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Lets hope so. There are just too many holes on this roster to realistically compete this season and C.C. is the best bargaining chip we have to improve a woeful lineup and/or bullpen. There is plenty of SP talent to fill the gap and it would be devestating to lose him with nothing to show for it this winter. Now, the Sabathia for a "hitting rental" suggested in that article is fucking assinine. One bat is not going to fix this lineup this season, and even if it did, the bullpen is still a fucking disaster. Any deal made for C.C. needs to be with an eye to the future.buckeyes_rock;1171622; said:
As for the Hafner discussion earlier, granted Wedge knows more about the situation than us, but nobody can deny that the guy is just not coming around and is obviously in physical pain. He's getting cortizone shots just to take at bats. Seems to be a connection there if you ask most anybody. It simply could not hurt anybody involved to put him on the DL to heal up, then spend some time on a rehab assignment to fine tune his swing. If he was still hitting, then yeah, maybe you let him play through it. He's not though and the shoulder seems to have sapped him of his power. Let the fucking guy get healthy, then work on his swing.
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Frustration grows as Tribe gives up win to White Sox Indians manager singles out batters and relief pitchers for latest collapse
By Sheldon Ocker
Beacon Journal sportswriter
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2008
CLEVELAND: The center of attention at Progressive Field on Wednesday was expected to be Jake Westbrook, who was making his first start since suffering a strained intercostal in mid-April.
Instead, Westbrook became little more than a secondary story in the Indians' 6-5 loss to the White Sox. Maybe that's because Westbrook did his job.
Much more attention was paid to players who did not perform as required. Those players include, but are not limited to, Rafael Betancourt, Ben Francisco and Victor Martinez. And who pointed this out? How about Eric Wedge, who is not prone to naming names.
''Betancourt kept throwing the ball over the plate,'' the Indians' manager said. ''Until he starts throwing inside and trusting his stuff, they're going to lean out there and hit it. I have told him numerous times.''
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Frustration grows as Tribe gives up win to White Sox Indians manager singles out batters and relief pitchers for latest collapse
By Sheldon Ocker
Beacon Journal sportswriter
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2008
CLEVELAND: The center of attention at Progressive Field on Wednesday was expected to be Jake Westbrook, who was making his first start since suffering a strained intercostal in mid-April.
Instead, Westbrook became little more than a secondary story in the Indians' 6-5 loss to the White Sox. Maybe that's because Westbrook did his job.
Much more attention was paid to players who did not perform as required. Those players include, but are not limited to, Rafael Betancourt, Ben Francisco and Victor Martinez. And who pointed this out? How about Eric Wedge, who is not prone to naming names.
''Betancourt kept throwing the ball over the plate,'' the Indians' manager said. ''Until he starts throwing inside and trusting his stuff, they're going to lean out there and hit it. I have told him numerous times.''
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Wedge doesn't want to hear any excuses Bullpen to blame for 11 of 29 losses
By Patrick McManamon
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2008
CLEVELAND: There's a lot of season left ? but the Indians seem to realize that they had better get going pretty soon.
There was some definite fraying at the edges Wednesday after a 6-5 loss to the Chicago White Sox, a game when the hitters did not come through when needed and when the bullpen could not hold a lead.
With a 24-29 record, the Indians, and especially manager Eric Wedge, spoke like they know that before long there won't be enough of a season left to make up the deficit they're building.
Wedge showed rare public anger after the loss, and he expressed some serious frustration with reliever Rafael Betancourt, whose viewpoint of things did not seem to mesh at all with Wedge's.
Betancourt was nearly unhittable a year ago, but this year he has struggled with an ERA near six.
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Wedge doesn't want to hear any excuses Bullpen to blame for 11 of 29 losses
By Patrick McManamon
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2008
CLEVELAND: There's a lot of season left ? but the Indians seem to realize that they had better get going pretty soon.
There was some definite fraying at the edges Wednesday after a 6-5 loss to the Chicago White Sox, a game when the hitters did not come through when needed and when the bullpen could not hold a lead.
