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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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High Lonesome said:
i hope that you did not think that i was trying to belittle your ooc schedual... I would be willing to bet that you put cuse on your ooc games when they were a top 25 team. I doubt they will be as good when you play them. 3-4 years ago we played UNC in our non confrence games. They were terrible, but we actually schedualed them when they were a top ten team and had a coach by the name of mac...
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No, I didn't take it as belittling at all...my bringing up our OOC future schedule was to show that you can schedule name team in advance, and even if they don't turn out to be national title contenders when you eventually play them, you won't take any heat for playing patsies (like you would for I-AA teams, historically weak I-A teams, etc.). North Carolina is not a bad team historically...while they don't have the marquee value like a Miami, a Texas (in our case), or a USC, it's not like you were scheduling someone like Tulsa or Temple. Hey, we have openings for repeat home/away series in 2012/2013...
 
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I don't know Mil's, the 'cuse isn't a cupcake, but they don't have Jim Brown in their backfield anymore either.
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But they do have "Tha Majuh" as their QB coach. :biggrin: (I hate that nickname by the way. Musberger is a putz)

Hell, he might be OC or even head coach by the time y'all play.

Oh, and Mr. Robinson is a pretty good coach too. So yeah, I'd consider Cuse a pretty big-time OOC matchup.
 
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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]First preview I've seen that has described how Tressel is going to use "exotic" formations and work the offense around Ginn. All of the practices have been very secretive and practice was simplified anytime any outsider was inside the WHAC. The difference between him and Young is that if you shut down Ginn with a double team you leave an AA-caliber (and our best) WR with single coverage as well as the rest of our talented wideouts.

This is gonna be a fantastic game. You have a top-5 OL & DL, we have top-5 WR, LB, and DB. Sounds about like what we've heard from both sides.

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When in a two-receiver formation, the Buckeyes line up with two NC.net preseason all-Americans - Santonio Holmes and Ted Ginn, Jr. Holmes has been limited this spring due to a hamstring injury, but in this system, his team leading 55 receptions are likely to be surpassed come fall. "Mr. Everything" Ted Ginn will line up either in the slot, at flanker, split end, single wing in the backfield, or, heck, even at cornerback on the other side of the ball. Ginn is so gifted that Coach Tressell has literally built this offense around what he can do. Tressell will use exotic formations to spread opponents out while playing hide-n-seek with defenders attempting to key on his prized receiver(s). Junior Roy Hall has more size than any other State WR, a plus for downfield blocking as well as end zone fades. When you factor in emerging deep-threat Anthony Gonzales (two TDs and 22.4 yds in the speedsters eight catches), you see a rather balanced corps. Look for the Buckeye's simpler aerial approach to really develop as these guys all hit the peaks of their college careers simultaneously during this campaign. A 60-40 run-pass ratio in '04 should move closer to 50-50. Even the ole Woody Hayes, with his "three yards and a cloud of dust" approach, could clearly see this writing on any High Street wall. [/font][/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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Since I live in Roanoke, Virginia about 30 minutes away from Va Tech I will say that we'll win for sure in the shoe, but when our bucks come to blacksburgh I'd give the hokies the edge. I've been to about 4 of their games. Last year when they played USC their crowd was the loudest I've ever heard (hopefully that better thange after I go to the Texas Game). Va Tech's problem is staying on top of the rankings when they're predicted to have a good team. Va Tech is almost exactly like our program (it just hasn't had the historical past).

Va Tech has the same offense we do (thats why our coaches met with Frank Beamer over the winter). Plus we've also tried to imulate much of their special teams because they are the best special teams team out their besides our buckeyes in college football. The edge is that our defense is better than theirs but not that much better. I guess what I"m saying is their more than a crap shot IMO infact I kinda wish we didn't schedule them (if they lose my best friend will give me hell).
 
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Whew, what a long, long thread. Okay, so I'm an OU fan, but strangely after OU, I root for Nebraska first and UT second (still hate the buggers, but they're neighbors after all).

You guys keep talking about Vince Young as if he's the most important part of the equation. He's not. Vince Young will do what Vince Young does -- he'll make you key in on him. You might stop him, you might slow him down, you might not, but that will NOT be what is most important.

Everyone keeps forgetting that three out of the five years, UT was within striking distance of OU. Two years, it was ugly.

Big 12 teams are all well and good, but we ALL seem to have a problem in this conference -- we all have friggin glass jaws. Sock us in the mouth HARD, and we drop like a sack of bricks. See OU/UT 2000. See OU/UT 2003. See KSU/OU 2003. See USC/OU 2005.

You want to beat Texas? The key is simple. Shut them down on their first drive. Then score on them. Then shut them down, and score again. You do that, you win. Greg Davis will switch to his fetal-position offense like he always does in hard times, and the rest of the team will follow his lead. And that's game. 63-14, 65-13, 55-19, whatever.

That said, if you fail to do that, I don't care where you play this game, what time you play this game, or anything else -- if you fail to do that, if you let Texas weather the initial storm, you are in real trouble. At that point, I expect 4:3 Texas wins, with the numbers getting better for Texas for every minute that goes by where a knockout punch hasn't been delivered.

In other words, OSU can win this thing in the first two minutes, and by my expectation, will win it or lose it in the first quarter. If you let Texas think they can beat you, there's a very, very good chance they will. Horseshoe at night or not.
 
