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Herbstreit in the DOG house..

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Herbie is a huge Bengal fan, but that hasn't stopped him from criticizing them when they deserved it - which has been often. Obviously, I'm not equating Ohio State with the Bengals in terms of success, but you get the idea. His comments about the Buckeye offense are completely within the realm of reasonable discourse. We do the same thing with this forum all the time. Herbie was correct to point out that an offense like this has the potential to hurt recruiting. Kudos to Geiger in his overall handling of the Clarett problem, but he's being thin-skinned re Herbstreit.


Another analogy: SEINFELD may be my favorite TV show, but that doesn't change the fact that the last season blew, IMO.
 
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I can not stress this enough...
KIRK HERBSTREIT IS PAID TO CRITICIZE OUR OFFENSE!
If they aren't doing the job, he has an obligation to point that out.

By the logic many of you are using, you have to be an elite college quarterback to suggest that a college offense isn't effective. I can't take the stupidity...really. I swear if I didn't have a life, I'd keep a list of every last one of you that are dissing Kirk and I would look at every post that you write for the next month. Everytime you say anything negative about the team, I would nail you with comments about being a traitor. Anytime you'd analyze a part of the team...I would make sure you practically got a doctorate at that position to make sure you were qualified to HAVE an opinion.

Dang it Mili...I need a sedative. I hold my tounge well, but these guys make me want to break into a swearing fit. Maybe you could throw in a few for me in your next post.
 
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Let's not go too far either way. Herbstreit has his opinions, and so do we. Generally, his tenure with ESPN has been outstanding. Inarguably, he's the best CFB analyst they have, and it's a credit to tOSU that he's a former player and alum. Wonderful.

That having been said, we can still be proud of the guy and not love every statement that comes out of his mouth. His statement about offensive recruits would be one of those. He's made his call -- to him, the woes are entirely due to scheme and playcalling. I lean far more towards the lack of execution angle; dropped passes, missed blocks, untimely penalties, poor running, turnovers, etc. I am not sure what play you call to keep the football from bouncing off of a Freshman reciever's helmet or hands, for example. You can only do so much with just a scheme change. Just look at Nebraska, for example.

On the other hand, he's part of a growing chorus that wants to see a full-time o-coordinator come to Columbus. Lots of us are in that camp, myself included, if for the only reason that a head coach at the top level of D1A has so much going on that it's almost impossible to go without one.
 
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MegaWoody said:
Any way you look at it, Kirk Herbstreit is very good for tOSU football program.

He co-hosts the most widely viewed college football show in America. He is attractive, articulate and can be very funny. So the average American football fan relates to him very well ...or he wouldn't be on the show. ESPN has other options.

Everyone who watches that show -- I'd guesstimate 15 million people or so -- knows that this guy they like very much played at tOSU. That's called "representing" and Herbie does it very well.

So you can be upset that he's not a complete Buckeye whore if you want to, but you're dead wrong if you think his national prominence and popularity with college football fans don't reflect well on tOSU. They do. He is a PR bonanza for the University and headbanger "fans" who can't see that are blind, or stupid, or both.
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You make several good points. And you seem offended when I attacked Herbie . That shows pride I can respect that. I was also offended when Herbie attacked Our head coach AND said to players everywhere that he would not recommend OSU yours and mine to any blue chipper looking for a good program. I did not like it at all and I cant get over just yet. I think herbie is very talented and he is a buckeye like myself, but I would rather not work for any company if I had to rip on my own program.

OilerBuck said:
I can not stress this enough...
KIRK HERBSTREIT IS PAID TO CRITICIZE OUR OFFENSE!
If they aren't doing the job, he has an obligation to point that out.

By the logic many of you are using, you have to be an elite college quarterback to suggest that a college offense isn't effective. I can't take the stupidity...really. I swear if I didn't have a life, I'd keep a list of every last one of you that are dissing Kirk and I would look at every post that you write for the next month. Everytime you say anything negative about the team, I would nail you with comments about being a traitor. Anytime you'd analyze a part of the team...I would make sure you practically got a doctorate at that position to make sure you were qualified to HAVE an opinion.