With a 24-29 record, the Indians, and especially manager Eric Wedge, spoke like they know that before long there won't be enough of a season left to make up the deficit they're building.
Wedge showed rare public anger after the loss, and he expressed some serious frustration with reliever Rafael Betancourt, whose viewpoint of things did not seem to mesh at all with Wedge's.
Betancourt was nearly unhittable a year ago, but this year he has struggled with an ERA near six.
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Cleveland Indians manager Eric Wedge critical after team's 6-5 loss to Chicago White Sox
Thursday, May 29, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
Manager Eric Wedge rarely criticizes a player like he did Rafael Betancourt on Wednesday afternoon, but that is the situation the Indians find themselves in after losing two out of three games to the first-place White Sox with their longest trip of the season starting Friday.
Chicago, which has won six of the last seven games between the two teams, scored three runs in the seventh inning on consecutive doubles off Betancourt to catch and pass the Indians, 6-5, at Progressive Field.
The Indians have lost nine of their past 11. They trail Chicago by 5? games in the American League Central Division.
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Cleveland Indians manager Eric Wedge critical after team's 6-5 loss to Chicago White Sox
Thursday, May 29, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
Manager Eric Wedge rarely criticizes a player like he did Rafael Betancourt on Wednesday afternoon, but that is the situation the Indians find themselves in after losing two out of three games to the first-place White Sox with their longest trip of the season starting Friday.
Chicago, which has won six of the last seven games between the two teams, scored three runs in the seventh inning on consecutive doubles off Betancourt to catch and pass the Indians, 6-5, at Progressive Field.
The Indians have lost nine of their past 11. They trail Chicago by 5? games in the American League Central Division.
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Plain Dealer columnist Bud Shaw says Cleveland Indians designated hitter Travis Hafner's problems go beyond his shoulder
Thursday, May 29, 2008Bud Shaw
Plain Dealer Columnist
And if the sophisticated tracking system turns up the Dalai Lama's "Art of Happiness" on your Book of the Month Club selections, they introduce you to "The Art of the Body Cavity Search."
Jack finds the bunker
In his annual Memorial Tournament interview, Jack Nicklaus says that except for purse money, things on tour were better in his day.
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Plain Dealer columnist Bud Shaw says Cleveland Indians designated hitter Travis Hafner's problems go beyond his shoulder
Thursday, May 29, 2008Bud Shaw
Plain Dealer Columnist
And if the sophisticated tracking system turns up the Dalai Lama's "Art of Happiness" on your Book of the Month Club selections, they introduce you to "The Art of the Body Cavity Search."
Jack finds the bunker
In his annual Memorial Tournament interview, Jack Nicklaus says that except for purse money, things on tour were better in his day.
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Cleveland Indians pitcher Jake Westbrook battles in return from DL
Thursday, May 29, 2008 Joe Maxse
Plain Dealer Reporter
Jake Westbrook knew he had some tough acts to follow. In the one area this season where the Indians have consistently excelled, Cleveland starting pitchers are supposed to do enough to keep their club in the game.
It has been the case most of the time as Tribe starters have gone at least five innings in 36 of the last 37 games. Make it 37 of 38.
While he did not figure in the decision in Wednesday's 6-5 loss to the Chicago White Sox, Westbrook did enough in his return to the starting rotation to take some of the sting off the tough-to-take loss. He would liked to have done more.
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Cleveland Indians pitcher Jake Westbrook battles in return from DL
Thursday, May 29, 2008 Joe Maxse
Plain Dealer Reporter
Jake Westbrook knew he had some tough acts to follow. In the one area this season where the Indians have consistently excelled, Cleveland starting pitchers are supposed to do enough to keep their club in the game.
It has been the case most of the time as Tribe starters have gone at least five innings in 36 of the last 37 games. Make it 37 of 38.
While he did not figure in the decision in Wednesday's 6-5 loss to the Chicago White Sox, Westbrook did enough in his return to the starting rotation to take some of the sting off the tough-to-take loss. He would liked to have done more.
