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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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Bucky Katt said:
I think the UT fans probably have the right to say that about OSU, as well. I have read a lot of posts talking about Haw, Pittman, and Wells resurrecting the running game. While I certainly hope this is the case, I have not seen enough of Pittman (or anything of Haw or M. Wells) to feel completely confident regarding the ground game for this season.
Losing Cedric Benson and hoping that the next guy steps in and plays/develops to a high caliber back that early in the season is agreeably very optimistic.

I think our confidence in the improvement of Ohio State's running game, however, is appropriate for one logical reason. You cannot get much worse than Liedown Loss. What was the number that was thrown out, 475 yards rushing? With a maturing and cohesive offensive line, and the quality of recruits Jim brings in, I think any confidence in our rushing improvement is very logical and defendable.
 
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Found the site I was relying on for my stats the page (or two) before:


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>RECEIVING</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align="right">G</td>--><TD align=right>Rec</TD><TD align=right>Yds</TD><TD align=right>Avg</TD><TD align=right>TD</TD><!--<td align="right">Yd/G</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Tony Jeffery</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>437</TD><TD align=right>13.2</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Bo Scaife</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>26</TD><TD align=right>348</TD><TD align=right>13.4</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>Limas Sweed</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=right>263</TD><TD align=right>11.4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR><TD>Cedric Benson</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>22</TD><TD align=right>179</TD><TD align=right>8.1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></TR><TR bgColor=#dddddd><TD>David Thomas</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><!--<td align=right></td>--><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>376</TD><TD align=right>17.9</TD><TD align=right>4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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A little more info on how we dominated Michigan between their second and third TDs (they scored TDs on drives of 87 and 43 yards in their first two possesions). Here's the drive-by-drive stats from immediately after Michigan's second TD at 6:03 in the 1st quarter:

Michigan's drives:
3 plays, 6 yards 00:53 TOP
3 plays, 8 yards 02:12 TOP
3 plays, 1 yard 01:40 TOP
5 plays, 14 yards 01:05 TOP
3 plays, -4 yards 02:17 TOP
6 plays, 16 yards 02:20 TOP
6 plays, 34 yards 01:52 TOP
4 plays, 21 yards 01:46 TOP (drive continued into 4th qtr)

8 drives, 33 plays, 96 yards, 5 first downs, 14:05 TOP, 0 points

Ohio State's drives:
12 plays, 99 yards 04:35 TOP (TD)
7 plays, 69 yards 02:38 TOP
8 plays, 28 yards 04:30 TOP (FG)
8 plays, 46 yards 01:11 TOP (FG)
3 plays, -3 yards 00:22 TOP
10 plays, 97 yards 06:06 TOP (TD)
Ginn also returned a punt 82 yards for a TD

6 drives, 48 plays, 336 yards, 16 first downs, 19:22 TOP, 27 points
 
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Chalumpa said:
Sorry this thing is so damn long. So I went through some stats from last year (actually a lot of stats) and I’m curious about your home field advantage. I only looked at defensive stats because defense is what I have heard most often from posters as your great home strength. There are a few things that stood out. (the away averages don’t account for neutral sites)

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1)This is the weakest point but still worth noting… I hear that your fans will be jacked since it is going to be a night game and they’ll have had more time to drink and get rowdy. I know there is a difference between night games and <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:time Minute="30" Hour="15">3:30 pm</st1:time> games but you only had two <st1:time Minute="30" Hour="15">3:30</st1:time> games last year and you nearly lost both. Your only two late games last season happened to be your worst home games.

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2) <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 466.3 total ypg last season and your home opponents averaged 350.4 ypg. We were 116 ypg better than your home opponents last season and 60 ypg better than the best single team (Cincinnati, and they padded their stats against crappy Conference USA teams after they played y’all.) This has nothing to do with your defense really except that at home last season it didn’t see any offense as good as ours.

