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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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sg86 said:
This is such a tired argument. Dan Lanning is a first time head coach at an elite program who started after Day and he coached circles around him on Saturday. A lot of it just comes down to how you are wired.
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Well, I’m not the one making the argument. It’s a reflection of a general statement made often around here.

I’m NOT the one bitching about Day. I’m making observations.

So… feel free if you have someone who is not a first time HC you want to throw in the mix… Feel free to suggest.
 
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sg86 said:
This is such a tired argument. Dan Lanning is a first time head coach at an elite program who started after Day and he coached circles around him on Saturday. A lot of it just comes down to how you are wired.
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Lanning and their staff did a great job with the gameplan. He outcoached Day. He has also won nothing as of yet.

RhodeIslandBuck said:
Sorry, but pregame expectations don't mean squat when you establish a double digit lead in the 4th quarter and blow it. You gotta finish those, I don't give a damn who the opponent is.
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I'm not sure that's true, though. Especially in a game where your already beat up offense loses MHJr. and doesn't even get the benefit of a 1st and goal. Losing your 2nd best player and having the refs step in and overturn a penalty was the turning point in that game. Day didn't lose the lead in a vacuum. OSU hasn't been lucky in these games. Great coaches overcome that, but Day also isn't the reason they're losing. There's a big difference between blowing it, and struggling to find a way to win 1 possession games.

More importantly, Day didn't have the benefit of an even playing field against Michigan to make up for other failures. People will say one thing, but a lot of fans will hold those losses against him forever, regardless of what comes from the investigation, as well as the narratives that insecure Buckeye fans picked up from Michigan coaches and players running their mouths.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
Lanning and their staff did a great job with the gameplan. He outcoached Day. He has also won nothing as of yet.



I'm not sure that's true, though. Especially in a game where your already beat up offense loses MHJr. and doesn't even get the benefit of a 1st and goal. Losing your 2nd best player and having the refs step in and overturn a penalty was the turning point in that game. Day didn't lose the lead in a vacuum. OSU hasn't been lucky in these games. Great coaches overcome that, but Day also isn't the reason they're losing. There's a big difference between blowing it, and struggling to find a way to win 1 possession games.

More importantly, Day didn't have the benefit of an even playing field against Michigan to make up for other failures. People will say one thing, but a lot of fans will hold those losses against him forever, regardless of what comes from the investigation, as well as the narratives that insecure Buckeye fans picked up from Michigan coaches and players running their mouths.
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Look, I'm not in the Fire Day camp yet, although my confidence is almost used up. That being said, there's almost no context where blowing a 4th Q double digit lead is acceptable. Especially in a game of that magnitude. If you're good enough to have a substantial lead in the 4th, you're good enough to finish it off. Just didn't.

Additionally, Day completely botched the end of that game, settling for a 50 something yarder when the Bucks should have absolutely tried to get more yardage. That has nothing to do with Marv being hurt. The Georgia game might actually be the most egregious individual effort when we're talking about Days big game struggles.

Agree to disagree, but most of what you mentioned just sounds like bad excuses to me. Oh well, I have a feeling we'll know everything we need to know about Day at the end of the season, for better or for worse.
 
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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Look, I'm not in the Fire Day camp yet, although my confidence is almost used up. That being said, there's almost no context where blowing a 4th Q double digit lead is acceptable. Especially in a game of that magnitude. If you're good enough to have a substantial lead in the 4th, you're good enough to finish it off. Just didn't.

Additionally, Day completely botched the end of that game, settling for a 50 something yarder when the Bucks should have absolutely tried to get more yardage. That has nothing to do with Marv being hurt. The Georgia game might actually be the most egregious individual effort when we're talking about Days big game struggles.

Agree to disagree, but most of what you mentioned just sounds like bad excuses to me. Oh well, I have a feeling we'll know everything we need to know about Day at the end of the season, for better or for worse.
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Agreed on all points. The only reason I'm not yet in the fire Day club is due not having an Urban Meyer waiting in the wings. Day = Richt. Does well enough to not get fired but never wins anything of significance.
 
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zbuck said:
I want so badly to be wrong. If he can win the BIG and win three more games in the playoffs I'll prepare myself for the monkeys that will fly out of my ass. 8D
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Honestly, same man, Day actually seems like a good dude and he has by no means "crashed the Ferrari". I'm obviously rooting for the guy but the fork in the road is coming. Hoping he steps up and answers the bell.
 
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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Honestly, same man, Day actually seems like a good dude and he has by no means "crashed the Ferrari". I'm obviously rooting for the guy but the fork in the road is coming. Hoping he steps up and answers the bell.
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he hasnt crashed it but he keeps stalling it out
 
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heisman said:
Needs to beat both PSU and tCun to keep the fanbase. If he loses to either, I can't see him recovering. This is his year to get it done. Next year, I expect a significant drop-off in talent/experience.
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That’s funny because I don’t see at the least a lack of CFB experience. There isn’t a position I can think on the team next year that doesn’t have a player that could start that hasn’t been in the program for at least 2yrs, outside of QB and RB. And the possible starter already looks like a stud, and the possible future QB starter has probably the livest arm currently in the room, and has received nothing but rave reviews from coaches and insiders. OSU can easily be right back in the NC and conference championship hunt next season
 
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pnuts34 said:
That’s funny because I don’t see at the least a lack of CFB experience. There isn’t a position I can think on the team next year that doesn’t have a player that could start that hasn’t been in the program for at least 2yrs, outside of QB and RB. And the possible starter already looks like a stud, and the possible future QB starter has probably the livest arm currently in the room, and has received nothing but rave reviews from coaches and insiders. OSU can easily be right back in the NC and conference championship hunt next season
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We are real thin at most of the non skill positions. Being on the team does not equal experience. Check out the snap counts. We haven’t built the proper depth in the trenches whatsoever. They will have to hit the portal pretty hard for the heavy lifters next year.
 
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