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buckeyes_rock;1171622; said:
That is just one writer asking whether the Indians should trade CC. No where does it say they are shopping him. Just an opinion piece.
Plus all those guys mentioned probable would not even be available except for Dunn, and really the Reds would probable want guys they would keep past this year.
Then did you see the Cano part of the deal? That the Yanks would want Laffey AND Francisco???
Just face it guys, CC isn't going anywhere unless we are 10-15 games back near the deadline. And when he gets dealt it will be for hitting prospects that are 1-2 years away.
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Laffey relies on words of wisdom Young Indians left-hander takes his own advice
By Stephanie Storm
Beacon Journal sportswriter
Published on Friday, May 30, 2008
One pitch, two outs.
That's what young Indians pitcher Aaron Laffey reminds himself the moment he senses trouble in a game.
Whether there's an error behind him, or he has given up a couple of hits in a row or issued a walk, Laffey steps off the mound. He takes a deep breath. He repeats the words.
One pitch, two outs.
''At any time I can get a ground ball and get out of the inning,'' Laffey said. ''That's the beauty of how I pitch.''
It's not that Laffey, an impressionable 23-year-old, doesn't make mistakes. It's just that he is mature beyond his years and learns quickly from them. He has shown an uncanny ability to slow down the game and to move quickly into damage-control mode when he gets in a jam.
One pitch, two outs.
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Laffey relies on words of wisdom Young Indians left-hander takes his own advice
By Stephanie Storm
Beacon Journal sportswriter
Published on Friday, May 30, 2008
One pitch, two outs.
That's what young Indians pitcher Aaron Laffey reminds himself the moment he senses trouble in a game.
Whether there's an error behind him, or he has given up a couple of hits in a row or issued a walk, Laffey steps off the mound. He takes a deep breath. He repeats the words.
One pitch, two outs.
''At any time I can get a ground ball and get out of the inning,'' Laffey said. ''That's the beauty of how I pitch.''
It's not that Laffey, an impressionable 23-year-old, doesn't make mistakes. It's just that he is mature beyond his years and learns quickly from them. He has shown an uncanny ability to slow down the game and to move quickly into damage-control mode when he gets in a jam.
One pitch, two outs.
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For Indians, numbers are numbing Slow start puts Tribe in a pretty deep hole
By Patrick McManamon
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published on Friday, May 30, 2008
Baseball is a game about numbers, and the Indians' season now boils down to some numbers.
As in: The Indians must win 60 percent of their remaining games to finish the season with 90 wins.
If they wish to win 94 games, which might or might not be a reasonable number needed to win the American League Central, they will have to win 64 percent (nearly 2-of-3) the rest of the way.
The numbers make coming back to win the division a difficult proposition, and if it's a safe assumption that a wild-card team will not come from the Central, it's a clear view of the challenge the Indians face as they try to return to the playoffs.
That's the cold, hard reality
of their 24-29 start.
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For Indians, numbers are numbing Slow start puts Tribe in a pretty deep hole
By Patrick McManamon
Beacon Journal sports columnist
Published on Friday, May 30, 2008
Baseball is a game about numbers, and the Indians' season now boils down to some numbers.
As in: The Indians must win 60 percent of their remaining games to finish the season with 90 wins.
If they wish to win 94 games, which might or might not be a reasonable number needed to win the American League Central, they will have to win 64 percent (nearly 2-of-3) the rest of the way.
The numbers make coming back to win the division a difficult proposition, and if it's a safe assumption that a wild-card team will not come from the Central, it's a clear view of the challenge the Indians face as they try to return to the playoffs.
That's the cold, hard reality
of their 24-29 start.
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Plain Dealer reporter Paul Hoynes analyzes what we know and what we don't know about Cleveland Indians
Friday, May 30, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
In the Indians' front office, they already have worked their way through Plan A, Plan A1 and Plan A2. They're currently on the Bs, but have yet to crack the seal on the "bail-out plan."
