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Herbstreit in the DOG house..

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Yes, Herbstreit works for ESPN. I would agree with you if Herbstreit DID NOT have personal experience within the buckeye program i.e...being the starting QB. If he was NOT an ex-player, he should stay unbiased. However, the ESPN report is based on former players testimony. He would be the perfect "credible witness" ESPN is lacking with this story. Bottom Line, ESPN would NOT fire Herby for stating his personal knowledge of the program. Gimme a Break. He has more lattitude than he is using. His silence could/has been be viewed by the average College Football fan as suspicious at best.
 
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Quote from Geiger's conference:

“I understand that one of the stars of ESPN Game Day went off on us a bit last night on the air,” Geiger said. “I didn't hear it myself. This is secondhand, that we think we're getting bigger than college football. This is the same individual who, four weeks ago after we lost three straight games said on the air that he didn't see how he could recommend Ohio State to a young man who wants to play offensive football. I'm concerned about that. And the juxtaposition of that and some of the kinds of things I've heard on and off the air with regard to that.
“So our welcome mat is perhaps not as thick as it once was with regard to some of those kinds of things. I don't know who is thinking that they're bigger than the game of football in this particular instance and it bothers me and I'm pretty outspoken about it and I'm pretty outspoken with the Big Ten about it and I talked with the commissioner about it today. I have talked to my colleague athletic directors and I'm not alone in my concern.”
 
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Yes, Herbstreit works for ESPN. I would agree with you if Herbstreit DID NOT have personal experience within the buckeye program i.e...being the starting QB. If he was NOT an ex-player, he should stay unbiased. However, the ESPN report is based on former players testimony. He would be the perfect "credible witness" ESPN is lacking with this story. Bottom Line, ESPN would NOT fire Herby for stating his personal knowledge of the program. Gimme a Break. He has more lattitude than he is using. His silence could/has been be viewed by the average College Football fan as suspicious at best.
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He did state once on the radio show when the allegations first came out that he never saw or knew anything about cars/cash/grades. What is he supposed to do, repeat himself ever 5 minutes when the assholes at Espin run another add or lead-in? I think he is doing the right thing, that said, I didn't like the attitude he took responding to Gieger turning down gameday.


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I know I'm going to get blasted for this but I'm going to say it anyway. I think we, as Ohio State fans, are the people most responsible for the anti-Buckeye slant among certain members of the media. Because of the way we view our football program, we take offense to any public statement that doesn't proclaim our program as God. Trev Alberts didn't have his anti-OSU tag until the Miami prediction (who among you SERIOUSLY were confident we would win that game?). He got DESTROYED by OSU fans calling him an idiot and saying we get no respect, etc. The truth is...if I heard so much crap from a teams fans, I would hope and pray each Saturday that they got beat so I could rub it back in their arrogant faces.

I'm not trying to say it is all our fan's fault, but lets face it...we don't help. The same thing has applied with Herbie. He gets blasted for making an honest (and reasonable) observation on the NC State game, and he is deemed a traitor! He carries a monkey of devoted fans opinions on his back every weekend because he is honest and tries to be objective.

I wholeheartedly agree that ESPN's article is crap and a product of Maurice being an idiot. But we really need to consider not writing every freaking media member that we feel we were slighted by...it really does make us look like whiners that are desperately seeking approval. We are just feeding the flame, and in times like these, where we need friends in the media...we only have people rooting for us to go down.
 
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You don't get it. I am NOT implying Herby has a responsibility to be a tOSU mouthpiece. But, He does have the oppurtunity to defend OSU and he has CHOSEN not to do so. There is HUGE difference between being a tOSU cheerleader every week and defending his alma mater when being attacked with false allegations. I am very disappointed in his silence.
 
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I guess if Herbie doesn't kiss OSU ass then he is a jerk.
He is saying the same things alot of us say. The difference is he has a forum a little bigger than an internet message board.

He loves OSU football, and is passionate about it. He is as sick, and tired as the rest of us as to why this offense sucks so bad.
 
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damn.....this is the reason why the media laughs at us....who really gives a flip what herbie says or what espn says.....

the fact that the buckeye nation gets this out of whack over these things is precisely what renders the buckeye nation a target.....

quit worrying about the media and worry about the team.......
 
