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Indians Tidbits (2007 Season)

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LitlBuck;836052; said:
I realize Westbrook's injury is not that serious but what I am trying to say is what you do with Carmona when Westbrook comes back. Sooner or later if you keep on shuffling him back to Buffalo, he is going to be out of options just like Cabrera (SP?).
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Actually options don't work that way. It is not based on how many times you are moved between the Minors and the Majors in a given year. It is just the fact he was moved up/down once. So once that is broken you can yo-yo him back and forth all year. It's not like he has 20 options and if he is moved up and down 20 times he runs out.

I am just happy they are going to leave Carmona as a starter. As a starter he can use his variety of pitchers better, because in relief pitching 1 inning you are taught to cut down on your pitches and just throw fastballs and your out pitch. Carmona is just better when he uses all of his pitches.

Now, about who is the odd man out? Well, it is Carmona. He knows he is the 6th starter on the team and is the 1st guy called up to spot start. It is a nice luxary to have and something we should not worry about, our starters have not been the problem this year, so why mess with it?

Now about Miller I am sure the Indians will be very content on keeping him at AAA all year long. Why rush him? And some people will hate this, but it is also for financial reasons. Once he gets the call up his clock starts ticking for arbitration and free agency. So IF we don't need him why should he be called up?
 
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NFBuck;836577; said:
Bah. Lost 3-2. Bats got to Weaver in the first, but went cold. Byrd pitched a nice game, only 2 runs in seven. Cabrera coughed it up in the 8th. Cabrera came out on fire this season, but has looked really shaky his past few outtings.
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Cabrera looking shaky is all my fault. I picked him up for my fantasy baseball team. :roll1:
 
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Piney;836719; said:
Now about Miller I am sure the Indians will be very content on keeping him at AAA all year long. Why rush him? And some people will hate this, but it is also for financial reasons. Once he gets the call up his clock starts ticking for arbitration and free agency. So IF we don't need him why should he be called up?
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I agree with you 100% on this. The only way I want to see Miller in Cleveland this year is if an emergency arises and we need another starter or, God willing, we're sitting pretty in September and can call him up to give him a cup of coffee while resting up some of out vets for the post season.
 
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NFBuck;836577; said:
Bah. Lost 3-2. Bats got to Weaver in the first, but went cold. Byrd pitched a nice game, only 2 runs in seven. Cabrera coughed it up in the 8th. Cabrera came out on fire this season, but has looked really shaky his past few outtings.
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cabrera and carmona are extremely similar in that they are beyond tough when they have control. when they cannot consistently hit their locations, they struggle.

Regardless, bases loaded and 1 out, you have to score a run. Cleveland is now 2-18 with the bases loaded and one out. That's terrible.
 
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ABJ

Tribe fails to back Byrd with offense

Starter does his job, but Cabrera gives up winning home run

By Sheldon Ocker

Beacon Journal sportswriter

ANAHEIM, CALIF. - As good as it gets might be the appropriate way to describe the Indians' starting pitching lately.
In the past four games, the Tribe rotation has compiled a 1.50 ERA and averaged almost 7 2/3 innings per start.
Paul Byrd did his part Wednesday night at Angels Stadium, giving up two runs and nine hits in seven innings, but the Tribe lost 3-2 to the Los Angeles Angels.
It took the Angels until the seventh to dent the scoreboard off Byrd, who until then had allowed six hits and no walks.

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He's got it covered

Sports Illustrated star treatment of Sizemore not jinx to his career

By Terry Pluto

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Cleveland Indians' Grady Sizemore makes a running catch for the out on a ball hit by Texas Rangers' Brad Wilkerson in the sixth inning of a baseball game Wednesday, April 25, 2007, in Cleveland.
For a guy who wrote The Curse of Rocky Colavito, it sounds strange to say I don't believe in jinxes.
OK, some jinxes.
I'll just say it: Being on the cover of Sports Illustrated won't sink the career of Tribe center fielder Grady Sizemore.
The Tribe cover fans seem to remember the most was from April 1987. The magazine predicted the Indians to win the World Series, and featured the pictures of Joe Carter and Cory Snyder.
They lost 101 games that season.

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Piney;836719; said:
Actually options don't work that way. It is not based on how many times you are moved between the Minors and the Majors in a given year. It is just the fact he was moved up/down once. So once that is broken you can yo-yo him back and forth all year. It's not like he has 20 options and if he is moved up and down 20 times he runs out.
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How does a player run out of options? You mean a major-league team can keep on sending a player back to the minors regardless of season and they will never run out of options? How did Davis run out of options and how is Cabrera out of options? Maybe I just don't understand.
 
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LitlBuck;837104; said:
How does a player run out of options? You mean a major-league team can keep on sending a player back to the minors regardless of season and they will never run out of options? How did Davis run out of options and how is Cabrera out of options? Maybe I just don't understand.
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Gotta love wikipedia...


If a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the active major league roster, he is said to be on optional assignment?his organization may freely move him between the major league club and the minor league club. If a player is on the 40-man roster and not the active 25 man roster for any part of more than three seasons, he is out of options and may not be assigned to the minors without first clearing waivers. If a major league player is ineligible for free agency and "has options" remaining, his team may option him to a minor league team without consequence. This is usually what is meant when players are "sent down" to the minors. Likewise, when a player on the 40-man roster is added to the active major league roster, he is "called up" to the majors.
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So basically it is a 3 year window. In other words Cabrera has been on the 40 man roster for more than 3 years (along with Davis). So they are out of options, while Carmona has not been on the 40 man roster for 3 years yet.
 
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ABJ

Bay Area no home for native Sabathia

Home runs spur A's to rout of Tribe, whose offense is largely Garko

OAKLAND, CALIF. - By Sheldon Ocker
Beacon Journal sportswriter
It is not surprising that the Oakland Athletics handed Indians starter C.C. Sabathia his first loss of 2007.
Sabathia (5-1, 4.02 ERA) grew up in nearby Vallejo, gateway to the Napa Valley, 20 miles north of Oakland Coliseum. Some players thrive pitching before their friends and family near the old homestead. Sabathia never has.
The Indians' 8-2 defeat Friday night lowered Sabathia's career record against the A's to 1-5 with a 6.60 ERA.
``It's not the A's, it's more me,'' Sabathia said. ``Today, I had everything going, but when something goes bad here, I don't stop the bleeding. Everywhere else I can. But I think I try too hard here. I want to do good in front of my family.''

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Hafner takes slump in stride

Tribe designated hitter says `that's just baseball,' he'll remain disciplined

By Sheldon Ocker

Beacon Journal sportswriter

OAKLAND, CALIF. - Nobody with any sense of perspective would expect Indians designated hitter Travis Hafner to maintain the torrid pace he established for seven games starting April 17.
During that stretch, Hafner batted .615 (16-for-26) with three home runs and eight RBI.
In the past nine games going into Friday night's encounter with the Athletics, Hafner has seen the other side of that coin, batting just .147 (5-for-34) with one home run and five RBI.
It should not be surprising to see a hitter -- even a good hitter -- fall into a slump. But when it's Hafner, and when his hot streak is followed by an icy skid, people begin to wonder.
``He's human,'' manager Eric Wedge said. ``Some people don't like to think that, because he's such a great hitter.''

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What I've feared all along...the bullpen. There were no real improvements made in the offseason. Blowowski is awful. The middle/long relief has been solid so far. Hopefully they aren't gonna come apart at the seams.
 
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