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Indians Tidbits (2010 season)

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buckeyemania11;1691115; said:
3-6! we suck as bad as the mets (also 3-6)

except the mets are spending $132,701,445 compared to our $61,203,967 :2004:
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and that $61 million will decrease when kerry wood gets traded for some stadium mustard midseason. imagine that westbrook, hafner and wood comprise about 50% of cleveland's payroll.
 
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Fear not, Indians fans...lots of bullpens suck. Just watching Haren work like hell to get a 3-1 lead in the 7th, then Heilman comes in and first batter...BAM! Home Run, tied 3-3. So then the Dodgers go to their pen in the 8th, and BAM! HR, Justin Upton. If I'm a manager, I tell my guys to work the counts the first 5 or 6 innings, even if you get no hits or strike out a lot, because once you knock the starter out on pitch count...some human propane tank with an ERA of his shoe size is coming in.
 
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Bucklion;1691156; said:
Fear not, Indians fans...lots of bullpens suck. Just watching Haren work like hell to get a 3-1 lead in the 7th, then Heilman comes in and first batter...BAM! Home Run, tied 3-3. So then the Dodgers go to their pen in the 8th, and BAM! HR, Justin Upton. If I'm a manager, I tell my guys to work the counts the first 5 or 6 innings, even if you get no hits or strike out a lot, because once you knock the starter out on pitch count...some human propane tank with an ERA of his shoe size is coming in.
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and it's not just isolated to bad teams. even some very good teams have shaky bullpens. they simply have starters and/or a closer that can mask deficiencies enough to make it a non-issue. that's why it is very cost ineffective for small market teams to invest any sort of FA money on bullpen or closers. over the course of 4 years, cleveland spent roughly $36 million on joe borowski and kerry wood. how did that work out?
 
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tsteele316;1691183; said:
and it's not just isolated to bad teams. even some very good teams have shaky bullpens. they simply have starters and/or a closer that can mask deficiencies enough to make it a non-issue. that's why it is very cost ineffective for small market teams to invest any sort of FA money on bullpen or closers. over the course of 4 years, cleveland spent roughly $36 million on joe borowski and kerry wood. how did that work out?
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FUCKING AWESOME for hitters around the AL
 
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Bob Hunter commentary: Rumblings | BuckeyeXtra

After a wild pitch from closer Chris Perez brought home the winning run Sunday against Detroit, he seemed to blame Marson.
"(Marson) got a piece of it, but it got by him," Perez said. "He's trying to stop it, but at the same time, it's happened a lot recently. That needs to change, for sure. Pitchers need that confidence to throw stuff in the dirt."
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Chris Perez (with a WHIP of 3.0 :slappy:) calling out anyone else is a fucking joke.
 
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encouraging beginnings for our 1st and 3rd round picks last year who didnt get to pitch for minor league affiliates due to not signing until right up to the deadline

Indians Prospect Insider: Minor Happenings: White, Gardner Off To Great Starts

The Indians did not get to see two of their top three draft picks play for one of their minor league affiliates last year. Instead, they had to wait until Instructional League in the fall to get their first glimpse of 2009 first round draft pick right-hander Alex White and third round pick right-hander Joe Gardner. White did not sign until the August 15th deadline so it was too late to get him built up and pitch at an affiliate, and Gardner had an oblique issue which sidelined him and prevented him from pitching for short-season Single-A Mahoning Valley. The Indians were very excited with what they showed in the fall, but the fans are now finally getting to see what all the excitement was about in the fall and why they were taken where they were in the draft.
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White made his pro debut on Saturday night and pitched a dandy and earned the win by going five shutout innings and allowing two hits, four walks, and piling up seven strikeouts. He finished the night throwing 79 pitches and pounded the bottom of the zone with his fastball-splitter mix while only mixing in a handful of sliders. He had opposing hitters guessing all night on the splitter since he did a great job of repeating his delivery with his fastball and splitter which hitters had a hard time picking up. He showed good command of all of his pitches, was well composed on the mound, and topped out at 96 MPH on the radar gun. So it was a great beginning to his professional career, and with the first one out of the way it will be interesting to see where he goes from here as he settles into a routine. He makes his second start tonight (Friday).
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Gardner was just as impressive in his pro debut last Friday as he only went four innings, but that was in large part because he used up his 75 pitch count in striking out 11 batters in those four innings. He followed that very good performance up with an even better one on Wednesday, this time getting the win and going five innings allowing one run on two hits, two walks, and piling up another seven strikeouts. In two starts he is now a combined 1-0 with a 2.00 ERA and in 9.0 innings has allowed 5 hits, 4 walks and has 18 strikeouts while holding opposing batters to a .152 batting average. The key to his success has been a steady diet of hard stuff down in the zone, primarily his heavy sinking fastball which has kept hitters from lifting anything off of him. His 93 MPH sinker, hard biting slider, solid changeup, and getting ahead in the count are the reason where in 27 possible outs he has recorded all of them via strikeout (18) or groundball (9). Not one single out has been recorded in the air in his two starts so far.
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im more interested in following prospects this year than the MLB team, we have some pretty exciting guys in the system, hopefully a chunk of them can develop and make an impact on the MLB level
 
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