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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

He's just politicking for a playoff spot like every coach in his situation does.

Shit, the past couple years Nick Saban has done interviews on every network imaginable to beg for his team to get in despite having 2+ losses :slappy: He'll probably do it again next weekend if/when they lost to Georgia.
Greatest football coach of all time should have lost to fucking 5-6 Auburn today. Shit happens. Day isn’t Saban but by all intents that should have been a career embarrassing loss today for Nicky.

Now, I don’t know how bad shit happens 3 years in a row for Day - that’s an ovious pattern but…you’re dealing with 18-22 year olds for 3-4 hours. And those fuckers have had the best 10-12 hours of game time ever imagined.

It’s gotta run out.
 
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Greatest football coach of all time should have lost to fucking 5-6 Auburn today. Shit happens. Day isn’t Saban but by all intents that should have been a career embarrassing loss today for Nicky.

Now, I don’t know how bad shit happens 3 years in a row for Day - that’s an ovious pattern but…you’re dealing with 18-22 year olds for 3-4 hours. And those fuckers have had the best 10-12 hours of game time ever imagined.

It’s gotta run out.

Or, instead of crazy bad luck, he's just not good enough.

There is that.
 
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Greatest football coach of all time should have lost to fucking 5-6 Auburn today. Shit happens. Day isn’t Saban but by all intents that should have been a career embarrassing loss today for Nicky.

Now, I don’t know how bad shit happens 3 years in a row for Day - that’s an ovious pattern but…you’re dealing with 18-22 year olds for 3-4 hours. And those fuckers have had the best 10-12 hours of game time ever imagined.

It’s gotta run out.
By playing actual good SCUM teams lol. Saban’s dirty secret is he’s never beaten an Auburn team that has won more than 8 games. Kind of crazy to think about but Barn has never consistently been good these past 20 or so, very similar to SCUM.
 
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If not for a shanked chip shot FG last year we are most likely defending national Champs.

Instead we want to fire a coach for going 11-1 this year.

All because when we go to work on Monday there's a Michigan fan and we're tired of his shit.
I agree we need to figure things about and start beating M again Firing Day is not the answer right now. But there can be no doubt that Day has to change something in how he coaches. The BigTen has gotten a lot tougher the past 3 seasons as Michigan has surged….and will continue next year with the 4 PAC powers. We can’t just show up and expect to go 12-0 or 11-1 even.

Day‘s offense has become a little stagnant….relies on generational QB play too much. He absolutely wants to win the big game. But his players seem to not do the little things to win the game that M does……consistently. It’s a trend…..or more…..by now.
 
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We’ll all find out next year, when he loses more starters then in any non-tattoogate year I can remember. In fact, when is the last time?

We replace all three WRs, RB, TE, both Gs, entire d line, both LBs, CB1, 2 S. The secondary is the only group we have clear returning talent and experience in.
 
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We’ll all find out next year, when he loses more starters then in any non-tattoogate year I can remember. In fact, when is the last time?

We replace all three WRs, RB, TE, both Gs, entire d line, both LBs, CB1, 2 S. The secondary is the only group we have clear returning talent and experience in.
If we don’t find big success in the portal at DL, OL, and LB, we will be a big step below this year. Day is losing The Game even with superior talent. Kyle McCord’s problems of this year will only be worse next year if a serious talent replacement/infusion doesn’t happen
 
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If we don’t find big success in the portal at DL, OL, and LB, we will be a big step below this year. Day is losing The Game even with superior talent. Kyle McCord’s problems of this year will only be worse next year if a serious talent replacement/infusion doesn’t happen
Yep. People are acting like next year is a gimmie since UM loses so much. Not the case. We may be the third best team in the conference. "Ohio State doesn't rebuild, they reload".
 
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McCord made a really, really bad play and gave the other team 7 points right from the jump, a hole OSU was trying to dig out of literally the rest of the game and came up just short.

McCord also missed some reads to kill drives throughout the rest of the game. He was a first-year starter, he either gets better as a second-year starter, or someone beats him and the QB position is better next year.

But, otherwise, the offense was moving the ball, scoring points, and playing well enough to win the rest of the game. The play calling on offense was effective outside of McCord’s play in limited situations (I’m specifically thinking of missing a wide open Fleming running a corner route to the end zone).

