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Gene Smith (Former AD, ‘10 AD of the Year, '13 NAAC Organizational Leadership Award)

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ORD_Buckeye said:
I said it in the game thread last night. These were Southern officials, and they were going to look out for the Southern team. They were SEC officials, and they were going to look out for espn's interests. There's no god damned reason that we shouldn't have had a PAC crew. It's one thing to screw up a call on the field, but when you're blatantly ignoring the very basis of the replay rule to favor one team, don't tell me it's not deliberate. I hope LSU beats the crap out of Clemson, but I won't be watching.
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I'm with you man. As soon as I heard that we had SEC officials, I was worried because Clemson might as well be the in SSS-EEE-SAY. People can call me biased all they want, but the fumble call from the booth was a deliberate and purposeful attempt to try and help Clemson. No unbiased person in their rightful mind overturns that call. Fucking unbelievable. Here Clemson, us SEC officials can help another southern school get into the finals and we'll do it. Our team could have overcame it and won, but shit... we don't need the refs taking points off the board that we earned when we're playing Clemson.
 
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From 1980 to 1999 an SEC team won the National title FOUR times!!!

1980 - Georgia
1992 - Alabama
1996 - Florida
1998 - Tennessee

From 2000-2019 an SEC team has won the title 10 times with a chance to make it 11 if LSU gets it done. It’ll actually be (10) titles since 2006 if LSU gets it done. It’s a great conference no doubt, but let’s take a deeper dive.

Interestingly, the Big 10 Network was announced in June of 2006 to the shock of many. The Big 10 was formally getting into bed with Fox Sports. Fox Sports owned the Network rights and would get special considerations on TV scheduling. Those considerations have increased as time has gone by. But 2006 is really the “ground zero” here.

After launching a successful conference Network and for the first time putting some pressure on ESPN/ABC giant, the “Mothership” went to work. The approached both the Big 12 and SEC about conference networks as will as continuing their standard partnership of weekly games. By 2012 it was announced the SEC Network would launch on ESPN in 2013. The ACC Network went live this year. Last week, it was announced CBS has pulled out of future negotiations for the SEC game of the week, which will now also be carried exclusively by ESPN/ABC. The SEC Network and ACC Network are run out of ESPNU based in Charlotte, NC.

So what happened around 2006 that saw such a huge increase in SEC titles?

Fear.

ESPN identified then they could get left in dust on college football. It was a surging sport and they lost the biggest fish at the time. Knowing they missed the boat they set their sites on different conferences. Once agreements are in place, it’s just politics. ESPN turns into an echo-chamber of anti-Big 10 propoganda about lack of speed and athletes. The SEC is elite. They need (2)!!! teams in playoff they’re so good! Now we are getting similar treatment with a shitty ACC Conference that will begin getting same treatment as SEC. Also keep in mind ESPN/SEC launched their network just prior to the College football playoff. The BCS era was a little different in that formulas were put in place, but you could honestly already see the narrative taking shape as they’d try influencing voters (coaches and AP). Big 10 corn-fed, plodding, non skilled guys....can’t keep up with “southern speed”.

It’s an arms race. And honestly, whoever takes the CFB rights in 2025 (keep in mind each conference has to sign on), but depending on Network, it makes a huge difference in outcomes.

You think if Fox owns playoff rights this year, OSU is the #2 seed? Hell no.

You think in 2017, the year the Big 10 went 7-1 in Bowl Games, and was almost unanimously lauded as being the best conference, they would’ve been blanked from the playoff? If Fox owned the rights, hell no.

It’s a shitty spot for the players and fans. The schools get their $$$$....and it’s a lot. But it comes at the sacrifice of a fair shake at the playoffs. Keep in mind they put a 1 loss OSU behind a 2 loss Georgia last year. That’s how biased this shit is. It’s egregious. And it comes across as conspiratorial, but I’m telling you, there are higher ups at OSU pissed over the entire process. They feel like too many things have happened to be coincidental. And when you’re taking about BILLIONS on dollars at stake, sometimes things really just start looking rotten.

