Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

[MightbeaBuck]

...Vince young is a tailback playing Q.B. This is the same quarterback who through 2 ints against Rice....

Throwing interceptions, or not, is not the main measure of a good to great quarterback. Winning is. Did they beat rice?
Your argument that Young is a T.B. playing Q.B. is the same that some would have about our own Troy Smith. (Sadly, me included.)

Proving once again the Little 12 is the most overrated conference in the nation.

I think the B12 is overrated, but don't we want our opponents to be awesome? What's the big deal about whipping some namby pampy team? Wouldn't it sound better if the B12 was the best conference, yet the Buckeyes were able to not only beat their best team, but beat them easily?
That's how I looked at Miami for the National Championship. Yet we beat them. And we would have beat them easily if the refs weren't helping them so much.

 

[FadeproofBuck]

Can't wait, I am hoping to grab some tickets to this game, so I can be there to watch the Buckeyes beat the Longhorns!

 

[mlb#59]

my first posting...

Its texas, they've got talent but what do they have in terms of defense? Anybody? No stand out players that I can think of, but then again I don't follow texas recruiting. i I feel too much of the game will be in Youngs hands and don't worry Im gonna make that stadium so friggin loud Vince wont be able to crap.

What does texas have in terms of a RB? It looks like you did your research so I figured Id ask.

Upon further review, I'd much rather beat their team and walk off as friends. Tho I don't think Young is gonna like #47 or #42 very much :)[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the exact same thing. Young's seen good backers (johnson),but has he seen backers that, if he starts to take off down the field, (highly unlikely) will pull a "Super Trooper" stunt on him and pass him and then come back to take his head off? no it think not

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

A typical exchange with a Miami fan - a Yahoo College Football Pickem Message Board recreation.

CanesABlowin: We kick ass. You suck
Response: Nice analysis.
CanesABlowin: You only hate because the Canes are the best
Resp: No, I hate you cause you're a moron
CanesABlowin: We have more National Titles than you
Resp: Did you know football existed before 1983?
CanesABlowin: Fuck you. Besides who wants to talk about ancient history?

After a loss:

*chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp*
Anyone: Hey, where are all those Canes fans?
*chirp* *chirp* *chirp* *chirp*

Typical Bama fan:

BearLives: Roll tide!
Response: Alabama? Brodie Croyle is the best you got? See ya next year.
BearLives: Bama has 122 National Championships this year, 123!
Resp: Dude, Bama's on probation and off to an 0 - 3 start
BearLives: Roll Tide!

Auburn:

WarEagle: War Eagle!
Response: Auburn gonna blow it again this year?
WarEagle: War Eagle! Damn Tiger!

South Carolina:

LispersCocks: Go Cocks!
Response: Ever wonder if people only attend South Carolina so they can get a "cocks" hat?
LispersCocks: Cocks rock!
Response: You said it, fagboy.

Sorry, I digress

 

[sandgk]

The funny thing is that Texas takes critisism, the same way that mich. does from buck fan, all the time whether its aggy calling us tea sippers, or people saying that we have a "go and be seen croud" I will admit that people tend to dress up at texas games but not for the chance to mingle with "it" crowd or pretend we are high society or something. I just think that texas fans think that a football game is a special occasion worthy of looking nice for. It has been said many times that football is a religion in texas so i guess you could call the outfits our "saturdays best" just showing our respect to the game.

HighLonesome - I like that picture you paint of the well dressed fanatics paying homage to the team in the chapel of football love.. You'll get a similar feel from the Buckeye Faithful when you come up north for the game.
Now what I'd like to know is in what numbers do the 'Horns followers travel? I ask because one of the marks of the Buckeyes is the disproportionately large fan contingent we always seem to get in away or neutral site (bowl) games -- classic case in point being the sea of Scarlet that greeted the sCUM south team in the Fiesta Bowl.
Probably Columbus is a tough test, so I'm thinking more of UT vs another Big 12 or other OOC games? Red River Shoot-Out is a special case, am I right, because its an even split on tickets?

Anyway in my book even if your base were only to congregate for games in Austin that's still a major plus for your city -- others include hosting Austin City Limits and playing home to Sandra Bullock.

 

[rocketman]

I always thought that our disproportional fan base at away or neutral games was because we have so many alumni all over the country. I mean, lets face it...we're not exactly a tiny school here. Aren't OSU and Texas #1 and #2 in the nation as far as size?

 

[EngineerHorn]

I think Minnesota just took over first place. For years, it was tOSU and UT at one and two. We have 51k, which includes something like 15k graduate students (which makes us 3rd or 4th based on undergraduate enrollment). How many does tOSU have? I think I remember seeing around 48k, but that was a few years ago.

