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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Agreed 100 percent, that's gonna make a difference, and it's coming soon. I think what annoys me the most about a lot of this discussion is how much people gloss over how many times Urbs and Tress essentially wasted opportunities for championships and playoff appearances by way of coaching. Whether it was through bad hiring or poor game management they both had plenty of stains (see Texas 05, USC 09, Penn State 08, MSU 13 & 15, and the Iowa/Purdue debacles). Still amazing coaches who did unspeakably great things for the program.

Their success against scUM is obviously going to carry the day but again, Tress and Urbs had the luxury of only playing maybe one or two legitimately good Michigan teams. Day has had to deal with the two best Michigan teams we've seen since fucking Clinton, it's not an excuse, but context does matter.

I'm not saying Day's the guy for sure, I think the rest of this season will really determine his standing in the long term. He's not perfect but he's certainly done enough to warrant a wait and see approach as opposed to the pitchforks people were breaking out on Saturday night.
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The first paragraph 100%. I am a young fan as well at the ripe age of 35, but I don't forget any of those losses either and the squandered opportunities to win a Natty under Tress and UFM. Those guys get passes in hindsight because they beat *ichigan (mind you, mostly awful *ichigan teams) and are from Ohio.

Day gets extra scrutiny without the Ohio ties and losses to *ichigan, the latter being fair to some extent except that its being brought up not for the point of discussion after the ND win, but rather to bitch and carry on personal narratives. We all know he needs to beat ttun, but lets talk about that in November. And as you said, the last two ttun teams were legit for once in a long time. Obviously not directed at you and I am really just agreeing, but I just came into this thread expecting to see folks applauding Day, not burying him into the ground with doubt and tired rhetoric.

1926Buckeyes said:
Because it's not just asking questions. It's beating a top 10 team in the exact fashion people wanted to see OSU win (punching the ball in the endzone at the most critical moment) and people immediately saying he's not the guy, I'm off the Day wagon, now he's too animated and it's weird.

Nothing is going to change until he beats Michigan and wins an NC because that's the job. But it's insane to watch that game, see the ending, and in that moment be thinking "Wow, he still hasn't beaten Michigan and won an NC".
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That is my exact problem. Give the man some fucking credit for a hard fought win and doing what everyone was clamoring for to win the game. It was not a perfectly called game, but none of them are and he did what he needed when it mattered and kept his young QB collected enough to win a big game on the road.

In terms of his post game reaction, I loved to see a Ryan Day fired up with piss and vinegar. I don't think that was manufactured at all, I think he was stoked out of his mind to win like that and was telling the rest of the world he doesn't give a shit about what they think of him or his players/staff...isn't that exactly what we were dying to see? I saw it in the UGA game and now the ND game, I want to see that in the big games when the situation calls for it. If we trounced ND, you wouldn't have seen that response.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If we’re going to use his record then use it with some proper context.

He’s 1-2 in The Game
He’s 1-3 in CFP games

He’s 1-0 in non CFP Bowl games
He’s 4-0 against Penn State
He’s 2-0 vs ND

There is a big difference in level of competition from that first grouping to the second.

If the expectation is to win The Game, win the B1G and compete for NC’s then he’s clearly deficient.

If the goal is to be better than the James Franklin and Marcus Freemans of CFB then he’s great.

No one should give a shit about 40 some odd wins against the Indiana types. You are supposed to win those.
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This is a good point but I think it’s also noteworthy to see how quickly programs can fall from grace. Look how Texas and USC were essentially dormant from 2006 to basically last year. Miami?

I understand you should win games in which your favored but we’ve seen programs have dark periods wherein they’ve lost a lot of games they should be winning. I think it says something that Day hasn’t lost the games other programs have taken for granted.

I’m just saying I appreciate the sustained high bar (not saying you don’t)
 
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MGMT said:
This is a good point but I think it’s also noteworthy to see how quickly programs can fall from grace. Look how Texas and USC were essentially dormant from 2006 to basically last year. Miami?

I understand you should win games in which your favored but we’ve seen programs have dark periods wherein they’ve lost a lot of games they should be winning. I think it says something that Day hasn’t lost the games other programs have taken for granted.

I’m just saying I appreciate the sustained high bar (not saying you don’t)
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Does that say something about his coaching or the Urban installed recruiting train? I mean, he has a ridiculous talent advantage in 99% of games.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Into the boundary, no less. On a shortened field.
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Well that is my biggest gripe to the point that nobody who regularly watches a game with me can stand it, but I can't help but lose my mind. The tosses and jet sweeps to the short side of the field legitimately never work, EVER. I refuse to believe that we don't have the analytics and stats to show Day that the play simply does not work, yet we keep running it. It's become the Dave of my existence post-Tressel and I never want to see it run again. It is just mind boggling and we keep doing it.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Well that is my biggest gripe to the point that nobody who regularly watches a game with me can stand it, but I can't help but lose my mind. The tosses and jet sweeps to the short side of the field legitimately never work, EVER. I refuse to believe that we don't have the analytics and stats to show Day that the play simply does not work, yet we keep running it. It's become the Dave of my existence post-Tressel and I never want to see it run again. It is just mind boggling and we keep doing it.
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The awful predictable WR screens that rarely worked have been shockingly absent so far this year. I guess they've loaded up on more Jet Sweeps and that RB Toss play to make up for it.
 
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gmen6981 said:
Klatt has a lot here on Saturday's game, but at the 24:10 mark he talks about Day's comments "rant" post game. Have to admit I agree with him.

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Listened to this. Really good. And a really good perspective on Ryan Day’s outburst. His guys in the lockerroom probably appreciated Day being a mouthpiece to sound off on all the crap these kids hear. That is what matters - his lockerroom and the brotherhood.

Also, Klatt is so so good. Knows X’s ans O’s. Knows Jimmies and Joes. He knows the analytics (numbers) and the man-alytics (human side of the sport).

Not perfect - he tends to get trapped in one narrative or repeated theme (like targetting) and won’t let it go for 60 minutes. But he’s as good as it gets on TV. Will need to give this show a regular listen.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
You willing to push all your chips in that you can replace him with a coach that has more success?

For real. You are the new AD and landing a high profile gig like this is a culmination of a long hard career.

You willing to bet your career on being able to replace his wins and losses and no scandals with someone who will do better?

Yes or no?

It’s easy to fire him on a message board. WAY different in real life.

No way in hell you make that bet Jax. Absolutely zero chance you do.

So what’s the point of everyone getting riled up about him not being the right guy?
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How many logical fallacies can you jam into one rant man?

A) ain’t my bet to make so…
B) no way to say what bet I would make or wouldn’t make
C) I can only post online in the 10 minutes or so a week I give to this shit. What the hell is this magical unicorn rainbow world of what I’d do in the real world? No shit it’s easier online. That’s our only medium.
D) the point of being riled up is the same as those who are perfectly comfortable with Day. It’s an opinion I come to my online sports bar and post. People have a different one? Fanfuckungtastic. I don’t care.

I give the logic behind it. 90% of the retorts I get are emotional laden nonsense (I am not a real fan, must be a miserable person, always unhappy, who else you going to get,? Blah blah blah). People read a lot of context into the written word that just isnt there.

I don’t mind keeping at it as long as anyone wants to but I’m not getting behind some passive aggressive millennial who can’t win The Game and has a losing record in the CFP because his teams are as insecure as he is until I see him change the results….on the field….in the games that actually matter.
 
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