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SCBuck said:
You don't get it. I am NOT implying Herby has a responsibility to be a tOSU mouthpiece. But, He does have the oppurtunity to defend OSU and he has CHOSEN not to do so. There is HUGE difference between being a tOSU cheerleader every week and defending his alma mater when being attacked with false allegations. I am very disappointed in his silence.
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You and I share an assumption -that the allegations are false. But it is no less an assumption. Herbie should do his job, which is to report the goings on in football.. the good, the bad and the ugly.

Oiler, I couldn't agree with your assessment more.... You too, Di
 
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Herbie was on Detroit radio today...and this is a synopsis from the BN premium board. He talked for about 15 mins.

On MoC - Has a bad taste in his mouth because of all of the heat from Cbus. Said he might be more welcome in Ann Arbor then Columbus... has even received threats against him. Said his only problem is with the offense and he didn't pull a Robt Smith. Supposedly upset about all of the heat and the annoucers were soncoling him. Herbie said he will always be loyal to tOSU no matter what. Reiterated that he has spoken to numerous former Buckeyes and nobody has heard of anything like what MoC alledges.

On the Offense , he says that Ginn and Holmes would start at USC in a week. The problem at OSU is a horrible line and predictable playcalling. Claimed the line has sucked since Pace left and there has not been a dominant gamechanging back in years...although Pittman has a shot to be great.

On scUM -Said the crowd is the key because the scUM freshman will not be rattled if the crowd gets discouraged after a 3 and out. If scUM D-line dominates it won't matter anyway.
 
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I agree with Herbstreit's comments, and think its refreshing to hear him on GameDay, not being the unapologetic homer like Alberts, May, and Corso are (yeah, who cares about Indiana, but Corso sure does love Florida State). I don't take exception to any of Herbstreit's picks either, even when he favors an OSU opponent, such as NC State. I think he does a good job on GameDay, makes it watchable, and then comes clean on 1460 where he's not on the ESPN payroll and under the national eye.

Regarding the GameDay scenario - not being allowed in Columbus - Geiger said today there were a number of reasons, ESPN's articles not withstanding. The Game is on the national terrorism watch list, and there will be homeland security and massive police security present. Given the riots that occured two years ago and the venom towards ESPN that Geiger says he has noticed this week, he thought it best if GameDay and the ESPN media machine weren't in Columbus. I agree with him. The last thing the city or the university needs right now are 100 cameras filming Buckeye fans tearing apart the GameDay set.
 
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Its probably hard to be Herbie these days...

The last thing the city or the university needs right now are 100 cameras filming Buckeye fans tearing apart the GameDay set.
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Yeah - coz you know it'd be so much better if there were a 1,000 of them.:wink2:

Next time they come here though -- and make no mistake the GameDay clan will return one day -- I want to see at least one sign reading

Believe Nothing You Hear From ESPN .... Or words to that effect...
while cream pies descend on the crew from all directions


Revenge is a dish best served cold -- Sicilian Proverb
 
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OilerBuck said:
It's getting taken out of context. Herbie was responding to a question about the ineffectiveness of our offense and he posed a question about it's effect on recruiting. He said that he didn't know that he could sell the program to a big time offensive recruit. I totally agree. I didn't see any problem with what he said, but there have been major twists on peoples words recently. All Buckeyes are up in arms.
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yep. i like herby to be honest. yes, he is far more outspoken when it comes to tOSU but then.... ALL FANS ARE! ill tell you right now when tressel's play calling blows a game for us i am VERY vocal about it. not because i dislike tressel or the university but because i actually give a damn. herby actually gives a damn about tOSU and opens his mouth when he sees something that troubles him. that doesn't mean i have agreed with everything he has said, but i think he has been as much in our corner as he can be without being considered completely impartial.

can a single person on this entire flippin message board honestly state that if they worked for espn (yeah i know, just imagine for a second) that they would be completely impartial? or only say nice pleasent things about tOSU after being molested by iowa? can any of us state we have never made a post on this board that was anything but 100% supportive of tressel and or OSU?
 
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