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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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RugbyBuck said:
I don’t disagree as to any of those teams, BUT do we honestly think we would, not could, beat any of them? Definitely not uga, DeBoers, or the two-headed Sark monster. Probably not cryami.
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Bama was a heartbeat away from losing 4 games in a row, 2 to unranked South Carolina and Vanderbilt.

No one has a reason to be overconfident this year.

Georgia was getting clowned by Bama for half of the game.


Miami beat 3-loss VT by 3 (and gave up a hail mary that didn't count).
Miami beat 4-loss Cal by 1. They were losing by 25. Cal even lost to FSU.
Miami beat 3-loss Lou by 7. They were tied up in the 4th qtr.

I have no idea why Miami is getting the benefit of the doubt here. Especially given how many times Cam Ward has crumbled under pressure (and the sudden willingness of OSU to punish the opposing QB)
 
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Captain Buckeye said:


I thought this was an interesting listen this week. There’s a part in there where they say something just doesn’t feel right but they can’t put their finger on it. That’s sort of how it’s been for 3-4 years now.

The teams have all the talent in the world but just something isn’t clicking and it’s really hard to pin point what that is.
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Well.....for a majority of that time, the thing that wasn't clicking was Michigan had our plays.
 
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jwinslow said:
They're doing 95% of things right, and at a really high level. Everyone has major flaws this year. Miami is laughable. Georgia is occasionally good. Texas less consistently. Bama is doing an homage to a store brand version of 2013 OSU. Before injury, one of OSU's 2-3 flaws was not a liability. But football is a harsh game and now it's a giant issue to shore up.
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Hell, even 100% of what you THINK is right doesn’t guarantee a NC/CFP Championship. Guys like Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron have hoisted the trophy quickly after taking over programs, only to flounder away their jobs in embarrassing fashion.

It’s about doing the what you THINK is right and correcting or minimizing what you were wrong about during the season. He’s proven he’ll step in and send underperforming assistants to the Gulag, but what are they doing during the season to get better? Snap counts don’t align with the plan, Knowles/Johnson haven’t been on the same page since Knowles arrived, our TEs can’t block, we don’t have enough bodies on the OL and we are absent OTs.

Coach Day is a model representative of the university and the HC position. He has adapted admirably to the changing NCAA landscape. He’s a hell of a QB coach and passing game coordinator, and he hired Brian Hartline. That doesn’t mean he’s a NC/CFP Championship coach. Just because he’s the head coach at The Ohio State University doesn’t mean he’s the guy. I’d love to be proved wrong on this, but the data is accumulating.
 
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Poe McKnoe said:
Hell, even 100% of what you THINK is right doesn’t guarantee a NC/CFP Championship. Guys like Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron have hoisted the trophy quickly after taking over programs, only to flounder away their jobs in embarrassing fashion.

It’s about doing the what you THINK is right and correcting or minimizing what you were wrong about during the season. He’s proven he’ll step in and send underperforming assistants to the Gulag, but what are they doing during the season to get better? Snap counts don’t align with the plan, Knowles/Johnson haven’t been on the same page since Knowles arrived, our TEs can’t block, we don’t have enough bodies on the OL and we are absent OTs.

Coach Day is a model representative of the university and the HC position. He has adapted admirably to the changing NCAA landscape. He’s a hell of a QB coach and passing game coordinator, and he hired Brian Hartline. That doesn’t mean he’s a NC/CFP Championship coach. Just because he’s the head coach at The Ohio State University doesn’t mean he’s the guy. I’d love to be proved wrong on this, but the data is accumulating.
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I really hope Ryan Day is the guy. As you say he’s a tremendous representative of the university. I agree he’s not afraid to make moves in the off season but like you mention there’s questionable situations that he could step in with as well.

I think Fryes hire has been pretty bad to be honest. If the kids were crushing it on the field that’d make up for the complete lack of recruiting. However the OL has been a struggle in all facets since he’s been here.

I’m glad you mentioned Jim Knowles’ situation as well. Ryan Day hired him for what he did at Oklahoma State. Then Jim gets here and it seems like he can’t run the fronts he desires. Jim Knowles lead Oklahoma state to a number 1 defense that also was a top defense in sacks and TFLs. Now Jim appears to be deferring to Larry Johnson to appease him. I get we’ve recruited for a 4-3 but you hired Jim to run his system. If he can’t do that completely then why did we hire him?
 
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Steve19 said:
Anyone who thinks Day is not feeling the opportunity and pressure, check out those eyes. I was in the middle of a divorce, running a company growing 1%-3% a day for a sustained period and saw myself on a magazine cover looking like that. That right there is the stress train flying down the track.
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Going through a divorce now, I don't even have a company that's growing, being one of those evil slacker fed employee types, and when I see people they ask me why I look so exhausted.

Day looks spent in a lot of ways and it's very evident when he has to talk in game. I can't imagine he's having a lot of fun.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
I really hope Ryan Day is the guy. As you say he’s a tremendous representative of the university. I agree he’s not afraid to make moves in the off season but like you mention there’s questionable situations that he could step in with as well.

I think Fryes hire has been pretty bad to be honest. If the kids were crushing it on the field that’d make up for the complete lack of recruiting. However the OL has been a struggle in all facets since he’s been here.

I’m glad you mentioned Jim Knowles’ situation as well. Ryan Day hired him for what he did at Oklahoma State. Then Jim gets here and it seems like he can’t run the fronts he desires. Jim Knowles lead Oklahoma state to a number 1 defense that also was a top defense in sacks and TFLs. Now Jim appears to be deferring to Larry Johnson to appease him. I get we’ve recruited for a 4-3 but you hired Jim to run his system. If he can’t do that completely then why did we hire him?
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See, I don't think so. In '22 the OL was fantastic pass blocking, holding their own against a great Georgia front. The run issues stemmed more from your top 3 getting hurt as well as some scheme issues. We all knew the '23 line would be bad, there's not much Frye could've done, but they did improve as the year went on. Especially Simmons. This year they looked to be great, or very good at least, until Simmons went down. And before that there were still problems with individual play, but I was happy with the development of Tshabola and Siereveld.

The main issue with Frye has been evaluating hidden gems and taking enough bodies rather than waiting for your top targets to decide or flip. Which is a bad problem.

At this point it might be better for all parties to move on to avoid the constant questions and hate. If he can find out a way to make this an ok line with the LT situation, though, I'll be impressed.
 
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knuckifyoubuck said:
Wait, his job isn't to win? Oh, well, that explains that. I'm officially retarded all this time.
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And he does - at a winning percentage only bettered by Urban.

It's about perspective. He's right around the mean for Ohio State (historically) outside of Urban, when it comes to "Top 5" games. It should be better, but it isn't. Most non-Saban/Non-Meyer coaches are a lot more like Day than anyone else AND (so far), Day isn't losing to the clearly inferior opponents like Saban and Meyer teams sometimes would.
 
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