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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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well it sound like their game is options, draws, dives, and short passes. So I don't think its totally necessary to spy VY. However, on 3rd downs and Long you better spy him sometimes because you just can't have everyone turn their backs to him. Cuz he will run for that 1st. They should do it sometimes but not all the times.....Mix it up a bit ya know.

Anyhow what do you think Texas has to do to stop our offense? I'm going to say blitz alot and pray their corners can hold up. I think if they give us too much time then we'll definatly pick their secondary apart.
 
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How do you stop Teddy Ginn running across the middle? I say there is no way to cover that, if the QB's timing is on and can get it to him between the zone coverage.

Teddy Ginn can run crazy through zone coverage (ala Michigan State last year) if the QB gets it to him, and there isn't a corner in college football that can stay with him step for step. So good luck stopping Ginn across the middle is all I have to say.

And you can say linebackers putting a big hit on a receiver coming across the middle will stop that pattern, but I haven't seen anyone put a big hit on Teddy Ginn yet, he's probably one of the hardest people to hit in college football because of his elusiveness.

Imagine this scenario: Ginn, Gonzales, and Holmes line up in a bunch formation on the left (or right) side, Holmes runs a post corner, Gonzales runs a hitch, and Ginn goes across the middle. How do you cover that?? The Alamo Bowl proved that the hitch and post corner combination works extremely well. If somehow those two get shut down, just dump if off to Ginn going across the middle and watch him work his magic. I'm so excited for next year. :biggrin:
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I don't think a dominating pass rush is the key to stopping a mobile quarterback. I'd say it has more to do with assignment sound lineman who play their assignment and don't open up large rushing lanes for the mobile QB to get through.

SO not having a dominating pass rush isn't necessarily a bad thing in this case. We just need our lineman to play their assignments and keep VY inside the pocket. If someone gets too ambitious and shoots past VY trying to get a sack, that has the potential for big rush yards from VY.
I agree with you, I said a consistent pass rush, and that the key would be individuals executing their assignments without mental breakdowns. Keeping pressure up the middle and from the DE's will keep VY from picking the D apart with short passes and allow the linebackers to contain him. The more uncomfortable he is in the pocket, the better our chances.
 
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UMStinks said:
I agree with you, I said a consistent pass rush, and that the key would be individuals executing their assignments without mental breakdowns.
Yeah, I kinda jumped the gun a little bit when I responded. When I went back and read it more carefully I noticed I basicly said the same thing as you. Sorry about that.



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Well guess I am one lucky s.o.b. I work at tOSU medcenter and this is the first year I have been eligable to buy staff tickets. Well my like of senority at the hospital left me with a split session for tickets. This means I can only by three games that have been prechosen by the university. They chose by last name just like the alumni tickets.

I got Texas, MSU, and the Illini. I can not express to any of you the excitement and relief I felt after I opened my mail on Friday. I can't wait to see all of you there and Go Bucks!
 
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Cajunbuck said:
Guys, guys, guys!

#1 - The Big 12 is a very overrated conference. They have terrible bowl records in the last 5 years across the board. Their inter-conference competition in the minds of Big 12 fans is second to none. We all know this is incredibly misguided. Their level of play in the Alamo? They looked a tad shell-shocked. Need I mention UT - Texas A&M and of course big tough Bobby Stoops making excuses down in Miami. Texas Tech was the lone bright spot.
#2 - Oklahoma is Texas' big game. I live down here and all the UT fans are talking about is how they can catch Chokelahoma on a down year. (They are truly looking past us.)
#3 - Vince Young is a tool. Michigan gave up in the Rose. It was a defensive pillow fight. Whoever had the ball last was going to win. Vince Young will never win the big game for Texas.
#4 - Mack Brown is the John Cooper of the Big 12. Undisputable.
#5 - Texas just sucks. Period. Their logo looks like a uterus.

Cajunbuck predicts a total shutdown / beatdown of the Longhorns in September. I will put every vbuck I have on it. Total line domination, skill position thrashing, quarterback clinic monster of an ass-whoopin. We are going to the Rose bowl next year! I truly feel that way deep down. We are gonna win another title next year.

Who is with me?

Hope you're right , Cajun! I'm with you. I'm not sure you're right about the wolvies giving up on D (I think their scheming and use of their personnel was the culprit), I loved the rest of your post, and will be rooting for the Bucks to blow up VY, Mack and the whole UT team.
 
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RCollett said:
Well guess I am one lucky s.o.b. I work at tOSU medcenter and this is the first year I have been eligable to buy staff tickets. Well my like of senority at the hospital left me with a split session for tickets. This means I can only by three games that have been prechosen by the university. They chose by last name just like the alumni tickets.