Day could have been more aggressive at the end of the first half, I get that, but if he fails to get a first down there, there was a real chance UM puts up more points before the half with a few passes.

Hindsight is 20/20 and getting that first down was not a given.

It’s amazing to me how quickly expectations change. How many people were saying this is a 3-4 loss team at the beginning of the year? More than a few. By that metric, Day far exceeded expectations.

Similarly, a microcosm of the instantly changing expectations was in the game, Ohio State was pinned at its own two-yard-line with almost no time left in the first half. Praying to get a first down and not giving up a safety or blocked punt in the end zone was the reasonable expectation there. Instead, McCord makes one of his better plays of the entire game and the expectation instantly flips to getting points before the half, and people thinking Day should be fired because he wasn’t aggressive enough.

I get it. Losing The Game absolutely breaks people’s brains, but there are, in fact, a lot of broken brains here.

It sucks, it absolutely sucks.

Michigan ducked an epic ass beating in 2020 like cowards. That would have made Day 2-0 against ttun.

Day made a horrible DC hire, UM started cheating, the weather was bad, OSU players were sick, and UM was pretty damn good in ‘21.

In ‘22, UM perfected the art of cheating and they had a good QB who has had OSU’s number, OSU’s secondary was decimated by injury, OSU was on its 4th string RB, lost its best player on offense for the season, and the DC was too aggressive.

In ‘23, UM had its best team of a generation, with the experienced QB who had OSU’s number, at home, against an OSU first-year starting QB, Knowles was not aggressive enough, the OSU LB had a robot arm and couldn’t tackle a TE in the open field, the OSU special teams were a mess which left points on the field and utterly failed to pin UM deep when they should have on every punt, the first year starting OSU QB made a game killing mistake early, and OSU still had a legit shot to win at the end of the game.

Call it excuses, whatever. That is what happened. A lot of bad things have lined up against Ohio State for the past four seasons, and talk of being soft, not “getting it,” or whatever is absolute horseshit, in my opinion.

Look at Urban Meyer, who “dominated” the series. OSU won by 5 in ‘12, was fortunate as shit to win in ‘13 with a two-point conversion interception, and again in ‘16 with a 4th down conversion by inches on the game-winning drive. Some bad luck in any of those games and Meyer’s record is practically 50-50, assuming the momentum isn’t completely different in the rest of the games.

Maybe it’s some kind of Ohio magic in there that gets those lucky bounces, but I don’t really think so. Those lucky bounces are about confidence and momentum as much as anything else. Meyer had it and OSU benefited from things going their way.

OSU and Day don’t have it right now, and the bad bounces have stacked up against them.

Next year is lined up exactly opposite to ‘23. UM’s team will be decimated and coming to Columbus with a first-year starting QB. Day HAS to get the momentum back next year, or the narrative changes and even I’ll admit that the only was to get it back would be to make a coaching change.

Day does need to make some moves this off-season. I’m not saying things are fine and Day/OSU just need to wait for UM to be bad.

First with an exclamation point is getting rid of Parker Fleming and adjusting how special teams are coached. Pinning UM deep instead of 35 yards punts to the 30 all day give the defense a much better chance to get stops.

I also think Day needs to make a move with LJ Sr. and DL coaching by moving to someone new who is more on board with Knowle’s overall scheme.

Part of Knowles being able to hit the right level of aggressiveness (too much in ‘22, too little in ‘23) is either 1) implementing the Jack position and the variability/aggressiveness that brings or 2) a coach that can strike a better balance between maintaining gap responsibilities and getting after the QB, which LJ Sr. has not been able to do. The DEs being good against the run, which they have been all season, does not mean they have to be lackluster at getting after the QB. Maybe that’s not having the Jack, maybe that’s the coaching of technique and situational awareness. Either way, moving on from LJ Sr. seems like the move.

That’s my magnum opus on moving forward. Another test for Day will be getting the team ready for whatever bowl game they’re in. I look forward to seeing the future in that game.

Hope springs eternal, and I will always be optimistic for the next wave of talent at Ohio State and their chance to shine next season.
 
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I know people think it’s absurd to want to fire him. We went 11-1!!! Problem is now a days it’s all about winning the big games a national titles. Nobody cares about second rate consolation bowls anymore. Day is showing more and more that he can’t win the big ones
 
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McCord made a really, really bad play and gave the other team 7 points right from the jump, a hole OSU was trying to dig out of literally the rest of the game and came up just short.

