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Indians Tidbits (2008 season)

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LitlBuck;1194971; said:
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I have no idea why they would be looking at pitching when they need someone to hit the ball:sad2:
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We need starting pitching almost as badly right now. With Fausto out until at least the break, and Sowers getting hammered everytime out, we need bodies to take the mound every fifth day. Garcia would have to be an upgrade over Jeremy 'effing Sowers. Particularly if they're gonna deal C.C.

Also, these fuckers continue to amaze me with their inability to hit bad pitchers. It's been funny for a while now, but now it's getting to be pathetic. Bronson Arroyo??? Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?

One other thing: If they do not fucking shitcan Andy Marte in the next couple weeks, I'm going to take a big burrito dump in a box, mail it to Mark Shapiro and beg him to have the turd play 3rd base.
 
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NFBuck;1195124; said:
We need starting pitching almost as badly right now. With Fausto out until at least the break, and Sowers getting hammered everytime out, we need bodies to take the mound every fifth day. Garcia would have to be an upgrade over Jeremy 'effing Sowers. Particularly if they're gonna deal C.C..
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I was thinking that as I was dictating my post. I realize that we need starting pitching though we also need some hitters. The question is now worth we need more of starting pitching or somebody who can hit the ball. How many times we going to lose by a 1-2 runs or be shut down by some unknown or a guy on his way out to retirement.
 
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ABJ

Collision not as bad, or good, as it seemed
CLEVELAND: At the time, it appeared the Indians had saved an important run when Adam Dunn tried to score from first on Javier Valentin's second-inning double.
But relays from David Dellucci in left to Jhonny Peralta at short to Kelly Shoppach at the plate nailed the lumbering Dunn, one of the larger players (6-foot-6) in baseball.
Shoppach managed to avoid direct contact at the plate, receiving only a glancing blow from the onrushing Dunn.
''No hard feelings,'' Shoppach said, smiling. ''I was able to ask him if that's all he had. It was a clean play. I was just joking with him.''
VOTE UPDATE ? Grady Sizemore remains the only Tribe position player with a reasonable chance of making the American League All-Star team. Even Sizemore is a long shot. With in-stadium balloting complete, Sizemore ranks 12th among outfielders with 777,807 votes. Manny Ramirez leads with 2,409,388.
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ABJ

Reds embarrass Indians again.

Upcoming road trip is pivotal
By Sheldon Ocker Beacon Journal sportswriter
POSTED: 06:40 p.m. EDT, Jun 29, 2008
CLEVELAND: When the leaves begin to fall and the afternoons turn chilly, there will be time to reflect on the past season and make a proper accounting of the Indians' most embarrassing losses of 2008.
Surely, last week's defeat to clueless Barry Zito and the San Francisco Giants will be in the running for a top-10 berth. But no more so than Sunday's 9-5 loss to the Cincinnati Reds at Progressive Field.
The Tribe was up against Bronson Arroyo, who in his last outing, against the Toronto Blue Jays, was shelled for 10 runs in less than two innings. In his preceding start, he allowed ''only'' six runs in 61/3 innings against the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Coming into Sunday's game, Arroyo's overall record was 4-7 with a 6.52 ERA. Even the offensively challenged Indians figured to make Arroyo sweat a little.
Instead, Arroyo (5-7, 6.19 ERA) permitted only two runs, (one earned) and five hits in six innings. In his first five innings, Arroyo allowed just two hits.
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ABJ

Losses on field costly at gate Poor performance, unfavorable schedule leave attendance short of projections
By Sheldon Ocker
Beacon Journal sportswriter

Published on Monday, Jun 30, 2008
CLEVELAND: The Indians are paying for their losing record at the gate.
At the outset of the season, the executive vice president of business, Dennis Lehman, and his lieutenants projected attendance would rise from 2.2 million last year to 2.5 million this season.
So far they are 145,000 short of the incremental goal after 43 dates, despite being on target in two important areas.
''Our full-season ticket sales and group sales are right around the plan,'' Lehman said Sunday. ''The challenge is in individual-game sales.''
Virtually all season tickets and most group tickets are sold before the season and are dependent on expectations for the team based on its performance the previous year and offseason moves.
Individual-game ticket sales are more of a reflection of the current state of the club and outside factors, such as the weather.
The Tribe probably hasn't played in rain more than usual, but even if dark clouds and showers arrive in the afternoon and disappear by game time, attendance is affected.
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CPD

Cincinnati Reds defeat the Cleveland Indians, 9-5, at Progressive Field


Monday, June 30, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
Before Sunday's game, catcher Kelly Shoppach said the Indians were a team in need of a big hit. He wasn't talking about this kind of big hit.
In the second inning of the Indians' 9-5 loss to Cincinnati, the Reds' Javier Valentin doubled to left-center field, prompting third-base coach Mark Berry to wave the 6-6, 275-pound Adam Dunn home as he tried to score from first base. Shoppach took shortstop Jhonny Peralta's relay throw just before Dunn lowered his shoulder and collided with him. Shoppach spun out of the way while applying the tag, hit the ground, but hung on to the ball.
He popped up, nonchalantly dropped the ball on the plate and headed for the dugout with the game still scoreless.