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3)Your opponents averaged 19.1 points per game in their away games and averaged 14.8 points per game at your house. That’s a difference of 4.3 points in your favor. After all of the rhetoric I’ve heard on this site, I was honestly surprised this stat wasn’t greater. Anyways, <st1:State>Texas</st1:State> averaged 32.8 ppg on the road last year and yet posters here say there is no way we will exceed 21 points, 32.8 - 4.3 = 28.5 points. I will concede you did well against two teams, keeping one 15 points under its road average and the other 16 under, these being <st1:City>Cincinnati</ST1:p </st1:City>and <st1:State>Indiana</st1:State>, respectively. <st1:City><ST1:pCincinnati</st1:City> and <st1:State><ST1:pIndiana</st1:State>, however, are not powerhouse teams.

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4) <st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State> had its highest scoring road game (24 pts.) of the season at your place last year. They scored more points in the Shoe than they did at <st1:State><ST1:pArizona</st1:State> (9 pts.), Purdue (17), <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Michigan</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> (14), and <st1:State><ST1:pIowa</st1:State> (7). That’s against two teams with losing records and one with a 7-5 record. <st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</ST1:p</st1:City> and <st1:State>Wisconsin</st1:State> scored more in the Shoe than their away average and <ST1:p<st1:PlaceName>Penn</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>State</st1:PlaceType> equaled their away average.

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5)At home, your close call (<st1:City><ST1:pMarshall</st1:City>) and your loss (<st1:State><ST1:pWisconsin</st1:State>) were both able to rush for more yards than their season average. You had three home games where you allowed the opposing offense to rush for more yards than their season average whereas you only allowed one team (<st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State>) to pass for more yards than their season average. I account the <st1:State><ST1:pMichigan</st1:State> bump in passing from them a) being behind most of the game and b) having the most respectable passing attack of your home opponents. So it seems like the key to beating y’all at home is having a good day rushing the ball. If you’re curious, <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> averaged 302.4 ypg rushing the ball last season (#2 in the nation.)

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I know I’m only looking at last season and that brings me to my question. What aspect of this game would you point to as the reason <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> will have a hard time against your defense?...

Do y’all expect to be significantly better on defense this season than last season? Improved against the run? Is it just home field pride? Is it because it’s a night game? Is it because we’re <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> and you’ll be extra jacked? I’m really not trying to piss people off, but last season it didn’t seem the Shoe was as imposing as y’all are saying it is going to be for <st1:State><ST1:pTexas</st1:State> come September.

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By the way, if anyone has a problem with these stats I got them all from cnnsi.com.
Nahh..I would really rather see OU come in the shoe for a night game if I had
to pick a team from the Big 12 but Texas will do. Have you checked our stats against Big 12 teams say in the last 5 years. I truly hope Texas players come in here with the same confidence you have. I hope there is a sense of OSU being a huge underdog. I would love to see OSU be like a 10 point dog. The Big 12 was suppose to roll the Buckeyes 2003 Kansas State 2004 Oklahoma
State. I made pretty good pocket change on both. The Shoe it self does not
win games but see what your players say about the shoe after the game win or lose. You can look up stats all day long. It's gonna be fun night no matter
what. Please Please God let the Buckeyes be underdogs again.
 
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Chalumpa, you have to remember that last season, when you look at it in its entirety, was a bit of an off year for the Bucks. The reason we're feeling pretty good is that the team, after a very bad streak in mid-season, finished the year playing great football.

To address your question about our D, a major factor is that we were coping with massive losses on our D-line last year; this was the D-line that had been the foundation of our success over the preceding couple of years. It wasn't an easy transition, as the first half of the season attests to, but the new guys started to dominate the line of scrimmage late in the season. It's true on both sides of the ball, but you ask about the defense, the team that finished the season was not the same one that started it. So going in to next year, we have probably the best linebacking corps. in the country. We're returning the majority of starters in the defensive backfield and on the line, and both of those units were playing extremely well at the end of year - and yes, it required some time for them to get to that pont, but they appear to be there.

So while the Bucks' season as a whole last year was so-so (and there were games where our D looked mediocre at best), if you look at the progression throughout the season, and the level of play at the end of the year was a whole different animal (as Mike Hart and Vernand Morency can attest to), and we're expecting that that will carry over and continue to develop next year.
 