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I agree with you saying your teams have glass jaws and you need to hit them early, but what you need to take into account is OSU's record in the 4th quarter and the game is on the line.

OSU has thrived in the 4th quarter when the game is either close or the other team is slightly leading. I for one think we will come out and hit them in the mouth, but I'd still give OSU the edge in the 4th quarter if it was close because thats what this team does well.

anyhow welcome to our board and I hope you stick around for the summer to talk some football with us!
 
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Vaevictis said:
Whew, what a long, long thread. Okay, so I'm an OU fan, but strangely after OU, I root for Nebraska first and UT second (still hate the buggers, but they're neighbors after all).

You guys keep talking about Vince Young as if he's the most important part of the equation. He's not. Vince Young will do what Vince Young does -- he'll make you key in on him. You might stop him, you might slow him down, you might not, but that will NOT be what is most important.

Everyone keeps forgetting that three out of the five years, UT was within striking distance of OU. Two years, it was ugly.

Big 12 teams are all well and good, but we ALL seem to have a problem in this conference -- we all have friggin glass jaws. Sock us in the mouth HARD, and we drop like a sack of bricks. See OU/UT 2000. See OU/UT 2003. See KSU/OU 2003. See USC/OU 2005.

You want to beat Texas? The key is simple. Shut them down on their first drive. Then score on them. Then shut them down, and score again. You do that, you win. Greg Davis will switch to his fetal-position offense like he always does in hard times, and the rest of the team will follow his lead. And that's game. 63-14, 65-13, 55-19, whatever.

That said, if you fail to do that, I don't care where you play this game, what time you play this game, or anything else -- if you fail to do that, if you let Texas weather the initial storm, you are in real trouble. At that point, I expect 4:3 Texas wins, with the numbers getting better for Texas for every minute that goes by where a knockout punch hasn't been delivered.

In other words, OSU can win this thing in the first two minutes, and by my expectation, will win it or lose it in the first quarter. If you let Texas think they can beat you, there's a very, very good chance they will. Horseshoe at night or not.
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OK State was up how many points at the half last season? This sounds like an old wive's tale.
 
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LightningRod said:
OK State was up how many points at the half last season? This sounds like an old wive's tale.
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Excellent point, L-Rod. It was 35-7 when Texas scored just before the half to make it 35-14. Texas then scored 42 more in the second half, for a 56-35 final.
 
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Vaevictis,

You just gave an excellent description of how to beat OU, but I think you're running into problems when you try to lump all Big 12 teams together. True, when you hit OU hard early, they can crumble and fold. Look at KState and USC. One of Texas's biggest problems is that their approach to the OU game is to try to just stay in it until the 4th quarter. As your post explains, this approach is deadly against the Sooners. Had they had a more aggressive approach vs. OU, it may have been the Longhorns instead of the Sooners playing USC for the national championship.

But if you look at the OK State, Kansas, and Michigan games, it is clear Texas has no problem coming from behind and winning close games. Texas also overcame a 19-point deficit to win the Holiday Bowl a few years ago. So it is clear Texas can take a hit and swing back.

If Texas comes out of the gate swinging in this year's RRS, there is no question in my mind they should beat OU handliy this year. If not, the streak may indeed extend to six.
 
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Ok State's and Kansas is simple: Texas didn't believe it. When OU comes down and punches Texas in the mouth, Texas "knows" they're in for it.

Ok State and Kansas getting the lead is much easier to put down to "we're playing like a bunch of pansies, now let's get our act together and win this thing." Texas never bought into it. They were a better team than Ok State and Kansas, and knew it. That's like you guys going down 52-7 to Miami (OH). Would you attribute that to Miami being a monster, or to OSU playing like a bunch of junior high schoolers?

Michigan did not play out the way I described. Texas scored first. They held the lead until the end of the second quarter. They knew they could play with these guys, and pulled it out.

You have to SELL Texas on the fact that they're outclassed. If you do that, you win, but you have to do it from the outset. If you let them get any confidence, you're in for a fight. But, some teams cannot be sold on this, some teams have absolutely zero quit. This is not something I have noticed of late in the Big XII. OU has a problem with this, Texas has a problem with this, TAMU has a problem with this, OSU has a problem with this, and ALL of the north has a problem with this. Don't let the guy with the burnt-orange colored glasses fool you into thinking it's an OU only thing.

As far as OSU being good in close games, I will give you that. I am not taking anything away from OSU when I say these things. However, Texas has good enough atheletes that if you let them hang around into the fourth quarter, you could be in for some trouble. With Vince Young on the field, there's always the danger of a quick TD on a broken play, and Texas has been very, very good of late at forcing turnovers.

I'm not a gambling man as a rule, but I'll say it now -- if OSU hammers them early, to the tune of a 14-0 lead in the first 8 minutes -- OSU will win by at least 30 points. If not, the margin of victory will be less than 10, and I will give the slight edge to Texas to win it.
 
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I can take that bet.... I also believe if OSU jumps early on Texas it could be over after the 1st quarter, and if not then yeah I do believe it will be a close game. However, since I'm a OSU fan I'll have to go with a thrilling OSU win in the final minutes if this game is close!! lol

O-H!!!
 
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