I just really hope, assuming ESPN gets contract in 2025, and I fully expect them too based on how they’re attacking the college football market, that before the Big 10 signs on, they think long and hard about whether it’s worth it and if they could create some type of alternative bowl process (perhaps with other leagues) not only as a fuck you to ESPN, but in the interest of protecting their own backside. We are 100% a thorn in their side right now.....u think ESPN likes seeing Fox Sports ratings going through the roof? Hell no.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
Delaney has hurt this conference so much with regards to competing at the highest level. Dude pimped us out with absolutely no regard for competition. He's a POS.
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It’s crazy how much the narrative has flipped on him.

He won a battle but lost the war IMO.

While he has made the Big 10 the richest conference through television money, and really started the conference network trend, he got absolutely played by ESPN on the CFP. I’m not sure how he didn’t see the massive conflict of interest before his eyes.....it’s been a disaster for the Big 10.

But the $$$ keeps rolling in from Fox and maybe that’s all he cares about.
 
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billmac91 said:
From 1980 to 1999 an SEC team won the National title FOUR times!!!

1980 - Georgia
1992 - Alabama
1996 - Florida
1998 - Tennessee

From 2000-2019 an SEC team has won the title 10 times with a chance to make it 11 if LSU gets it done. It’ll actually be (10) titles since 2006 if LSU gets it done. It’s a great conference no doubt, but let’s take a deeper dive.

Interestingly, the Big 10 Network was announced in June of 2006 to the shock of many. The Big 10 was formally getting into bed with Fox Sports. Fox Sports owned the Network rights and would get special considerations on TV scheduling. Those considerations have increased as time has gone by. But 2006 is really the “ground zero” here.

After launching a successful conference Network and for the first time putting some pressure on ESPN/ABC giant, the “Mothership” went to work. The approached both the Big 12 and SEC about conference networks as will as continuing their standard partnership of weekly games. By 2012 it was announced the SEC Network would launch on ESPN in 2013. The ACC Network went live this year. Last week, it was announced CBS has pulled out of future negotiations for the SEC game of the week, which will now also be carried exclusively by ESPN/ABC. The SEC Network and ACC Network are run out of ESPNU based in Charlotte, NC.

So what happened around 2006 that saw such a huge increase in SEC titles?

Fear.

ESPN identified then they could get left in dust on college football. It was a surging sport and they lost the biggest fish at the time. Knowing they missed the boat they set their sites on different conferences. Once agreements are in place, it’s just politics. ESPN turns into an echo-chamber of anti-Big 10 propoganda about lack of speed and athletes. The SEC is elite. They need (2)!!! teams in playoff they’re so good! Now we are getting similar treatment with a shitty ACC Conference that will begin getting same treatment as SEC. Also keep in mind ESPN/SEC launched their network just prior to the College football playoff. The BCS era was a little different in that formulas were put in place, but you could honestly already see the narrative taking shape as they’d try influencing voters (coaches and AP). Big 10 corn-fed, plodding, non skilled guys....can’t keep up with “southern speed”.

It’s an arms race. And honestly, whoever takes the CFB rights in 2025 (keep in mind each conference has to sign on), but depending on Network, it makes a huge difference in outcomes.

You think if Fox owns playoff rights this year, OSU is the #2 seed? Hell no.

You think in 2017, the year the Big 10 went 7-1 in Bowl Games, and was almost unanimously lauded as being the best conference, they would’ve been blanked from the playoff? If Fox owned the rights, hell no.

It’s a shitty spot for the players and fans. The schools get their $$$$....and it’s a lot. But it comes at the sacrifice of a fair shake at the playoffs. Keep in mind they put a 1 loss OSU behind a 2 loss Georgia last year. That’s how biased this shit is. It’s egregious. And it comes across as conspiratorial, but I’m telling you, there are higher ups at OSU pissed over the entire process. They feel like too many things have happened to be coincidental. And when you’re taking about BILLIONS on dollars at stake, sometimes things really just start looking rotten.

I just really hope, assuming ESPN gets contract in 2025, and I fully expect them too based on how they’re attacking the college football market, that before the Big 10 signs on, they think long and hard about whether it’s worth it and if they could create some type of alternative bowl process (perhaps with other leagues) not only as a fuck you to ESPN, but in the interest of protecting their own backside. We are 100% a thorn in their side right now.....u think ESPN likes seeing Fox Sports ratings going through the roof? Hell no.
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As always follow the money.