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CPD

Indians hope trip does them good


Monday, June 30, 2008Chris Herring
Plain Dealer Reporter
Though it's common practice for the Indians to say they are "taking it one game at a time," some players acknowledged Sunday that they're looking ahead to the next eight.
With upcoming road games at Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit - the three teams ahead of the Tribe in the AL Central - the last-place Indians have little choice but to look at the big picture.
"This is what it's all about. It's going to make it or break it for us," manager Eric Wedge said of the stretch.

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CPD

Punchless Cleveland Indians is ill prepared for any battle -- Bill Livingston


Monday, June 30, 2008
Through a combination of injuries, smugness, and some of the most staggering talent misjudgments since Butch Davis was drafting for the Browns, the Indians gave Battle of Ohio fans Murderers Woe Sunday.
The bottom of the order included David Dellucci (.217), Andy Marte (.127) and Jorge Velandia, who got his first two hits of 2008. Actually, Velandia's sample is too small to judge.
Not so with Marte who, in 55 at-bats, trails Tribe pitcher C.C. Sabathia, 1-0, in RBI. Is there another position player in baseball who's been on a roster all season with no RBI? Playing third Sunday, he put Velandia in harm's way by starting a double play with his throw leading Velandia toward onrushing Ken Griffey Jr. But Velandia made the pivot anyway.

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CPD

Cleveland Indians hitters need to follow third baseman Casey Blake's lead


Monday, June 30, 2008Paul Hoynes
Plain Dealer Reporter
Casey Blake is proof that not hitting with runners in scoring position is a problem that can be overcome.
Last year, Blake hit .190 (31-for-163) with runners in scoring position and the criticism never stopped. This year, the Tribe's third baseman is hitting .412 (28-for-68) with runners in scoring position.
The question is, can Blake's teammates follow his example before the season is lost?

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Canton

Indians hit a new low in loss
Monday, June 30, 2008
BY JOSH WEIR
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER

CLEVELAND In "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly," Clint Eastwood tells us there are two kinds of people in this world, those with loaded weapons and those who dig.

Applied to baseball, Clint's wisdom means the Indians are making themselves a trench.

Tribe bats continued to shoot blanks in key moments and Aaron Laffey had a rare poor start in Sunday's 9-5 loss to the Reds at Progressive Field, finishing up a 2-4 homestand against Cincinnati and San Francisco ? two teams a combined 17 games under .500.

Now might be a nice time for the Indians to start digging themselves out of the grave. The last-place Tribe starts an eight-game road trip tonight that will take them to Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit, the three teams in front of the Indians and the Royals (tied with 37-45 records) in the Central Division standings.

"We have a lot of games left in our division," Cleveland Manager Eric Wedge said. "That's going to make it or break it for us. It's pretty simple stuff."

Sunday's embarrassing loss to the Reds ? the National League Central's last-place team ? played out much like Saturday's embarrassing loss to the Reds.

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Canton

A big eight-game road trip for Tribe
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Monday, June 30, 2008
BY JOSH WEIR
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER

CLEVELAND Not to put too much emphasis on the Tribe's eight-game road swing starting tonight in Chicago, but ...

"This is definitely going to be the biggest road trip of the year," Indians LHP Aaron Laffey said. "It's going to make or break us pretty much."

Well then.

The Indians will face the White Sox for three games, the Twins for three and the Tigers for two during the next 10 days. The White Sox, Twins and Tigers happen to be the three teams the Indians are looking up at in the Central Division.

Having lost eight of the last 12 games, the Tribe (37-45) is trying to stay positive during this disappointing season.

"You always have your share of negativity when you're not playing as well as you want to play, but for the most part, guys are pretty upbeat still," INF Casey Blake said.

Blake feels like the key is the Indians stringing together "several wins in a row, just get a ton of confidence built up," he said. "I feel like there is a lot of hope right now, like we're hoping to do the job rather than kind of knowing good things are going to happen."

Cleveland hasn't won three straight games since sweeping Oakland, May 13-15.
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Dispatch

Reds 9 Indians 5
Opposite directions
Reds see healthy signs on winning trip; Tribe continues to teeter
Monday, June 30, 2008 3:03 AM
By Scott Priestle


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Indians catcher Kelly Shoppach, right, holds on to the ball after tagging out Adam Dunn at the plate in the second inning.


CLEVELAND -- The Cincinnati Reds left here with a trophy, a rare winning record for the trip and a few more healthy bodies. There was reason to smile on the flight home, and manager Dusty Baker suddenly has reason to wake up at 6:21 a.m. pondering his lineup, as he did yesterday before the Reds beat the Indians 9-5. It's something. The Indians left here in last place in the American League Central, their offense comatose and the upcoming schedule inviting either redemption or resignation. Their next eight games are on the road against the top three teams in the division.
Maybe the best barometer of the teams' moods was Reds starter Bronson Arroyo, who allowed one earned run in six innings. In his previous start, he allowed 10 runs and recorded only three outs against Toronto, and he said he pitched better that day than yesterday.
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In the last 2 weeks this team has lost to

Bronson Arroyo 5-7 6.19 ERA .316 BAA

Barry Zito 3-11 5.91 ERA .313 BAA

Jorge De La Rosa 2-4 6.23 ERA

Jeff Francis 3-7 5.67 ERA

And Greg Rynolds 2-5 5.68 ERA
 
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