McCord also missed some reads to kill drives throughout the rest of the game. He was a first-year starter, he either gets better as a second-year starter, or someone beats him and the QB position is better next year.

But, otherwise, the offense was moving the ball, scoring points, and playing well enough to win the rest of the game. The play calling on offense was effective outside of McCord’s play in limited situations (I’m specifically thinking of missing a wide open Fleming running a corner route to the end zone).

Day could have been more aggressive at the end of the first half, I get that, but if he fails to get a first down there, there was a real chance UM puts up more points before the half with a few passes.

Hindsight is 20/20 and getting that first down was not a given.

It’s amazing to me how quickly expectations change. How many people were saying this is a 3-4 loss team at the beginning of the year? More than a few. By that metric, Day far exceeded expectations.

Similarly, a microcosm of the instantly changing expectations was in the game, Ohio State was pinned at its own two-yard-line with almost no time left in the first half. Praying to get a first down and not giving up a safety or blocked punt in the end zone was the reasonable expectation there. Instead, McCord makes one of his better plays of the entire game and the expectation instantly flips to getting points before the half, and people thinking Day should be fired because he wasn’t aggressive enough.

I get it. Losing The Game absolutely breaks people’s brains, but there are, in fact, a lot of broken brains here.

It sucks, it absolutely sucks.

Michigan ducked an epic ass beating in 2020 like cowards. That would have made Day 2-0 against ttun.

Day made a horrible DC hire, UM started cheating, the weather was bad, OSU players were sick, and UM was pretty damn good in ‘21.

In ‘22, UM perfected the art of cheating and they had a good QB who has had OSU’s number, OSU’s secondary was decimated by injury, OSU was on its 4th string RB, lost its best player on offense for the season, and the DC was too aggressive.

In ‘23, UM had its best team of a generation, with the experienced QB who had OSU’s number, at home, against an OSU first-year starting QB, Knowles was not aggressive enough, the OSU LB had a robot arm and couldn’t tackle a TE in the open field, the OSU special teams were a mess which left points on the field and utterly failed to pin UM deep when they should have on every punt, the first year starting OSU QB made a game killing mistake early, and OSU still had a legit shot to win at the end of the game.

Call it excuses, whatever. That is what happened. A lot of bad things have lined up against Ohio State for the past four seasons, and talk of being soft, not “getting it,” or whatever is absolute horseshit, in my opinion.

Look at Urban Meyer, who “dominated” the series. OSU won by 5 in ‘12, was fortunate as shit to win in ‘13 with a two-point conversion interception, and again in ‘16 with a 4th down conversion by inches on the game-winning drive. Some bad luck in any of those games and Meyer’s record is practically 50-50, assuming the momentum isn’t completely different in the rest of the games.

Maybe it’s some kind of Ohio magic in there that gets those lucky bounces, but I don’t really think so. Those lucky bounces are about confidence and momentum as much as anything else. Meyer had it and OSU benefited from things going there way.

OSU and Day don’t have it right now, and the bad bounces have stacked up against them.

Next year is lined up exactly opposite to ‘23. UM’s team will be decimated and coming to Columbus with a first-year starting QB. Day HAS to get the momentum back next year, or the narrative changes and even I’ll admit that the only was to get it back would be to make a coaching change.

Day does need to make some moves this off-season. I’m not saying things are fine and Day/OSU just need to wait for UM to be bad.

First with an exclamation point is getting rid of Parker Fleming and adjusting how special teams are coached. Pinning UM deep instead of 35 yards punts to the 30 all day give the defense a much better chance to get stops.

I also think Day needs to make a move with LJ Sr. and DL coaching by moving to someone new who is more on board with Knowle’s overall scheme.

Part of Knowles being able to hit the right level of aggressiveness (too much in ‘22, too little in ‘23) is either 1) implementing the Jack position and the variability/aggressiveness that brings or 2) a coach that can strike a better between between maintaining gap responsibilities and getting after the QB, which LJ Sr. has not been able to do. The DEs being good against the run, which they have been all season, does not mean they have to be lackluster at getting after the QB. Maybe that’s not having the Jack, maybe that’s the coaching of technique and situational awareness. Either way, moving on from LJ Sr. seems like the move.