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Young preparing for fresh start

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<!-- begin text11 div --><!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline --> Texas coach Mack Brown is not prone to panic, which is a good thing, because tailback Cedric Benson is gone and his heir apparent, Selvin Young, is rehabbing a broken ankle and not even in school.

The coaching staff expects that Young will be in summer school and will be ready to go by the Sept. 3 season opener against Louisiana-Lafayette. But the Longhorns don't know for sure because good health and Young haven't been in the same room very often during his three years in Austin. If Young isn't ready, expect a whole lot of throat clearing and foot shuffling.

For one thing, Young is big (6 feet, 215 pounds) like Benson and has shown that he can run like him. As a freshman in 2002, when Benson came out of the gate slowly, Young all but shared the job with him. For another, if Young isn't available, the tailback most likely will be sophomore Ramonce Taylor, who spent time at tailback and wide receiver last fall. Behind Taylor are the four freshmen the Longhorns signed last month, including Michael Houston of Denver, who has enrolled and is participating in spring ball.

"We put him [Taylor] at tailback for the first seven days of spring practice, and we'll give it another eight," said Brown, who is visiting family in North Carolina this week, "Ramonce has good speed. He's more of a Warrick Dunn type. If he's the guy, we would have to change who we are."

Nothing against Taylor, who is talented, but you don't change unless you have to, which brings the Horns back to Young. He remained healthy as a freshman, rushing for 408 yards and five touchdowns. But his sophomore year has more accurately defined his career.

Early in the year against New Mexico State, Young returned a kickoff and a punt for touchdowns. But a pulled groin muscle knocked him out of two games and hampered him for the last half of the season.

Last fall, Young broke his ankle in the second game of the season against Arkansas. This semester, he is taking classes at Austin Community College to shore up his academics and focus on rehab. It is not uncommon for athletes to go this route; a conference can request a waiver and the NCAA would have to sign off on it.

"His question mark is staying healthy," Brown said. "When I talked to him, he wanted to change his number. 'I'm starting over,' he said. He has been [No.] 3. He came in and wanted 22. That was my high school number, but I don't think that's why he wanted it," Brown said dryly.

"Numbers are important to kids. This is a fresh, new start."

The Longhorns should be as good as they have ever been, which is pretty good, given that they've won 43 games over the last four seasons. Moreover, although Benson will be gone, the four returning starters on the offensive line have a total of 88 career starts.

"The best offensive line we've ever had," Brown said.

Junior quarterback Vince Young is a star, and if he can line up with his close friend and fellow Houstonian at tailback, Brown believes that Texas will have a better chance of maintaining that string of 10-win seasons. The answers, however, won't begin to emerge until the summer.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Found the site I was relying on for my stats the page (or two) before:


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Your stats are fine, I think that they leave out the rose bowl though.

BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
fair enough. I think I was more showing you the defensive force as well as Smith's passing proficiency. But unless you really get into deep details, its unfair for us to be able to use that if you cannot. Very few of the clips were Smith running, whereas most of the Rose Bowl was Young running (and as I've said, why not if the D can't stop it). but I digress

I was moreso showing you more footage in case you had only seen the Alamo Bowl, as OkState is hardly a measuring block.
Hey, and I apreciate the clip. To tell you the truth, I think that I have watched it 5 or 6 times now.

BuckeyefromscUM, thank you for posting that article. I think that it illustrates what we have all been trying to say. I don't know that he is as big of a question mark as they make him look but hey, it is from ESPN isn't it?
 
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Article on Young from Dennis Dodd. He makes an interesting point about VY's 59% completion rate being the career best at Texas.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8345399/1

AUSTIN, Texas -- It started as an informal lunch. Mack Brown and reporters munching on some Mexican in a conference room, talking spring practice.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=150 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD width=150>
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</TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR><TR><TD width=150>Vince Young just might add some larger hardware than the Rose Bowl MVP. (Getty Images) </TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Why, look who just happened to drop by? It's Vince Young.