I got Texas, MSU, and the Illini. I can not express to any of you the excitement and relief I felt after I opened my mail on Friday. I can't wait to see all of you there and Go Bucks!
It's a beautiful thing.
 
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vCash and vBets are for fun. the v stands for virtual. We have bets on all the home games, and then a bunch of other stuff, like where big recruits will go, other big games, or random things like where the next pope will be from.

As for the CFN preview it looks pretty accurate.

Both offenses average 8.4 and on defense Texas avg 8.4 and OSU 8.8... sounds very similar to what many of us had been thinking, especially the breakdown of each position.
 
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Texas schools busted

Report: Texas A&M, Texas bought banned supplements
May 9, 2005
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

FORT WORTH, Texas -- Texas and Texas A&M purchased nearly $120,000 in dietary supplements containing ingredients banned by the NCAA for their student-athletes, according to a published report.

Between fall 2000 and spring 2004, the athletic department purchased 21 products containing certain muscle-building ingredients and substances forbidden by the NCAA, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported in its Sunday edition.

The newspaper discovered the purchases through school invoices and documents obtained under the Texas Public Information Act.

David Batson, Texas A&M director of athletic compliance, said the school was not aware that banned ingredients were being purchased until after reviewing records requested by the Star-Telegram.

Batson said he was unaware of any positive drug tests or adverse health issues related to the purchases.

Texas is trying to see if its purchases containing added amino acids -- a muscle-building ingredient -- were made in error, said Tina Bonci, the school's co-director of sports medicine and athletic training.

An NCAA bylaw enacted in August 2000 prohibits schools from giving student-athletes supplements containing certain muscle-building ingredients and substances.

One of the products purchased by Texas A&M, weight-loss supplement MNS Gold, contains synephrine. It is a substance similar to ephedra, the stimulant that has been linked to more than 150 deaths and was taken off the shelves by the federal government in 2003.

Most of the products purchased by Texas A&M were ordered by Mike Clark, who served as the university's assistant athletic director for strength and conditioning before taking a job with the Seattle Seahawks last year.

Clark told the Star-Telegram that he gave the supplements with banned ingredients to student-athletes at Texas A&M. He said he stopped ordering the products when he learned they were banned and removed them from the shelves.

Texas spent nearly $90,000 on supplements labeled as containing added amino acids, the newspaper reported. Among those who made the purchases was Jeff Madden, the school's assistant athletic director for strength and conditioning.

Madden said he ordered the energy drink Jacked, which contains caffeine, but didn't distribute it to student-athletes after learning that it was not allowed.

Bonci said that school personnel believed they were within the rules in purchasing the products containing the added amino acids because of correspondence from a member of the NCAA's membership services staff, Steve Mallonee, describing the products as permissible soon after the bylaw went into effect.

But Mallonee told the Star-Telegram that his approval was based strictly on information submitted by the university, which sought a review of the products based on their percentages of protein and not their actual ingredients.

Under NCAA rules, schools may dispense only four categories of supplements: vitamins and minerals, energy bars, carbohydrate/electrolyte drinks and carbohydrate boosters. The supplements must have a protein content of less than 30 percent and be free of banned substances, as well as certain ingredients defined by the NCAA as muscle-building.

The purchases by Texas and Texas A&M are similar to those Texas Tech acknowledged ordering in a report to the NCAA in February. In its report, Texas Tech revealed it purchased more than a dozen supplements containing the banned ingredients during a 30-month period.

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hmmmmm....
 
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Texas spent nearly $90,000 on supplements labeled as containing added amino acids, the newspaper reported...

Under NCAA rules, schools may dispense only four categories of supplements: vitamins and minerals, energy bars, carbohydrate/electrolyte drinks and carbohydrate boosters. The supplements must have a protein content of less than 30 percent...

So, the mightly NCAA says simple protein drinks, etc., are banned substances? Frickin' ridiculous...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
So, the mightly NCAA says simple protein drinks, etc., are banned substances? Frickin' ridiculous...
I can see ephedra and its similar drugs being banned. They've cost too many lives of athletes trying to get an edge.

I can't see the point in banning known growth aids that have virtually no side effects. I never have taken them, even when in the service though several of my buddies did.

Hell, I read a story not long ago that the second biggest abusers of 'Roids are teenage and pre-teen girls. Where is Congress on that issue?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
So, the mightly NCAA says simple protein drinks, etc., are banned substances? Frickin' ridiculous...
I don't think the rules prohibit protein supplements, they only restrict university athletic departments from distributing them. Going only on the snippet and the wording "schools may dispense only four categories" it would appear there is nothing stopping student athletes from going to their local GNC and picking up some whey powder and making themselves a 1000mg protein shake for breakfast ... the NCAA just doesn't want member universities force feeding this stuff to growing kids.

What was it that OSU gives the football players? I remember reading something about popsicles that were made from baby formula or something?
 
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