Here's what we know as the Indians, who have lost 10 of their past 12 games, start an 11-game trip tonight through Kansas City, Mo., Arlington, Texas, and Detroit, while trailing the first-place Chicago White Sox by six games in the American League Central.
Manager Eric Wedge isn't getting fired
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Plain Dealer reporter Paul Hoynes analyzes what we know and what we don't know about Cleveland Indians
Friday, May 30, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
In the Indians' front office, they already have worked their way through Plan A, Plan A1 and Plan A2. They're currently on the Bs, but have yet to crack the seal on the "bail-out plan."
Here's what we know as the Indians, who have lost 10 of their past 12 games, start an 11-game trip tonight through Kansas City, Mo., Arlington, Texas, and Detroit, while trailing the first-place Chicago White Sox by six games in the American League Central.
Manager Eric Wedge isn't getting fired
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That hole in lineup is Hafner
[FONT=Verdana,Times New Roman,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Whole offense reeling as Tribe misses slugger[/FONT]
Friday, May 30, 2008
By JOSH WEIR
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER
CLEVELAND Travis Hafner ripped at the pitch and missed. Head down, boos raining from the stands, the Indians DH went back to the dugout.
Another big moment. Another big disappointment.
That was the last time Tribe fans saw Hafner ? striking out in the 10th inning of Sunday's loss, which runs together with all the other Indian defeats of late.
An irritated right shoulder sat him for the Chicago series and became the newest footnote in the saga of Pronk. As the Indians embark on an 11-game road trip, starting tonight in Kansas City, Hafner is the biggest question mark on a team full of puzzling aspects.
"I'm just looking to get over the hump, get on a roll, start playing well and start winning games," said Hafner, who hopes to play tonight after receiving a cortisone shot Tuesday.
Hafner can't be blamed solely for the woeful Indians offense, not when basically every position player from the opening-day roster is under-performing.
A major contributing factor? No doubt.
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That hole in lineup is Hafner
[FONT=Verdana,Times New Roman,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Whole offense reeling as Tribe misses slugger[/FONT]
Friday, May 30, 2008
By JOSH WEIR
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER
CLEVELAND Travis Hafner ripped at the pitch and missed. Head down, boos raining from the stands, the Indians DH went back to the dugout.
Another big moment. Another big disappointment.
That was the last time Tribe fans saw Hafner ? striking out in the 10th inning of Sunday's loss, which runs together with all the other Indian defeats of late.
An irritated right shoulder sat him for the Chicago series and became the newest footnote in the saga of Pronk. As the Indians embark on an 11-game road trip, starting tonight in Kansas City, Hafner is the biggest question mark on a team full of puzzling aspects.
"I'm just looking to get over the hump, get on a roll, start playing well and start winning games," said Hafner, who hopes to play tonight after receiving a cortisone shot Tuesday.
Hafner can't be blamed solely for the woeful Indians offense, not when basically every position player from the opening-day roster is under-performing.
A major contributing factor? No doubt.
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Mac
That's a pain in the buns
The Official Site of The Cleveland Indians: News: Strained pulley tendon benches Miller
05/28/2008 5:53 PM ET
Strained pulley tendon benches Miller
Prospect could throw in eight weeks after right finger surgery
By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com
CLEVELAND -- Oft-injured top pitching prospect Adam Miller is on the shelf again, and this time, his season could be over. Miller, who went on the Triple-A Buffalo disabled list Monday, had surgery performed on the middle finger of his right hand Tuesday by team hand specialist Dr. Tom Graham in Baltimore to repair a strained pulley tendon.
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05/28/2008 5:53 PM ET
Strained pulley tendon benches Miller
Prospect could throw in eight weeks after right finger surgery
By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com
CLEVELAND -- Oft-injured top pitching prospect Adam Miller is on the shelf again, and this time, his season could be over. Miller, who went on the Triple-A Buffalo disabled list Monday, had surgery performed on the middle finger of his right hand Tuesday by team hand specialist Dr. Tom Graham in Baltimore to repair a strained pulley tendon.
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