Right before I left for the Rose Bowl, I was driving back to my house in Austin down I-35 from a hunting trip. This was the day before the Alamo Bowl. I counted 3 cars with tOSU window flags in just 20 minutes on I-35. At first I thought they were alumni who happened to live in Texas, but they all had Ohio plates. That was pretty cool to see.

Texas fans travel pretty well. We'll bring as many people as our ticket allotment allows. 5000 I think. About 10k showed up for the UNC game in Chapel Hill in 2002.

 

[sandgk]

I think Minnesota just took over first place. For years, it was tOSU and UT at one and two. We have 51k, which includes something like 15k graduate students (which makes us 3rd or 4th based on undergraduate enrollment). How many does tOSU have? I think I remember seeing around 48k, but that was a few years ago.

Right before I left for the Rose Bowl, I was driving back to my house in Austin down I-35 from a hunting trip. This was the day before the Alamo Bowl. I counted 3 cars with tOSU window flags in just 20 minutes on I-35. At first I thought they were alumni who happened to live in Texas, but they all had Ohio plates. That was pretty cool to see.

Texas fans travel pretty well. We'll bring as many people as our ticket allotment allows. 5000 I think. About 10k showed up for the UNC game in Chapel Hill in 2002.

EngineerHorn -- Here is the summary info as of Autumn 2004

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</td></tr> <tr> <td width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Total, all campuses [/font]</td> <td width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]58,365[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Men [/font]</td> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]29,006[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="16" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Women [/font]</td> <td height="16" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]29,359[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Undergraduates [/font]</td> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]44,518[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Graduate students [/font]</td> <td width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]10,571[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Professional students [/font]</td> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3,276[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="14" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ohioans [/font]</td> <td height="14" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]46,942[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" height="2" width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Foreign students [/font]</td> <td bgcolor="#ebebeb" height="2" width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4,163[/font]</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="178">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Columbus campus [/font] </td><td width="82">[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]50,995[/font]</td></tr></tbody> </table> If UT is 51K then its pretty darned close I'd say!!
Also -- you are right about the ballooning admissions at U-Minn -- largely due to the high counts of Non-Degree Students in the total (I.e., not going for a degree, registered maybe for lengthy seminar sesions or professional certification) + the large contingent in their Duluth, Crookston and Morris satellites. They show a sigma of 65K, 14K from the satellite campuses, and a total of over 7K "non-degree" students, mostly in Twin Cities.

 

[Yertle]

Maybe we should split this into the:

1. How do I get to the Shoe from the Super 8? thread

and

2. I can't believe how stupid Zurp's friend is! thread.

Although I don't know where the Super 8 is, I'd like to point out that Zurp's friend is a stupid moron. Man, what an idiot! Given your Homer Avatar, you might appreciate that....

I'll tell you Zurp, that guy sure does suck. I mean, I've seen people suck before, but he's the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

 

[Taosman]

As someone who sees and deals with Texans,Oklahomans, and the like, let me say this. Texans are the best people. They now how to have a good time! They take great pride in Texas football and would never admit that any team was better! Their behind Mack Brown cause he's their coach, period. They will acknowledge, at least privately, that they have a coaching problem. They want to blame the offensive coach's for their problems, but the problem is systemic, starting with the guy at the top! Mack Brown has become, "the John Cooper of Texas football"! We all know what that means! Tress and his staff are gonna put on a clinic in September! Texas won't lose big, but they will find a way to lose!

 

[SanClementeBuck]

I'm a big homer for our Bucks for decades, but I love folks from Texas. FWIW, fifty years ago, plus, a good high school friend and I (we lived in Euclid), in summer before our senior year, took Greyhound to Dallas to work the summer at Willard Battery plant. Big adventure for us. On weekends we'd go to Vickery Park swimming pool (don't hold me to spelling here pls), and enjoy the scenery. At a nearby park, we saw high school football players working out as a team...running plays, huddle, sprints, no pads. I thought at the time, "these guys are serious about football." I think folks told us the h.s. team could workout as long as no coaches were present. That scene has always remained in my mind.

And, the Dallas people were cordial and friendly to us two, young, blue-collar kids from Ohio at the time. Very fond memories.

I'm hope'n our Buckeyes will give the stalward Longhorns some memories too.
Maybe not as cordial...in a football sense.

 

[osugrad21]

Mack Brown--Recruiting Expert

Fast start for the Big XII's Coop...

SuperPrep.com


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By Stacey Dean Southwest/Midlands Analyst
Date: Apr 10, 2005

Okay, I think it's time Scout.com mentions the incredible nature of what Mack Brown and Co. are doing this year in recruiting, and what Brown brings to the table as a recruiter, long considered a key ingredient in having a successful and winning program...
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I mean this particular ambassador/head coach/ace recruiter, just two years ago, was collecting prospects like a hot-shot assistant D.A.-turned-defender collects clients... A couple of the pioneers in early recruiting were Joe Paterno and Tom Osbourne. But it did not take long before Brown took the torch and carried early recruiting to new heights. College football analysts and fans alike have witnessed that over the years, especially two seasons ago. But what the crafty Brown did then and what he's doing now is entirely different.

