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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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Loved going back to the fake. Hate they dicked around on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1. Stop the shotgun stuff there.

Needed to find a way to get 10-15 more yards late. Run the regular offense and don’t bottle up with 2 timeouts.

He brought the emotion and fire. The team responded but ultimately this was a winnable game that they lost and there are clear decisions that led to it.

I love Ryan Day. I think there is a LOT of good but he’s learning on the job still and that’s scary vs coaches that have experience.

Where we go next with him comes down to next November and that’s it - maybe the ND game leans it one way or the other, but I won’t feel good again until a W in The Game.
 
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The only thing that jumped out as frustrating was shelling up late on the last drive and playing it safe - understandable though and hindsight will do that.

Compared to last year, I'm not any more for or against Coach Day. He made some tough staff choices last year which was commendable, and the prep and in-game adjustments against Georgia were light years ahead of the Michigan game. If he can carry that momentum into next year and the defense can take a step forward (which I think it will, especially if we can steal one or both of Carter/Cypress) I'll be happy. He has a big unknown at QB and that might actually help spark some further creativity with not being able to rely on the pocket game as much.
 
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I think what makes me get so mad at the coaches is… I just love these players, man. These are 18 and 19 year olds at the absolute top of their field. They are more professional at that age at what they do than I will be in my career field in my whole life. They are the best collection of players in cfb, without a doubt, and they gave EVERYTHING last night. So when I see them coming home empty-handed basically because the coach got scared/conservative and put them in a position to lose… my heart hurts for them so much.
 
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MGMT said:
I can’t be too mad at him because you can score 40 points and reasonably expect to not lose but there we go
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He’s the head coach, he’s responsible for the defense too. This is why him calling plays and focusing almost exclusively on the offense is maddening. Could we be a more balanced team if the HC spent half his time on the defense? At this rate, we’ll never know.
 
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Bucklion said:
He’s the head coach, he’s responsible for the defense too. This is why him calling plays and focusing almost exclusively on the offense is maddening. Could we be a more balanced team if the HC spent half his time on the defense? At this rate, we’ll never know.
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Did you not pay attention when he was meddling with the defense and every game they were telling us he wanted his D coordinators to run single high?

I love the man for the way he represents the program and the way he preps for a game given a month off.

But you don't want him spending his time on D. You'd think such a great Offensive mind would be helpful on D but sheez like Riley it's not. He made the right decision this year to hire someone and then get the fuck out of the way. Whether he hired the right person is plenty debatable but it's clear he made the right decision otherwise
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I think I have collected my thoughts well enough to throw out a little summary here. All in all, I feel a little better about Day but there are still some big, nagging questions.

Let me start with what I feel better about: Two of my biggest concerns with Day were his game planning and his leadership of the team (what kind of personality a team has is 100% a reflection of their leader). The game last night at least showed that he can put together an excellent offensive game plan and that his team will play hard and lay it out there. I will comment on Stroud in his own thread but he was special. This gives me a lot more hope moving forward that his QB & WR centric offense is the right way to go schematically and that he can get his team to recognize a big game and have them play accordingly.

That said, I still have questions/concerns.
  • Knowles was his hand picked hire to unfuck the defense. Mission unaccomplished.
  • You can focus on all the "if not for this/but for that" stuff in any one game but his team just found a way to lose again.
  • 4 years officially in the books now and no NC, 1-2 vs tsun...you can't just gloss over that
So here is my fear, 4 years in and we see enough to tease us into thinking he's the guy because an Ohio State offense has never looked like this and "this" is the modern game. It is the way forward imo. But what if he can't get back on top of the Rivalry? What if we keep having these kind of moral victories instead of real ones in the CFP? What happens to defensive recruiting, or the program in general, if this drags out from 4-5 years to 7-8-9 years? This is the Cooper nigtmare scenario.

I know he isn't going anywhere in '23 and I know there is tremendous risk in making a coaching change BUT we can't keep moving the goal line and just hoping he gets better. In '23 he's going to have a new QB and a new OL with probably a similarly shittastic defense. He's got to go on the road vs Notre Dame and tsun. It will be easy to continue to make excuses if he comes up short in those games and I think it's probably time to stop doing that.

Wanting continuity at HC and to be an elite offensive team makes me, mostly, want him to stay but his choice of defensive coordinator and his team's overall ability to find ways to lose big games leave room for a lot of doubt.

Kudos to him for a great game plan last night and also for getting his guys to play hard as hell but it was still a loss and he's burned a lot of benefit of the doubt with the last two years of The Game.
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This is where I am. I want to make it clear, I am NOT saying he should be fired. What I am saying, as somebody who lived through John Cooper, is that I am EXTREMELY concerned where we are heading as a program. Since beating Clemson in the CFB playoff, his record in "big games" is terrible...
  • Blown out by Bammer in the championship game.
  • Whooped at home by a pretty good Oregon team.
  • Lost to scUM
  • Humiliated by scUM AT HOME
  • Found a way to lose last night even after building a 14 point 4th quarter lead. I don't care if was close. I don't do "moral victories." This is Ohio State, all that matters are results.
Some people might want to say "what about Notre Dame?" Well, while beating ND is always fun, we quickly found out after that game that ND wasn't very good, didn't we?

As Urban Meyer's guys have left the program, something painfully familiar is creeping in. He has a QB that said losing to ttun doesn't define them. Sorry, it just does. There were so many "Cooper moments" in The Game this year that everyone should be alarmed. And while they certainly performed better last night, we still have a defense that went to sleep in the fourth quarter and some of the same play calling frustration reared it's ugly head and the last 8 or so minutes last night.

There are positives to build off of from last night in 2023. But the defensive roster is extremely concerning. I'm very concerned that that and the defensive staff are going to be a huge issue again next year. And we break in a new QB who isn't going to have much game action because Day refused to give McCord any decent playing time this year. I hope it gets sorted out.
 
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brodybuck21 said:
2 biggest games of year ttun and GA

1st half = we outscored them 48-41
2nd half = we were outscored 46-16

1 offensive td in 2nd half combined
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It's the pattern we discussed before the game with Ryan Day's teams so far.

They win with the big run, early giving them a 2-3 TD lead and then the pressure/havoc defense stuff works and the offense can keep swinging with no pressure to hold serve. It's worked twice against teams that could have beaten OSU, Clemson in '20 and MSU in '21. The rest of the time, if he's only slightly ahead at the half, some doors tend to get blown off in the second half.

I believe in the game thread I gave it about a 25-30% chance of happening. It didn't and we lost.

The real knife twist, is that you can almost always see how close he comes to blowing it open early.
 
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Bucklion said:
He’s the head coach, he’s responsible for the defense too. This is why him calling plays and focusing almost exclusively on the offense is maddening. Could we be a more balanced team if the HC spent half his time on the defense? At this rate, we’ll never know.
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Didn't Rich Rod hire a Defensive Coordinator when he went to Michigan and told him what scheme to run?
 
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