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Jameis Winston (QB Browns)

William Meggs, state attorney for the 2nd Judicial Circuit in Tallahassee, confirmed his office didn't receive an incident report from the Tallahassee Police Department until earlier Wednesday. Meggs, who was traveling, said he has only had the report read to him by an associate over the phone.

"We learned about the police report for the first time today," Meggs said. "I've had it read to me. I think the police department would have to tell you why I didn't learn about it for the first time until today."
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Here is one source: http://espn.go.com/college-football...minoles-investigated-2012-sexual-assault-case

William Meggs, state attorney for the Second Judicial Circuit in Tallahassee, confirmed his office didn't receive an incident report from the Tallahassee Police Department until earlier Wednesday. Meggs, who was traveling, said he only has had the report read to him by an associate over the phone.

"We learned about the police report for the first time today," Meggs said. "I've had it read to me. I think the police department would have to tell you why I didn't learn about it for the first time until today."
 
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The Dispatch summary this morning cited that the perp was estimated to be 5-9, 240.

Winston is 6-4, 215.

Hard to confuse the two.

I think Winston is not regarded as the likely perp. Possibly a witness. Would hate to see his name tarnished if this is the case.
 
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The Dispatch summary this morning cited that the perp was estimated to be 5-9, 240.

Winston is 6-4, 215.

Hard to confuse the two.

I think Winston is not regarded as the likely perp. Possibly a witness. Would hate to see his name tarnished if this is the case.
http://deadspin.com/someone-is-being-investigated-for-alleged-sexual-batter-1464033718

The report describes the suspect as having a muscular build, with a weight of 240 pounds and a height between 5'9" and 5'11." Winston is listed at 6'4," but police reports are notoriously inexact with these sorts of things.

The kid is innocent until proven guilty and he very well might be just a witness. Gotta let the process play out
 
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http://deadspin.com/someone-is-being-investigated-for-alleged-sexual-batter-1464033718



The kid is innocent until proven guilty and he very well might be just a witness. Gotta let the process play out


Yeah, for sure. If this was one of ours, we'd be off the hook with how this is being handled. Let it play out and if guilty, deal with it then.

Interesting to note how this is being handled by the media in a couple of respects. 1) It's not us (but I can clearly symphatize with FSU folks), and 2) It's not an SEC school.

Draw your own conclusion.
 
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The Dispatch summary this morning cited that the perp was estimated to be 5-9, 240.

Winston is 6-4, 215.

Hard to confuse the two.

I think Winston is not regarded as the likely perp. Possibly a witness. Would hate to see his name tarnished if this is the case.

Yeah, I am sure the victim took out the tape measure and made sure her attacker stood on the scale before he left.
 
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Yeah, for sure. If this was one of ours, we'd be off the hook with how this is being handled. Let it play out and if guilty, deal with it then.

Interesting to note how this is being handled by the media in a couple of respects. 1) It's not us (but I can clearly symphatize with FSU folks), and 2) It's not an SEC school.

Draw your own conclusion.


Not what I'm saying.. we all know now that if this came up, the moment Urban found out, the kid is off the team until the process plays out. Something doesn't smell right here
 
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Yeah, I am sure the victim took out the tape measure and made sure her attacker stood on the scale before he left.
Most people can tell the difference between a 5-9 240-lb fireplug and a 6-4 215-lb (comparatively slender) athlete. Sorry you seem unable to do so without measuring instruments, but the rest of us aren't so limited.

It seems unlikely to me that, if Winston were indeed the suspect, the police would have spent the past 11 months without arresting him, charging him, or detaining him for detailed questioning.
 
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Most people can tell the difference between a 5-9 240-lb fireplug and a 6-4 215-lb (comparatively slender) athlete. Sorry you seem unable to do so without measuring instruments, but the rest of us aren't so limited.

It seems unlikely to me that, if Winston were indeed the suspect, the police would have spent the past 11 months without arresting him, charging him, or detaining him for detailed questioning.

You sound like those bwi freaks arguing that McQuery didn't see a rape in the shower because Sandusky's penis was probably too big. Give it up. Height and weight estimations are notoriously unreliable, especially when made by someone who has just been sexually assaulted.
 
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I also am willing to let the facts come out before I draw a conclusion. But all of you that are hanging your hat on the fact that the victim may have given a height that does not match Winston's need to think about what you are saying. Look at it from what could be the victims point of view. You had something to drink. Maybe you have had to much to drink. At 1AM the most horrible thing that has happen in your young life is right now happening to you. Flash forward 3 hours to 4AM. Your upset, your tired and maybe you are still a little drunk. A police officer has just asked you "And how tall was the person that raped you?" and you give an answer. I hope all of us can see that it might be inaccurate. It could even be wildly inaccurate.

I agree we need to wait for all the facts before anyone condemns Winston. But the same should go for the victim too.
 
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