Kiki_Buckeye;990380; said:
Hey, if you want to give Zook the credit for our shitty loss, be my guest. I never ever called for anyone being fired (this isn't even JT's fault - you can't force passion, energy, and desire).
I will give Zook credit, most teams would have been deflated after the first Buckeye drive, they came out and responded. They played a great game plan, very few penalties and frustrated us. What part of that doesn't credit Zook?
BTW, I'm a buckeye fan just like you, but I'm calling it like I see it. It was a shitty loss and it couldn't have come at the worst possible time (the Illini???). If we played like that throughout the season, we would have about a 1-10 record.
The Illini are now 8-3, and are close to being 9-2, what about this loss should make us 1-10? I'll agree we played our worst game today, but I think you're taking a lot of credit away from the team we played. This isn't the same Illinois team as three years ago, Zook has done a lot of good and he's brought a style of defense that really frustrates us. We made a lot of mistakes today, the three picks, missed tackles and poor play calling decisions, but the Illini did put up four touchdowns in the shoe, that's something no one else has done this year.
Another note, this is a big10 team, they get a taste of us every year, sooner or later they are going to see something and try it. We need to change things up.
If you want to continue to be "satisfied" with a conference championship and the silly little rivalry with sCUM, then fine. We will never be nationally respected til we start playing like we expect more (and believe me, OSU is not respected - but we should be...)
Yes, I will be satisfied with going to the Rose Bowl and beating scUM, so many years that was all I wanted. I would have loved a NC this year, but we were expected to finish third or fourth in the big10, and to be in some nobody bowl, now we're looking at a chance at the Rose Bowl, what is there to be ashamed of?
No one here is happy with the loss, but there's not a lot we can do about it, bitching and complaining on a forum filled with people who survived the cooper era and some who can even recall watching woody win NC's doesn't change anything, it salts the wound.
Hope great minds think alike.