Dang it Mili...I need a sedative. I hold my tounge well, but these guys make me want to break into a swearing fit. Maybe you could throw in a few for me in your next post.
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OH MY GOD!
WOW, you mean they pay him to criticize OSU? I thought they paid him for making any comment for or against OSU.... or any other football program????????! But I wonder since they pay him to CRITICIZE OSU do they think for him to. Or is he allowed to not comment on this subject and know when..... well ....not to say anything at all about it just like his colleagues don't. Or are you suggesting that he won't get paid if he don't criticise OSU, because his colleagues are getting paid too.:2004:

Faust said:
Herbie is a huge Bengal fan, but that hasn't stopped him from criticizing them when they deserved it - which has been often. Obviously, I'm not equating Ohio State with the Bengals in terms of success, but you get the idea. His comments about the Buckeye offense are completely within the realm of reasonable discourse. We do the same thing with this forum all the time. Herbie was correct to point out that an offense like this has the potential to hurt recruiting. Kudos to Geiger in his overall handling of the Clarett problem, but he's being thin-skinned re Herbstreit.


Another analogy: SEINFELD may be my favorite TV show, but that doesn't change the fact that the last season blew, IMO.
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well put! however I applaud Geiger this time for not laying down.
 
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KillerNut said:
What isn't clear?

Here for the ones who are unable to determine

Herbbie=Whinner

Critisism of the offense=Valid

Not defending Ohio State more on bogus alligations=Unacceptable

Clear enough?
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Well lets see now criticizing the offence, hymn, still think it's valid..... because Herbie changed his mind.

GoofyBuckeye said:
Herbie's concerned with his job at ESPN, not OSU. He's said more shit than what's been made public. Geiger has some reasoning behind some of his comments.

Herbstreit has gone out of his way to criticize OSU and some of it's personal to him. If he wants to become a broadcaster, he needs to stay neutral about this stuff and stay out of it.

I've known Herbstreit since he was at Centerville. He's always been a nice guy but he's also had a pretty big head.
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Your right on here Goofy
 
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I have been to every home game this year and 3 away games , and I have never heard anyone say anything bad about our offense. (see sarcasm).

GET REAL people, Herbie is only saying what 99% of everyone else was saying about our offense before the Scum game.

Just like any true OSU fan he wants better for his team.

There I goagain, now I'm a fair weather fan.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Tell you what...when you pick every game correctly, then you can talk shit. Herbstreit has been totally objective is his picks, and he'll be wrong a lot of the times. Keep in mind that he picked us to beat Purdue and we lost...I don't see anyone beating him for that. I'll be very surprised if he picks us this weekend.
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I went to OSU and I even graduated from there Homer. Do you have a crush on Herbie or what freak? I just call it like I see it, If you don't like it TOO FUCKING BAD! eat shit and live moron.
 
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Penguin-BUCK said:
I went to OSU and I even graduated from there Homer. Do you have a crush on Herbie or what freak? I just call it like I see it, If you don't like it TOO FUCKING BAD! eat shit and live moron.
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Well, maybe if you'd pull your head out your ass, fuckwad, you'd see better. I don't give a fuck if you graduated from Ohio State or not. If anyone is being a "homer", it's you for crying like a sissy little fucking girl because Herbstreit doesn't pick us every game or calls the team out...if anyone in broadcasting has the right to call out the team, it would be a former OSU team captain. If you've read my posts in this thread and others concerning Herbstreit, you would've seen that I don't always agree with what he says, but also that I don't get my fucking panties in a knot because he doesn't proclaim us the greatest team of all team every show. To paraphrase what you just told me, "if you don't like what Herbstreit says, too fucking bad". Don't watch GameDay if you can't take it. Fuckin' Nancy boy.
 
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"I don't get my fucking panties in a knot":

Mili, you wear panties?
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Penguin-BUCK said:
I went to OSU and I even graduated from there Homer. Do you have a crush on Herbie or what freak? I just call it like I see it, If you don't like it TOO ****ING BAD! eat **** and live moron.
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The interesting thing about all of this is that you are calling Mili a homer, when you are the one suggesting that the football team is above reproach and that our offense shouldn't be criticized when they don't perform. :roll1:

I didn't graduate from tOSU, I've just been a fan all of my life. My first memories as a child were watching games with my dad. Maybe my philosophy on mediocrity being unacceptable isn't valid to those of you who are alumns...but if being a former Buckeye requires you to be a mindless lemming following a terrible offense off the edge of a cliff, I'm glad I never attended.

I would love to have had a camera in front of your face asking you opinions on Ohio State football just minutes after watching them get blown away by Iowa in the third of a three game losing streak. I'm sure you were nothing but happy with the direction of the team and the program. Herbstreit doesn't pull punches when he analyzes another school, I don't expect him to show favoritism when discussing ours...because that would give him no credibility.

Have a ruby on me for getting this thread started again and proving yourself ignorant by doing it with nothing but name calling. You're true class.
 
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