Who stands to benefit if the SEC wins? The same mother fuckers who run the damn playoff to begin with.

The information kids hear is vital and that's what happened post 2006. They heard how the big ten is slow and that the best football is in the south. They've heard it so much so that it started to actually influence kids to those schools. Shoot if I was a recruit I'd go to Alabama over Ohio State if I had heard how the media portrays our conference.

It does sound like a conspiracy but shoot ESPN is just in it to facilitate great sports? Fuck no they're a business that's charged with making profit. If their backed league doesn't do well then neither do they.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
The officials (specially replay) were bad but I chalk it up to incompetence not conspiracy.

OSU has the ball in its hands with two chances to win at the end. They punted once and made a mental error the second time.

Ref whining is for BWI and our bitches in AA. Winning teams find a way to overcome it.
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It was a catch.
 
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bukIpower said:
As always follow the money.

Who stands to benefit if the SEC wins? The same mother fuckers who run the damn playoff to begin with.

The information kids hear is vital and that's what happened post 2006. They heard how the big ten is slow and that the best football is in the south. They've heard it so much so that it started to actually influence kids to those schools. Shoot if I was a recruit I'd go to Alabama over Ohio State if I had heard how the media portrays our conference.

It does sound like a conspiracy but shoot ESPN is just in it to facilitate great sports? Fuck no they're a business that's charged with making profit. If their backed league doesn't do well then neither do they.
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Fuck 2006. This goes back to 1979, when E!SPiN was an upstart cable sports network. They knew they needed college football, but ND, the B1G, the PAC, and the Big 8 all had national coverage deals with the big three networks. The SEC was hot garbage in 1979. It was hot garbage for most of the '80s, too, as was the ACC. (Was the ACC even a thing before Free Shoes?)

But E!SPiN hitched their wagon to the SEC, because that garbage conference was the only one they could sign up. And they've been riding and pimping that horse for FORTY FUCKING YEARS.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
Fuck 2006. This goes back to 1979, when E!SPiN was an upstart cable sports network. They knew they needed college football, but ND, the B1G, the PAC, and the Big 8 all had national coverage deals with the big three networks. The SEC was hot garbage in 1979. It was hot garbage for most of the '80s, too, as was the ACC. (Was the ACC even a thing before Free Shoes?)

But E!SPiN hitched their wagon to the SEC, because that garbage conference was the only one they could sign up. And they've been riding and pimping that horse for FORTY FUCKING YEARS.
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This.
 
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Well, and this is probably not the right thread, I hope Urban makes it his new mission to turn Big Noon Kickoff into the premier college football show. Having Gus as the number 1 play caller, and Klatt as his color man (I know, Klatt is a shill, but he's our shill, and he's good at it) also helps. It's as simple as that.. put out a better product and the people will come.
 
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I think Gene needs to be talking to the other ADs behind the scenes, and talking to Fox and the PAC-12 and the BIG XII that's not Texas about how to stop espn from dominating and controlling the Bowl/Playoff system after 2025, when the current agreement ends.

Don't let Disney/espn own all of the playoff bowls, and dump the 'committee' concept.
 
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BB73 said:
I think Gene needs to be talking to the other ADs behind the scenes, and talking to Fox and the PAC-12 and the BIG XIi that's not Texas about how to stop espn from dominating and controlling the Bowl/Playoff system after 2025, when the current agreement ends.

Don't let Disney/espn own all of the playoff bowls, and dump the 'committee' concept.
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I was thinking about this as well. They could even threaten to separate themselves from the SEC/ACC and create their own system.
 
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BB73 said:
I think Gene needs to be talking to the other ADs behind the scenes, and talking to Fox and the PAC-12 and the BIG XIi that's not Texas about how to stop espn from dominating and controlling the Bowl/Playoff system after 2025, when the current agreement ends.

Don't let Disney/espn own all of the playoff bowls, and dump the 'committee' concept.
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Agree. The failure in ESPN's model is they are limiting themselves to the south east region. No one in California is gonna watch that. No one is Nebraska... Hell, with the exception of the shills in Bristol, no one in New England. Which is to say, they will fail because, even to the extent that beat Delany in the longer game, they will lose the war for alienating 75% of the nation.
 
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