That’s my magnum opus on moving forward. Another test for Day will be getting the team ready for whatever bowl game they’re in. I look forward to seeing the future in that game.

Hope springs eternal, and I will always be optimistic for the next wave of talent at Ohio State and their chance to shine next season.
Good stuff, but you make it sound like yesterday’s game was in a vacuum. Day needs to make sure we are able to adjust during the game. The Tight Ends were killing us. Zero adjustments from what I could tell. Why can’t Day order Knowles to dial it up in spots instead of vanilla to death? The signs of this were present all the way back to ND…..to Md…..to PSU. We can’t say we didn’t see it coming.

The players making mistakes happens. The guys played hard. The coaches coached vanilla. That should have been seen early in the game and adjusted.

Day’s first 4 years had generational talent at QB and WR. We don’t have that this year…..or next, probably. We have time to fix it. Tough decisions need to be made on personnel and coaches. I’m hopeful that Day will do this right. Because 4 losses in a row should be a guaranteed firing. No ifs , ands, or buts.
 
We’ll all find out next year, when he loses more starters then in any non-tattoogate year I can remember. In fact, when is the last time?

We replace all three WRs, RB, TE, both Gs, entire d line, both LBs, CB1, 2 S. The secondary is the only group we have clear returning talent and experience in.
The WRs will be fine.Tate and Inniss are ready to be the next Harrison and Egbuka, and there are a dozen candidates for the third spot. Better QB play, either from McCord in year two or from the QB who beats him, will matter more to the passing game than the talent at WR.

Stover was a great receiving TE. He sucked at run blocking all season. The TE next year doesn’t catch as many balls, that’s a given, but as long as they can run block I really don’t think it matters for the overall effectiveness of the offense. Thurman looks legit and can be a capable starter there, and even a mismatch in the passing game.

I believe the current expectation from OSU insiders is that Jackson returns. He clearly hasn’t played himself into an early round draft pick and it makes sense for him to return and do that next year. LT Simmons, LG Jackson, C Hinzman, RG Fryar, RT Montgomery feels pretty damn good to me. Replace LG with Tshabola and it still feels like a pretty high ceiling in my opinion. Hinzman getting better at C will be huge, and if Simmons stays on his trajectory of improvement that will also be huge.

I look forward to seeing what Hayden can do at RB. Henderson was electric and came on strong at the end of the year, but Hayden looks way more efficient at grinding 5-6 yard carries regularly than Henderson ever has, and Ohio State can build explosiveness around that consistency to make up for the Henderson 60 yard TD that you were always hoping for between the 2-4 yard runs.

The dline is an area that will likely take a step back in terms of talent. See my post above about moving on from LJ Sr. and finding someone who can work together with Knowles to hit the right levels of aggressiveness on D rather than fighting him every step of the way. I also think it’s not completely outside the realm of possibility for someone like Sawyer to return, Curry and Jackson can be serviceable and have playing experience. While Kanu and Malone are capable of popping at DT.

Regardless of how much of a leader Eichenberg was, he was always physically limited, and his warrior mentality to play while hurt almost certainly hurt the team more than it helped. Does anyone think CJ Hicks and Sonny Styles at LB doesn’t have the chance to be significantly more impactful next season? Or flip Cody Simon (if he sticks around) and leave Styles in the secondary. The overall talent will probably be improved at LB with Hicks alone, even if the experience takes a step back.

As you mention, the secondary is full of dogs ready to bite, who have learned the system and should be ready to step in and continue the excellence in the secondary.

TE and DL are the biggest concerns. I don’t see a reason not to be comfortable, if not optimistic, everywhere else.
 
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McCord made a really, really bad play and gave the other team 7 points right from the jump, a hole OSU was trying to dig out of literally the rest of the game and came up just short.

McCord also missed some reads to kill drives throughout the rest of the game. He was a first-year starter, he either gets better as a second-year starter, or someone beats him and the QB position is better next year.
Day has to make the decision on whether McCord will improve on his reads next year or if this who he is. If he moves to change the QB he has two options. 1) start another first year starter that doesn't have any significant playing time or 2) get a gem out of the transfer portal. If he goes the transfer route then McCord would leave and probably Brown as well.
 
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