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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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System_id said:
To be honest I don’t even know if it’s Frye’s fault or if it’s simply a lack of talent from Studs recruiting misses. Last year I was toying with wanting Walton gone because of the awful CB play yet a year later they were probably the best unit on the team. 2022’s OL was mostly pretty good and an improvement over 2021. Frye’s recruiting hasn’t been great but if the rumors are true about NIL being garbage for OL, then the NIL collectives should be launched into the sun. OL is just a shit show right now and it’s hard to know where the blame lies. I suspect we’ll be having this same convo with whoever replaces LJ when the time comes.
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I agree. I think their C/RG combo tonight was the worst I've seen since some early games in Tressel years. Hinzman wasn't great and neither was Jones, but they were a huge upgrade from tonight. Frye coming or going doesn't change that in my mind.

This whole game was Day trying to cover up for his frosh QB and major holes in the OL room. When your RB has to make calls at the line, you3re in trouble. I wish i understood Xs and Os better to get a feel for whats been off all season and what they need to do for cohesion. I don't think the problem is so much him as a playcaller, as he often comes up with fantastic schemes that put the defense in conflict, including this year against Michigan. But if you have no faith in the core of your offense, there's nowhere to hang your hat and you look like shit. He has to fix it this offseason with 3-4 transfers to give them a shot to build something.

There's a lot of doubt about his ability to figure this out. I want Day to work out at OSU because I think he's close to breaking through (yes, I get that this seems laughable) and I'm not confident in any other names. But Fleming and Dennis must be gone and replaced with JL and a top OC. Him not guaranteeing KM a starting spot knowing his current depth at least tells us he gets the magnitude of what must be done. He could've played it safe, given them a much bigger chance to beat Missouri, and gone into the offseason feeling better for now.

But none of that matters if he can't overhaul the OL and parts of the offense. We'll see if he treats this similarly to end of 2021.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I have no confidence in the NCAA setting things right, but that doesn't change that it needs to be set right. 1-3 is not an accurate representation of what happened any more than Armando Galarraga only threw 8 2/3 of a perfect game.
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No one stepped in and corrected the obvious error against Galarraga. It could've been fixed for obvious reasons, yet history says he never threw a perfect game. I'll believe TCUN's shenanigans are erased when someone actually erases them. Until then, they're part of history.
 
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jakenick06 said:
You’re dead on… he’s not ceo material, at least not yet. This is a masterclass in what lack of true leadership looks like. He’s got to be able to see talent any relinquish responsibility when shit is tough.
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I think he MIGHT be "CEO material"........if he stuck to that and didn't insist on doing two jobs at once. He needs to have a full time OC that is actually performing those duties and doesn't just have the title so OSU can pay him more. ( And that's not a knock on Hartline.....love the guy!)
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
It's really unfortunate timing that Gene is retiring now. Because Day's job should be in question, right now. He shouldn't be getting a free pass into 2024 simply because of an AD change but it appears that is the case.

I say this because OSU should absolutely be reaching out to Mike Vrabel right now and gauging his interest. But it's not going to happen now and it feels like a potentially missed opportunity.
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I just don't see it with Vrabes. He's said several times how much he dislikes recruiting and that he despises the current NIL climate.
 
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Last year Ohio State was a field goal away from winning a national championship, this year they were embarrassed, hopefully that gives Day the motivation to make the changes he needs to.

Let Corey Dennis’ contract expire and hire someone to be an actual QB coach and co-coordinate with Hartline so Day can give up play calling and focus on being the head coach.

Fire Parker Fleming and do something with the extra coaching spot (probably hire Laurinaitis full time).

Move LJ Sr to whatever Laurinaitis is doing now and hire a DL coach who knows how to text recruits and won’t actively fight against the scheme the coordinator wants to run.

Move on from Marroti and bring in some fresh ideas to the strength and conditioning staff.

He’s also got his work cut out for him figuring out the QB situation this off-season, obviously.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Same smoke from the same hole. We’ve heard it all before from Day. We all heard the BS coming out of the bowl practice sessions. We all hear the talk about these guys wanting to come back and finish the right way and the brotherhood.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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What specifically are you referring to? Day cleaned house on defense in 2021 and the results are great. He’s at the same moment now with needed changes… I don’t see why you’d be skeptical he’ll make them.

Regarding the players, there are a million variables in the decisions each of them make and it’s a fools errand trying to look for trends.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
What specifically are you referring to? Day cleaned house on defense in 2021 and the results are great. He’s at the same moment now with needed changes… I don’t see why you’d be skeptical he’ll make them.

Regarding the players, there are a million variables in the decisions each of them make and it’s a fools errand trying to look for trends.
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Day has said the same things before and yet here we are having the same discussion about what changes need to be made.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Day has said the same things before and yet here we are having the same discussion about what changes need to be made.
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As I said in my previous post, they were a field goal away from beating defending champions Georgia. It’s understandable why he felt incremental changes might be enough from ‘22 to ‘23.

In ‘21 he cleaned house on defense like he needed to.
 
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This was Cotton Bowl press conference with Day sitting right next to him, it's like he was giving Day advice directly on giving up play calling to be a better overall head coach. If he doesn't take the lesson he'll be fired and rightfully so.



Coach Drinkwitz: "Yeah, it really began after the bowl game, going back to the month of December. I just -- I wasn't doing the best that I could for our football team. We have a sign in our building that says, "Do your job. Put the team first. Embrace your role. Put the team first." And I wasn't doing that. I wasn't embracing my role as the head coach. I was trying to hold on to my ego of being the play caller.

And I needed to step back and say, the job as a head coach is to build this team, empower other people to do their jobs, and really build connections amongst our players from player-to player, coach-to player, and from our team to our university and community.

It begins with investing in your guys. And I just didn't have the time that I needed to do that. So that really became my mission: How could I support our strength and conditioning athletic performance? How could I be around our players more? How could I engage our coaches more in a real way? How could I engage our players more in a real way to create a more connected team?

Football is a powerful game, and there's always elite teams. But it's really not about elite talent. It's about elite teams. Ryan [Day] alluded to it earlier. When NFL teams get on a run, it's teams that are connected.

And I felt like we needed to be more connected so that when that moment came and we broke through, we would be able to sustain it. And that kind of happened for us after the Kansas State game.

So yeah, it really just came down to me being more of living my integrity, not just talking about it but being about it and putting the team first and embracing my role as the head coach."
 
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Buckeye86 said:
As I said in my previous post, they were a field goal away from beating defending champions Georgia. It’s understandable why he felt incremental changes might be enough from ‘22 to ‘23.

In ‘21 he cleaned house on defense like he needed to.
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I’m saying go back and listen to/read what he says after a loss. Do the same with what comes out of camp, bowl practices, etc. it’s all the same.
 
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buckeyebri said:
I’m saying go back and listen to/read what he says after a loss. Do the same with what comes out of camp, bowl practices, etc. it’s all the same.
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Frankly, I don’t give a fuck what he says in post game (or any other) press conferences. He has no obligation to be candid with the public and I don’t think he is.

Actions speak louder than words. He cleaned house where he needed to in ‘21 and got results. He needs to do that again now. If he doesn’t, my opinion will change drastically.
 
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