And he's wanting to chat.

Guess who's Heisman campaign had just been unofficially kicked off?

OK, so it was only March, and there was as much storytellin' as interviewin' that day, but it was convenient that Texas' quarterback was there. It's never too early for these types of things, and Young is is the heart of the most important Texas season in years.

For one, the 'Horns figure to be favored to win the Big 12 (and, by extension, the Oklahoma game). They'll almost certainly start in the preseason top five in the polls.

That's what happens when your quarterback has a breakthrough year, running through a slack-jawed Michigan defense in the Rose Bowl. Young almost single-handedly (and footedly) befuddled the Wolverines with 372 yards in total offense and five touchdowns in the one-point victory. His life is changing so quickly he can barely keep track. Young now suspects his girlfriend of four years was recently approached by an agent's runner. A group of fans wanted to throw him a birthday party -- at which the quarterback would sign autographs for them.

"You'll be walking with friends or at a restaurant and people will come over and want to take a picture," Young said. "The Rose Bowl is over, but it's still like it's yesterday. During spring break in Miami, a lot of folks noticed me down there."

Of course, Orangebloods can't get enough. Their next viewing of actual competition is Saturday in the spring game. From there it's short jump to September, when Young is one of 17 Texas starters trying to improve on last year's 11-1 record and No. 5 finish.

Credit Young, who finally got it in 2004. There were some admitted struggles with Brown and offensive coordinator Greg Davis trying to fit Young, a redshirt junior, into a drop-back box. At some point, all three agreed that it was best to let Young do what he does best.

"When I worked for Coach Switzer, he said, 'Don't ever have a guy in the game if he touches the ball, he can't score with it,'" Brown said. "Vince can take a third-and-7, scramble and throw, or he can run 60 yards."

Michigan never did figure that out. Lloyd Carr chose to concentrate on All-Big 12 running back Cedric Benson. Not a bad strategy, but the Wolverines ignored -- or couldn't account for -- Young, a 6-foot-5, 230-pounder who rushed for a Texas single-game quarterback record 192 yards and four touchdowns. Add a passing touchdown, and Young assembled one of the biggest days ever for a Texas quarterback.

"You know he can run, and you want to help his passing, so subconsciously you're saying, 'This is a known, let's leave it alone,'" Brown said. "But you get to a point where you work so much on the other side (passing) that you take away from the other great gift."

Perception: Young can't throw a beach ball in the ocean.

Fact: He is the most accurate passer in school history after two seasons -- 59 percent.
Perception: Young isn't a clutch player. In the biggest game of the season, he fumbled twice against Oklahoma.

Fact: Young led his team from behind in the season's last six games.

The Oklahoma State comeback was one of the ages. Trailing 35-7 three seconds before halftime, Texas scored seven consecutive touchdowns. Brown missed only three of 21 passes and rushed for 123 yards.

Perception: Young can't read a defense, relying more on his athleticism.

Fact: Young already has been looking at Ohio State film in preparation for one of the season's early Armageddon games, Sept. 10 in Columbus.

"Don't know what kind of defense they're coming at us with," he said. "Might as well get a mental picture of it right now."

First order of business for Texas opponents: Assign a spy to Young, who with his 4.4 speed can bolt at any time. Second, pray.

"(Michigan) tried," Young said, "but I was messing the guy up."

Before that breakout Rose Bowl, Young's legs kept alive Texas' season at Kansas. Facing a fourth-and-18, Young saw the entire defense turn his back on him while it chased receivers. Young pulled the ball down, pump-faked after getting past the line of scrimmage and picked up the first down. Then his arm won it: Young threw a 21-yard touchdown pass to Tony Jeffery for the victory with 11 seconds left.

The only blemish: the Oklahoma game, when he completed only eight of 23 and ran for only 54 yards. Young was sacked three times; two of those took his team out of field goal range in a 12-0 loss.

But that was one heck of a blemish for a program that has endured five consecutive losses to the Sooners. Young is 17-2 as a starter, heading toward becoming the winningest Longhorns quarterback in history. But guess who hung those two losses on him.

