Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
The Gator Bowl, with tOSU playing Florida, is ranked as the 11th best of the 35 bowl games. From CollegeFootballNews.com.
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HorseshoeFetish
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Gatorubet;2059169; said:
I'll have to take your word on it..I threw up in my mouth a little as soon as the page loaded.
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Urban won two national titles and rescued you from the Ron Zook era.Gatorubet;2059163; said:FYI, reported that Urban and Boom had a less than pleasant phone call about M&M's departure, that resulted in Urban hanging up on him. Don't know if that is true, but several sources are talking about it. I think that Boom might be trying to use the departure of the old Meyer staff as a rallying point for the troops - trying to establish an "us versus them" deal, with Urban and the staff who leave being framed as the bad guys. Not a bad ploy. A "we'll show them!" type thing may be what he needs to focus the team and bring them together - a sort of final catharsis of the Meyer era and move on to his.
Or, just more nonsense to try to hype an otherwise lackluster 6-6 bowl match-up.
Boom is a Georgia Bulldog with no previous head coaching experience that brought the decided schematic advantage leading to your first non-winning regular season since 1979.
Obviously, it's Urban's fault.
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
I think the game is not the most entertaining, and not the most satisfying to watch from a conference rivaly/interest standpoint, but I think the two teams are in fact the two best teams.Coqui;2059218; said:
I see lots of complaints about the matchup, but almost none that address the fact that the BCS mandate to match the two best teams did not fail. It failed to match the "best game", to be sure, but not the two best teams, IMO. The question of what to do about that is legitimate, if that is what the fans want to see. Beating on the two teams or the SEC for producing them, like some are doing, seems like a misplaced direction given the fact that the BCS was created to pair the two best teams, an entirely different mandate than creating the most interesting game - or a game match up most favored by fans/viewers.
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Gatorubet;2059163; said:FYI, reported that Urban and Boom had a less than pleasant phone call about M&M's departure, that resulted in Urban hanging up on him. Don't know if that is true, but several sources are talking about it. I think that Boom might be trying to use the departure of the old Meyer staff as a rallying point for the troops - trying to establish an "us versus them" deal, with Urban and the staff who leave being framed as the bad guys. Not a bad ploy. A "we'll show them!
Or, just more nonsense to try to hype an otherwise lackluster 6-6 bowl match-up.
Muschamp would be a fool to not use the ploy, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Gators played better than they have all year.
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Gatorubet;2059163; said:FYI, reported that Urban and Boom had a less than pleasant phone call about M&M's departure, that resulted in Urban hanging up on him. Don't know if that is true, but several sources are talking about it. I think that Boom might be trying to use the departure of the old Meyer staff as a rallying point for the troops - trying to establish an "us versus them" deal, with Urban and the staff who leave being framed as the bad guys. Not a bad ploy. A "we'll show them!
Or, just more nonsense to try to hype an otherwise lackluster 6-6 bowl match-up.
DaddyBigBucks;2059232; said:
Every football game is "us vs. them" so yeah, this is probably a pretty good idea.
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
You know what I mean in the context of Urban and Muschamp. Old regime versus new regime. Old ways versus new ways. Old coaches leaving the program - then taking coaches from the program after having an office at UF after leaving and declaring that he could now every see himself coaching anywhere but UF. Boom is no doubt portraying that as disrespect for the current and remaining Gators. He is trying to make this an emotional rivalry game when there is little else out there to get the players up for it.jlb1705;2059237; said:
This is like the stuff Meyer would try to do - Urb loved to create bulletin board drama to motivate his guys.
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Well it would certainly add more parallels between our two programs (at least this season, since Urban is basically just a recruiter until afterwards)
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Gatorubet;2059228; said:
hypothetical question here...lets say Okie State pulls out a double overtime win against Iowa State instead of losing. They would be guarenteed number 2 in the BCS. The fact still remains that they were taken to double overtime by a shitty team. Did the BCS work in this scenario by putting the best two teams together (oOSU and LSU) or it did it fail because Bama got left out.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Mrstickball;2058261; said:
Oklahoma-Iowa is the only game that I see as a sure loss for the Big Ten.
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Gatorubet;2059169; said:
Impressive considering both teams are 6-6, both teams lost their final games, and neither team is ranked. Yet, there will be more of a fan following in this bowl than most other bowls. If not all of them. (Not including BCS)
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Gatorubet
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I think I am not making myself clear. Two issues combined, really. First, what I mean is that everyone signed on to a format. The format was settled long before the controversy. Folks that complain about the format - the format that their program (Okie State) signed on to far in advance - have nothing to gripe about concerning the right of Bama to jump them, although they may have a gripe about the process. You can complain about the unfairness of a law and how it should be changed, but that does not mean the law needs to be changed just for you once it has been in place and you agreed to it before you were affected by it.Tlangs;2059256; said:
And your change of facts would be important if the Coaches Poll and Harris Poll voters thought that significant enough to change their votes. So if they did think it a change that was significant enough to put Okie State ahead of Bama, then I would think that was fine. That is the system.
Second, the fact of the matter is that Bama was put at #2 by every human poll that affects the BCS. The Harris poll had them at #2, as did the Coaches Poll. Plus, Bama was also put at #2 by the AP and the USA Today voters. Every major human poll put Bama first. Every one.
It is bewildering to me that some are claiming what an inside job it was by ESPN to make Bama #2 - when every major human poll picked Bama. But ya know - had they picked Okie State I would be fine with that too. There were arguments both ways. What this is NOT is a travesty of the system. People saying that it is unfathomable to them that Bama is in and Okie Light out is nonsense. We get that you have a preference to see a non-SEC final. I get that an inter-conference final is more "fun", and a non-repeat game more interesting to watch. I, in fact, agree with those who wanted Okie Light. But the fact that Bama was voted #2 by every major human poll makes it at least arguable that they are in fact the #2 team - or at least the number two team under the rules of the system that they agreed to follow before the season started.
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