed the perpetrators mind, or if it did, it wasn't very important. And, in addition, speaking from personal experience, the young human male can choose to make a decision on what is appropriate or not, because I have personally been in that position. There is a very high probability that I have consumed as much, if not a great deal more psychoactive and psychotropic and generally inebriating chemicals than anyone else would be inclined to admit to on a public message board. In that lifestyle, I was presented with many, many opportunities to take advantage of young women in many ways that anyone with a conscience would find abhorrent. Yet, even in my highly compromised state of mental cognizance, I still was aware of what constituted forcible sexual assault and rape, and was able to walk away from some highly sexually charged situations that were exceedingly bad ideas. So, for me, the idea that that there is any "confusion" about rape, is a lie and a cop out. I've never known anyone that was convicted of rape that wasn't guilty as fuck. Now, until all of the facts come out on this particular case, I don't think it's fair to convict him, even in the court of public opinion, but, man, even you have at least acknowledge, that based on the way this shit appears to have been handled that the girl really does look like the victim here.
 
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MaxBuck said:
And for any young women reading this, if you think the young guy you're with can stop his sexual pursuit of you immediately when you say "no," after you've given him lots of signals saying "yes," you're most probably wrong. (The older we men get, the better we usually get at control.) If you don't like that, I'm sorry, but wishing otherwise won't change anything.
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TL;DR - It's her fault for leading him on and every man is moments away from being a rapist.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Say that [Mark May] again and I WILL RAPE YOU!
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That would be my fault anyway. You know, because of the implication.

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HaideeRDLS said:
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Number 9 is just ridiculous. How in the hell am I expected to form a loving relationship with this "honesty" shit? You should just assume I intend to rape you. I have a penis, after all, and I can't control the fuckin thing. It's not ME, babe.. I'm a good guy. But.. you know... it just can't be stopped sometimes. It's a real burden. But... I try ... It's easier now that I'm a little older, though, truth be told.
 
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Max, in this latest installment of the other side, you repeatedly confuse difficulty with inability to stop.

It is true that many men will not want to stop and women should be aware of that. In no way does that change the responsibility of the man to stop nor approach the absurd notion that he cannot.

Some will not stop but that is a choice, even if it is the easier, natural one. Life is full of such moments.
 
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