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Heroes, The TV Show

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BuckNutJoeHall;939568; said:
What happened the first half hour tonight? My piece of shit DVR box doesnt record sound, so I missed half the show
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Everything started four months forward from the end of the last episode.
Peter was assumed dead (by Nathan and their mother, amongst others).

Matt passed his PD course, with a little help from his talent to read minds.

Suresh was lecturing - to a nearly empty room. A man, whom we later learnt could turn base metal to gold with a touch (midas if you will) lures Suresh into the company.

The cheerleader et al have moved into California where she has some adjusting to do, and may have met an interesting young fellow.

Meanwhile Hiro is back in Japan learning that his ancestral hero figure is a piss ant mercenary Englishman who should not have been "saved."

The virus that attacked Molly in the last episodes is actually a long-term threat to the "Heroes." Molly herself is having bad dreams, which she draws about. Eyes, and the Japanese symbol from Hiro's sword.

Meanwhile we have a Lou Dobson twist with illegal aliens wanting to get to America to meet the son (Suresh) of the doctor who wrote the manual on the new species.
 
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Thanks a ton Sand, that little twist in Ireland at the end had me. It answered the biggest question I had going into this season. Also does it seem to anyone else that Nathan has taken on the persona that Peter "had" in the first version of the future?
 
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A few of my theories from the new season:

I think the most obvious is that Hiro actually takes the role of his boyhood Hero (Kinse?) to 'right' history, and becomes the legend his Father told stories about, falls in love with the girl, etc., etc.

I think the the writers are trying hard to make us think that the assassin who's leaving the 'death card' for all the 'Elders' is Nathan...the dude in the Belichick hoodie...a vengfull Nathan, going around serving his own form of justice to those who set the plan that took his brother from him.

He bumped into Hiro's friend in the very beginning of the episode as he brought Hiro's Father the newspaper (in which he found the death card). He came in the apartment after his mother was already there, then kicked her out, at which point she found her card in the hall.

Hiro's Father is pushed off the top of the apartment and dies from the fall...but there's no assassin laying next to him. So he either is a really quick healer and got up and ran away, or he never hit the ground and flew away (i.e Nathan).

So, not that it absolutely is Nathan...maybe someone else with the power of flight...we already know there are plenty of others who can fly (Peter, the new kid at Claire's school). Or maybe someone even shape-shifting to appear to be Nathan, as Sylar did in the alternate future before the bomb was stopped. Or even if it is Nathan, someone could be controling / persuading him in some way.

In any case, I just believe that is what initial direction it's taking...wanting us to believe Nathan is on some vigilante rampage.

Obviously Sylar is still alive...likely retrieved by The Company to attempt to put him to their use (as Midas man eluded to). I half believe that Linderman is probably still alive. We'll see.

I can't wait to find out who "the boogie" man is...could it be the English Kinse? Did the end of the show / preview of next week have Hiro talking to him about how he has powers like him? I kind of just caught a super quick flash of something...not exactly sure if I heard what I thought I heard. But that is the symbol from the sword everyone is so afraid of, isn't it? Same one around Peter's neck?

Is Evil Kinse traveling through time, taking his small-time, ancient Japanese pilage & plunder show to levels spanning time & history...setting up a clash of Hiro Kinse verses Boogie Man / Evil Kinse?

Just a shit-load of my thoughts after Episode One of the new season...don't know if I'm even close on any, but I think they all sound reasonable at this point. :biggrin:


LOVE this show!

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Padraig, good theories but I have a few different takes on them.

But first things first... How did Nathan survive??? No clue there and I just hope they answer it.

I think it was too obvious that it was Nathan that killed Hiro's dad. First off as I was watching it I was thinking it was Peter seeking vengence, but the ending kinda killed that thought of mine. But Hiro's dad seemed to know the person that was killing him, and was surprised by it. So I am thinking he is an older hero we don't know yet.

So it brings this theory up in my mind. Could it be Nathan and Peter's dad? Of course they "say" he is dead but if he was an older hero he could easily have just decided to go into hiding for some thing he did in the past and now with what happened is out for vengence.

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So it looks like Claire's new friend has a power too. Which of course will lead to trouble.

Molly's nightmares are interesting, but I have a feeling the bogeyman is about 6-7 episodes away from showing up, just like Sylar from last year. It will build suspense and probable be the cliffhanger during Xmas Hiatus.

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Hiro's spinoff is interesting. Did he just affect history? Or is he the real Kinse? Or is the daughter the real Kinse? So many ways they can go there. Hiro can train or "help" the british guy to be who he is. Or he does it himself. Or he helps the girl be the Kinse, and I can almost think that her father will end up looking alot like Hiro's dad in a "Hiro finds out he is actually related to the mythic Kinse.

So many ways they can spin it we just have to watch which one they decide on.
 
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Interesting theories by you guys here. I am just geeked that the show is back. I really like how they are setting up the story so far. Anyone else notice Nathan when he looked into the mirror in the bar and saw himself all scarred? Also, what do you think the Latin girl that is trying to get across the border with her brother has? Obviously something very lethal. It looked like all the people who were dead on the truck were bleeding from the eyes. I can only think of some kind of bright light that she can generate or something like that.
 
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Big Papa;939883; said:
Interesting theories by you guys here. I am just geeked that the show is back. I really like how they are setting up the story so far. Anyone else notice Nathan when he looked into the mirror in the bar and saw himself all scarred? Also, what do you think the Latin girl that is trying to get across the border with her brother has? Obviously something very lethal. It looked like all the people who were dead on the truck were bleeding from the eyes. I can only think of some kind of bright light that she can generate or something like that.
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Would this be the first threat that Molly, Matt and Suresh have to handle?
(The drawings).
 
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Just reiterating what many of mentioned/wondered.

The scarred Nathan was weird, I wonder if that's how he sees himself, or...not sure what? I can't wait till they explain Peter and Nathan being alive.

I think it's very obvious Hiro becomes Kensai.

I didn't want to see Hiro's dad die so soon, what was his power? We never did find out eh? I think that it's an older hero sent to kill him too.

I think that Midas touch guy can turn anything into gold, well any solid maybe. Or any metal, not sure.

I am curious as the Mexican girl, what exactly is her power? Obviously she can't control her power wellas it's AOE. And it turns there eyes black and such? No clue.

Molly didn't have the virus, she had some other disorder I believe. Because Suresh cured that already and he wouldn't need to "research" the virus then.
 
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I am rewatching Heroes again, in the opening scene with Mohinder's monologue they show Claire's dad slapping Linderman, was that from last season? I wonder if Sylar's cameo there was from last season as well?

Also Molly's pictures are the same as the "Death sign" given to Peter's Mom and Takei. Same guy?
 
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