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Jameis Winston (QB Browns)

I have no doubt there are men who have been accused of rape in situations where it was consensual. But, that said, I have a real hard time understanding what possible motivation a woman would have for having consensual sex and then immediately going to the police. I don't know Winston. I don't know the woman at issue. I certainly wasn't there. But - that said, I am inclined to believe the woman in this case. And, it has NOTHING to do with whether or not FSU makes the BCS Championship game or if Winston wins the Heisman. There's too much smoke around this story for me not to assume a fire. And, again, I just cannot comprehend any motivation for the woman to go to the cops if it were truly consensual.

I'm not assuming Winston is guilty. But, I am forming my opinion each day.

crazy people do crazy things, undoubtedly. but, this girl did exactly what you're supposed to do when raped, and the family is still pushing this matter almost a year later, to the point that the family and their attorney are accusing an entire police department of corruption and a cover up. certainly not the actions of someone with "buyer's remorse".
 
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Rape is a terrible thing.

But false accusations are also a terrible thing.

If Winston is proven guilty, then I will be the first one to say throw the book at him, and twice as hard because he is "famous".

Until then, he is innocent. Like it or not, that's how our legal system works. Maybe some of you will be glad for that some day.
 
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Rape is a terrible thing.

But false accusations are also a terrible thing.

If Winston is proven guilty, then I will be the first one to say throw the book at him, and twice as hard because he is "famous".

Until then, he is innocent. Like it or not, that's how our legal system works. Maybe some of you will be glad for that some day.
I don't have the power to render him guilty. I DO, however, have the power to render an opinion on the matter based upon the information I have. And.. the power to talk about it. So?
 
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... I have a real hard time understanding what possible motivation a woman would have for having consensual sex and then immediately going to the police.
I've said before that the misguided commentary from women's groups that "it's never too late to say no" will continue to lead to more cases of "consensual" sex becoming non-consensual sometime shortly before or after penetration, and that young women are being given stupid advice. "Consent" is something very, very important, and girls need to be aware that what they do and say early in the evening may have undesired ramifications nearer midnight. Unfortunately, too many young women lead young men on until a point is reached when reasoning has left the room and all that's left is hormones and desire.

Too many young women have been given the idea that the young male human is equipped with a sexual on-off switch that can be flipped with immediate impact. But we aren't made that way, and it seems that girls no longer are being taught this unfortunate fact.

When sex happens in privacy and the parties differ on whether it was consensual, reasonable doubt (for better or worse) usually dictates that the defendant must be found not guilty. Given this fact, unfortunately, I'm not sure the rape statistics cited by RAINN can reasonably be expected to change (at least as it relates to "rape" charged when the two parties know one another).

Caveat: I'm not saying squat about how (or whether) any of this relates to the Winston situation, since I simply don't know.
 
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crazy people do crazy things, undoubtedly. but, this girl did exactly what you're supposed to do when raped, and the family is still pushing this matter almost a year later, to the point that the family and their attorney are accusing an entire police department of corruption and a cover up. certainly not the actions of someone with "buyer's remorse".

This....something is definitely fishy here
 
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I've said before that the misguided commentary from women's groups that "it's never too late to say no" will continue to lead to more cases of "consensual" sex becoming non-consensual sometime shortly before or after penetration, and that young women are being given stupid advice. "Consent" is something very, very important, and girls need to be aware that what they do and say early in the evening may have undesired ramifications nearer midnight. Unfortunately, too many young women lead young men on until a point is reached when reasoning has left the room and all that's left is hormones and desire.
So, I am left to assume they're all dirty little whores? Dude.. has NOT been my experience.

Too many young women have been given the idea that the young male human is equipped with a sexual on-off switch that can be flipped with immediate impact. But we aren't made that way, and it seems that girls no longer are being taught this unfortunate fact.
Sorry, baby.. I'm unable to control myself. You're just gonna have to deal with it. I mean... I've got the penis, after all. ROAR

Incidentally, ALSO not been my experience.

When sex happens in privacy and the parties differ on whether it was consensual, reasonable doubt (for better or worse) usually dictates that the defendant must be found not guilty. Given this fact, unfortunately, I'm not sure the rape statistics cited by RAINN can reasonably be expected to change (at least as it relates to "rape" charged when the two parties know one another).

Caveat: I'm not saying squat about how (or whether) any of this relates to the Winston situation, since I simply don't know.
But, you're good convicting rapes that occur out in the public. So, at least we're agreed there.
 
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Rape is a terrible thing.

But false accusations are also a terrible thing.

If Winston is proven guilty, then I will be the first one to say throw the book at him, and twice as hard because he is "famous".

Until then, he is innocent. Like it or not, that's how our legal system works. Maybe some of you will be glad for that some day.

I agree with you. I was not trying to say that this woman is telling the truth and that Jameis is a predator. None of us here know what is really going on with the investigation and we certainly don't now what happened almost a year ago.

Just like rape has the potential to ruin lives, so does being falsely accused. It is my hope that if there was a crime committed, be it rape OR making a false report, justice will be served. It sickens me to know that a woman would lie about something as painful and agonizing as a sexual assault for revenge, pity, attention? I don't know. What I do know is that false reports have cast a nasty shadow of doubt over many women who were truly victimized.

Thanks for your kind words. It was liberating to talk about my experience.
 
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I've said before that the misguided commentary from women's groups that "it's never too late to say no" will continue to lead to more cases of "consensual" sex becoming non-consensual sometime shortly before or after penetration, and that young women are being given stupid advice. "Consent" is something very, very important, and girls need to be aware that what they do and say early in the evening may have undesired ramifications nearer midnight. Unfortunately, too many young women lead young men on until a point is reached when reasoning has left the room and all that's left is hormones and desire.

Too many young women have been given the idea that the young male human is equipped with a sexual on-off switch that can be flipped with immediate impact. But we aren't made that way, and it seems that girls no longer are being taught this unfortunate fact.

When sex happens in privacy and the parties differ on whether it was consensual, reasonable doubt (for better or worse) usually dictates that the defendant must be found not guilty. Given this fact, unfortunately, I'm not sure the rape statistics cited by RAINN can reasonably be expected to change (at least as it relates to "rape" charged when the two parties know one another).

Caveat: I'm not saying squat about how (or whether) any of this relates to the Winston situation, since I simply don't know.

I am very troubled by your line of thinking.
 
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