Seventeen Texas Top 100-type commitments in just a couple of months isn’t what you'd necessarily call insane. It's called Mack Brown. Tha Man has academics, facilities, a recent Rose Bowl win and the city of Austin to sell. But face it. Dude is smooth, and a ton of credit goes to him.

Just last year, Virginia's head coach Al Groh was filling up his 2005 class faster than cars lining up for $1.99-a-gallon gasoline. But a Top 5 class for the Cavaliers in the end was a pipe dream. Recruitniks could see that. What I'm simply trying to tell you is the class UT (Brown/Bruce Chambers/Bobby Kennedy) is stockpiling is long on top-of-the-line blue chips...

Scout.com (U.S. Army All-American selection partner) has already sized up and personally evaluated most of the 2006 Horns. Folks, committed prospects named J'Marcus Webb, Eddie Jones, Sergio Kindle, Dustin Earnest, Emmanuel Moody, Derke Robinson, Kenneth Beasley, Phillip Payne, Montre Webber, Vondrell McGee and Lawrence Hunter are slated to challenge for top honors at their respective positions in the Lone Star State, a state producing more D-I talent than any other in the Union...

What Groh did last year with early commits was in fact impressive. But it wasn't a haul full of 3-star, or higher, talent. And, it wasn't as heavy on probable 4 star prospects and potential 5-star contenders. Brown shows the recruiting analysts and college football fans, again, why he's the Mack-Daddy of Recruiting...

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[High Lonesome]

HighLonesome - I like that picture you paint of the well dressed fanatics paying homage to the team in the chapel of football love.. You'll get a similar feel from the Buckeye Faithful when you come up north for the game.
Now what I'd like to know is in what numbers do the 'Horns followers travel? I ask because one of the marks of the Buckeyes is the disproportionately large fan contingent we always seem to get in away or neutral site (bowl) games -- classic case in point being the sea of Scarlet that greeted the sCUM south team in the Fiesta Bowl.
Probably Columbus is a tough test, so I'm thinking more of UT vs another Big 12 or other OOC games? Red River Shoot-Out is a special case, am I right, because its an even split on tickets?

Anyway in my book even if your base were only to congregate for games in Austin that's still a major plus for your city -- others include hosting Austin City Limits and playing home to Sandra Bullock.

Well at the rose bowl we were the "away team" since we were not from a host confrence and had a considerably smaller ticket allotment than mich.;however, we filled over half of the rose bowl. Some people might just right that off as it being our first bcs bowl but I would say that we travel with best of em. As far as reputations go, this is the way that i have always heard it. best travling teams were Nebraska, texas, ou, tosu, and tenn? This going back before the days of the big 12. I cant remember the fith team that was in that group, i know it was from the sec though. It has already been said but Texas and tOSU travel well because of size of the alumni base. Nebraska and ou fans are amazing, in completly different ways. UN fans are the nicest most polite people i have ever met and they love their team and their football. ou is the polar opposite, but they love football too. Also, one of the reasons that Texas got to play in the rose bowl was because they travel so well and by all accounts spend more money than most fan bases. The economic spike that LA saw over new years was huge compared to the one that the fiesta bowl got with utah. The way that i understand it (this all comming from a kid that played for texas and recently graduated) the rose bowl now owes the fiesta a favor.

looking back at some of my posts, I really need to take more time and look at spelling and gramer.

 

[Steve19]

Engineerhorn:

As Sand pointed out, U Minnesota is on four campuses throughout the state. Main campus enrollment is 50,954, which would be comparable to Ohio State's Columbus campus.

Texas and Ohio State are trying to bring student enrollment down. Ohio State is nearly a third down on its baby-boomer heyday of over 70,000 students.

U Texas has dropped this year to 50,377.

OSU administrators probably not very happy to have highest enrollment on one campus in America, even if it is just 50 or so students bigger than UMinn.

 

[High Lonesome]

the figure of 50,377 at texas is only the austin campus. If you are talking about the UT system then it is quite a bit larger. If i am not mistaken the only one larger is the cal system. Texas has been trying to decrease its enrollment at the austin campus by accepting people into the other schools, utsa, utep, ut arlington and so on, as it turns out though most of the kids end up at atm or texas state. This has in turn began to make every other school in the state much more competitive, which is a good thing. atm is now pushing close to the 50,000 mark as well and they are trying to cut back enrolment. tceh still sucks