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I'm Optimistic...Still

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Captain Buckeye said:
Which if we get in is the biggest question mark.

It's CJ Stroud.
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Stroud is a interesting case. He has streaks where he is amazing but outside of that he has been incredibly "meh" this year. Super hesitant at times. Especially in the last 5 games. Did defenses just figure out the key to getting in his head and making him take that extra second or two to make a decision which causes a incompletion/negative play? I at least partially blame Day for his love of going to gameplans that essentially take Stroud's arm ability out of the game. Thats gotta be somewhat demoralizing for a QB. The second half (and a good amount of the first half) of the Michigan game was just mind boggling play calling wise.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Stroud is a interesting case. He has streaks where he is amazing but outside of that he has been incredibly "meh" this year. Super hesitant at times. Especially in the last 5 games. Did defenses just figure out the key to getting in his head and making him take that extra second or two to make a decision which causes a incompletion/negative play? I at least partially blame Day for his love of going to gameplans that essentially take Stroud's arm ability out of the game. Thats gotta be somewhat demoralizing for a QB. The second half (and a good amount of the first half) of the Michigan game was just mind boggling play calling wise.
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Well losing Olave, Wilson and JSN isn't exactly ideal.

The issue was we didn't face a defense all year until 2 days ago that could challenge us. So there just was no development.

If we can get in the playoffs and add JSN maybe we see a different Stroud?
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Stroud is a interesting case. He has streaks where he is amazing but outside of that he has been incredibly "meh" this year. Super hesitant at times. Especially in the last 5 games. Did defenses just figure out the key to getting in his head and making him take that extra second or two to make a decision which causes a incompletion/negative play? I at least partially blame Day for his love of going to gameplans that essentially take Stroud's arm ability out of the game. Thats gotta be somewhat demoralizing for a QB. The second half (and a good amount of the first half) of the Michigan game was just mind boggling play calling wise.
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People started to not blitz and sometimes drop a dl back for underneath routes. Because he never runs this is hard to throw against. Also way to many routes to the sidelines IMO
 
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Gunlife said:
Star players can make dumb coaches look amazing. We see it all the time. You don't think a healthy Hall doesn't get home before one of those long pass plays? Or that JSN moves the sticks 3 or more times because he is uncoverable in the short game?
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With what I saw Saturday? No, personally I don't, because the deficiencies I saw out there weren't physical ones that a "better" player would have fixed.
 
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I don't think a healthy Hall makes THAT big of a difference. He might have gotten home once or twice but the big issue IMO is that our best three DEs seem to rely entirely on speed rushes. There doesn't seem to be much of an inside move, so they just try to rush around the tackle, which means JJ can just step up in the pocket and get the ball out. Occasionally, Harrison beat his guy and was able to get a hand on a ball, but for the most part they were trying speed rushes around the outside of the blocker and it was letting McCarthy step into the pocket to get the ball out or to take off in the hole left by the DE.
 
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Is this a bad take on our QB room, or is it me? We need to go to the transfer portal to find a "starting" QB? McCord and Brown have been coached up by Day, Dennis and company, and they should be just cast aside?

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"Ohio State lost one elite quarterback recruit to the transfer portal last season (Quinn Ewers), which really didn’t hurt at the time considering Stroud was just lighting up. The only other quarterback on the roster with any experience is Kyle McCord who, we know, is not at Stroud’s level. Freshman Devin Brown, the No. 6 quarterback in his recruiting class, is the other option."
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Is this a bad take on our QB room, or is it me? We need to go to the transfer portal to find a "starting" QB? McCord and Brown have been coached up by Day, Dennis and company, and they should be just cast aside?

From LandGrantHolyLand:



"Ohio State lost one elite quarterback recruit to the transfer portal last season (Quinn Ewers), which really didn’t hurt at the time considering Stroud was just lighting up. The only other quarterback on the roster with any experience is Kyle McCord who, we know, is not at Stroud’s level. Freshman Devin Brown, the No. 6 quarterback in his recruiting class, is the other option."
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Seems like a bad take. Ewers was nothing special at Texas this year. I don't think he does any better, if anything he does worse than Stroud this year. The jury is still very much out on him actually being "elite". McCord is probably good enough to win 10/11 games. But is he a national title caliber QB? We wont know until he actually plays.
 
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I firmly believe Ewers had no intention of ever playing here and just came to get a year of tutelage under Ryan Day while getting paid since he couldn't do so in Texas. It was a mutually beneficial deal where Ewers got his money and some coaching from Day and Day and OSU got to show a ton of recruits what the NIL possibilities were for elite level recruits at Ohio State.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Do players being healthy = Day and Knowles pulling their heads out of their rear ends and stop constantly continuing to try to run things that clearly aren't working though?
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Sophomore JSN makes everyone look like a genius, let alone a guy with another offseason of work. Hard to outsmart yourself when your QB has a mind meld with the best WR in CFB who also happens to be your most versatile and consistent player. Now MHJr is getting 1on1 every play and Egbuka gets a nickel or safety to work on.

His absence kept this offense from rivaling '19 LSU and '20 Bama.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
Sophomore JSN makes everyone look like a genius, let alone a guy with another offseason of work. Hard to outsmart yourself when your QB has a mind meld with the best WR in CFB who also happens to be your most versatile and consistent player. Now MHJr is getting 1on1 every play and Egbuka gets a nickel or safety to work on.

His absence kept this offense from rivaling '19 LSU and '20 Bama.
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To me it definitely felt like every WR being promoted 1 spot hurt this team when JSN went put. The throw game just felt forced all year.
 
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SKULL SESSION: OHIO STATE IS RECESSION-PROOF

RECESSION-PROOF? For over 60 years, Ohio State has delivered a consistently good product on the football field. Of course, the program had ebbs and flows – some up years and some down years. But for the last six decades, the Buckeyes were at least a respectable team year in and year out.

According to The Athletic's Andy Bitter, Ohio State is "the most recession-proof program in college football." In Bitter's estimation, the Buckeyes haven't flopped for 63 seasons, dating back to 1959, when they finished 3-5-1 in Woody Hayes' ninth year as head coach.

The Buckeyes haven’t finished with a sub-.400 winning percentage in 63 years and counting. (They were close in 1988, going 4-6-1 in John Cooper’s first season, but didn’t quite dip below.) Ohio State started 1959 ranked No. 7, with Woody Hayes in his ninth season, just two years removed from his second Rose Bowl win and a No. 2 final ranking. The Buckeyes lost three of their first five, though, to No. 11 USC, No. 20 Illinois and No. 12 Wisconsin, beating No. 6 Purdue in between.

OSU’s problem was it couldn’t score, despite future College Football Hall of Famer Bob Ferguson taking over a starring role from fullback Bob White, who finished fourth in the 1958 Heisman voting. The Buckeyes’ 9.2 points per game ranked last in the Big Ten. They were shut out three times. It was the only time from 1957-61 Ohio State didn’t finish in the top 10.


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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...brian-hartline-believes-jaxon-smith-njigba-is

"Recession proof": another reason to be optimistic......:nod:
 
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