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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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Jake said:
If Chip gets stuffed on the last play this thread looks a lot different, but he didn't so I'm still enjoying the win.

That said, the 4th and 1 calls were attempts to trick the defense and neither worked. You want to establish toughness? Line up in those situations with Chip and Mayan in the backfield and shove McCord forward, or or give it to the lead back and have the other push him. Don't give me a WR sweep or play action on the goal line with little room to operate.

Thing is, it's hard for a man in his 40s to change how he thinks. Day is Day, but if The Game goes south again and looks like the last two this win over ND will quickly be forgotten.
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I don't want to trick the other team, I want them to know exactly what is coming on 4th and inches and be powerless to stop it. That's Ohio State football, not jet sweeps or some other slow developing shit.
 
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If we’re going to use his record then use it with some proper context.

He’s 1-2 in The Game
He’s 1-3 in CFP games

He’s 1-0 in non CFP Bowl games
He’s 4-0 against Penn State
He’s 2-0 vs ND

There is a big difference in level of competition from that first grouping to the second.

If the expectation is to win The Game, win the B1G and compete for NC’s then he’s clearly deficient.

If the goal is to be better than the James Franklin and Marcus Freemans of CFB then he’s great.

No one should give a shit about 40 some odd wins against the Indiana types. You are supposed to win those.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If we’re going to use his record then use it with some proper context.

He’s 1-2 in The Game
He’s 1-3 in CFP games

He’s 1-0 in non CFP Bowl games
He’s 4-0 against Penn State
He’s 2-0 vs ND

There is a big difference in level of competition from that first grouping to the second.

If the expectation is to win The Game, win the B1G and compete for NC’s then he’s clearly deficient.

If the goal is to be better than the James Franklin and Marcus Freemans of CFB then he’s great.

No one should give a shit about 40 some odd wins against the Indiana types. You are supposed to win those.
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Yep, the goals of the program are beat ttun, win the B1G, and win the natty. Day has 6 consecutive “fails to meet” on his yearly review. Last coach to accomplish that back to back trifecta of failure was John Cooper in 1999 and 2000.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
If we’re going to use his record then use it with some proper context.

He’s 1-2 in The Game
He’s 1-3 in CFP games

He’s 1-0 in non CFP Bowl games
He’s 4-0 against Penn State
He’s 2-0 vs ND

There is a big difference in level of competition from that first grouping to the second.

If the expectation is to win The Game, win the B1G and compete for NC’s then he’s clearly deficient.

If the goal is to be better than the James Franklin and Marcus Freemans of CFB then he’s great.

No one should give a shit about 40 some odd wins against the Indiana types. You are supposed to win those.
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You willing to push all your chips in that you can replace him with a coach that has more success?

For real. You are the new AD and landing a high profile gig like this is a culmination of a long hard career.

You willing to bet your career on being able to replace his wins and losses and no scandals with someone who will do better?

Yes or no?

It’s easy to fire him on a message board. WAY different in real life.

No way in hell you make that bet Jax. Absolutely zero chance you do.

So what’s the point of everyone getting riled up about him not being the right guy?
 
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Ryan Day is an excellent head coach. He will get you 11-12 wins every year. He will beat most of the teams he should beat. He won't embarrass you with seasons like scUM has had the last two decades. His record against his chief rival and in championship situations is not good thus far. Could that change? I hope so. But what matters at tOSU is The Game and Championships. He has two straight failures of those standards. I hope he figures out this scUM bugaboo, because dropping 3 straight after we won 18 of 20 and 9 in a row (I count their white flag in 2020 as a win) would be unacceptable and I couldn't care less what his record against Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska, and Rutgers is. Notre Dame wins are fun, but mean a helluva lot less than that game at the bottom of the schedule every year.
 
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Ryan Day is a good football coach and a good dude. He knows ball. He knows how to scheme to win games.

What last night proved is that he’s massively insecure. He’s committed to a running style that doesn’t really fit the strengths of our line or our RB1 because he wants to run downhill and look tough. He calls bad plays in short yardage situations because he feels like he has to look really clever. The Holtz rant was just the icing on the cake that reinforced it all.

He really thinks he came out and proved the narrative wrong last night and all he really did was confirm for all of those people that he’s the massive goober they thought he was.

He needs a little arrogance to him and maybe Saturday will give him that.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
It’s not so much “who else can you hire?” as it is a statistical gamble when talking replacement wins/losses with a new regime.

You are taking a big gamble, statistically speaking, on replacing those wins/losses if you fire Day and try to improve.

To borrower a poker analogy, the pot odds on that bet are tough to swallow.

You better be damn sure.
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Exactly, I have concerns about Day as much as anyone but there's a huge risk we end up getting Nebraska'd.

For years under Pelini they were a strong team, never elite but always a tough game. 9-3, 10-3, 9-4, however, they were not satisfying the fan base. They wanted juuuuuust a little more than what they were getting and before you know it, irrelevant within years.

While I don't think the chance of losing records and embarrassing losses is gonna be quite as high, if we ditch Day we absolutely run the risk of entering that middling 9-3/8-4 category. I'd rather be 11-1 with a loss to TTUN than an irrelevant 8-4 regardless of the outcome of the game.

Maybe it's just me being a younger fan, but as time goes on and the structure of CFB changes, the Michigan game WILL become less important, whether we as fans like it or not, and at this point that absolutely works in Day's favor.

Hoping the Bucks can just skullfuck the weasels in Ann Arbor and make this discussion irrelevant.
 
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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Exactly, I have concerns about Day as much as anyone but there's a huge risk we end up getting Nebraska'd.

For years under Pelini they were a strong team, never elite but always a tough game. 9-3, 10-3, 9-4, however, they were not satisfying the fan base. They wanted juuuuuust a little more than what they were getting and before you know it, irrelevant within years.

While I don't think the chance of losing records and embarrassing losses is gonna be quite as high, if we ditch Day we absolutely run the risk of entering that middling 9-3/8-4 category. I'd rather be 11-1 with a loss to TTUN than an irrelevant 8-4 regardless of the outcome of the game.

Maybe it's just me being a younger fan, but as time goes on and the structure of CFB changes, the Michigan game WILL become less important, whether we as fans like it or not, and at this point that absolutely works in Day's favor.

Hoping the Bucks can just skullfuck the weasels in Ann Arbor and make this discussion irrelevant.
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So no Earle Bruce?
 
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