"There were some times when Vince probably questioned myself and Greg Davis because it didn't go easily for him," Brown said. "Vince would make great plays, but he wasn't ready to take over the game and lead the team. He became a quarterback instead of a great athlete."

The early struggles led to speculation that Young's professional future was as a receiver. A visit to Steve McNair's camp in high school squashed that. The two became friends after Young became MVP of the camp.

"You hear it all the time (receiver) but I want to be a quarterback," Young said. "Steve McNair inspired me a whole lot."

So does his mother, who calls every morning at 5 o'clock with the Bible verse of the day.

"Sometimes I wake up and listen to her," he said smiling. "Sometimes, I wake up and get it off the answering machine."

The best inspiration might have come from cocksure recruit Ryan Perrilloux. The Louisiana product committed to Texas last year, in part, because Young told him the job would be open after the 2005 season. Young, Perrilloux contended, was headed to the NFL after that.

While Young doesn't dispute telling Perrilloux that, he does say the prodigy has a lot of growing up to do.

"I told him to come here and I'd take him under my wing," Young said. "I'd show him the offense, how to play the game we love to play. Show him how much love you get, how much coaching you get. I told him about the thing he doesn't see."

At the last minute, Perrilloux signed with LSU.

"His head is kind of a little bit big right now," Young said. "I was like that coming in, until I got hit in the head out there in practice. I had to calm down and shut my mouth and learn the game. Until he sees that, sees his first game, gets hit his first practice, he's going to be different."

And way behind a Heisman candidate who's been there, and finally got it.
 
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His only 3 td performance came with 2 INTs against Rice. His two 200 yard performances came with 1 TD and 2 INTs against OkState & Kansas. He had 0 TDs and 2 INTs twice, including one where he only threw for 19 yards.

Those are the reasons we don't respect VY, yet.

<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="626"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ef7321"><td colspan="2">2004 Game Log</td><td colspan="9" align="center">Passing</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Rushing</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#c1c1c1"><td align="left">[font=verdana, arial]DATE & OPP[/font]</td><td align="left">[font=verdana, arial]RESULT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]CMP[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]ATT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YDS[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]CMP%[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YPA[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]TD[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]INT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]SACK[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]RAT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]ATT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YDS[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]AVG[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]TD[/font]</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">9/4 North Texas</td><td align="left">Win 65-0 </td><td>14</td><td>21</td><td>153</td><td>66.7</td><td>7.3</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>143.6</td><td>8</td><td>49</td><td>6.1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">9/11 @Arkansas</td><td align="left">Win 22-20 </td><td>11</td><td>22</td><td>150</td><td>50.0</td><td>6.8</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>137.3</td><td>14</td><td>56</td><td>4.0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">9/25 Rice</td><td align="left">Win 35-13 </td><td>11</td><td>18</td><td>161</td><td>61.1</td><td>8.9</td><td>3</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>169.0</td><td>8</td><td>64</td><td>8.0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">10/2 Baylor</td><td align="left">Win 44-14 </td><td>15</td><td>20</td><td>189</td><td>75.0</td><td>9.5</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>187.4</td><td>5</td><td>55</td><td>11.0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">10/9 @Oklahoma</td><td align="left">Loss 12-0 </td><td>8</td><td>23</td><td>86</td><td>34.8</td><td>3.7</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>66.2</td><td>16</td><td>54</td><td>3.4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">10/16 Missouri</td><td align="left">Win 28-20 </td><td>3</td><td>9</td><td>19</td><td>33.3</td><td>2.1</td><td>0</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>6.6</td><td>5</td><td>53</td><td>10.6</td><td>1</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">10/23 @Texas Tech</td><td align="left">Win 51-21 </td><td>10</td><td>15</td><td>142</td><td>66.7</td><td>9.5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>168.2</td><td>25</td><td>158</td><td>6.3</td><td>4</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">10/30 @Colorado</td><td align="left">Win 31-7 </td><td>8</td><td>15</td><td>71</td><td>53.3</td><td>4.7</td><td>0</td><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>66.4</td><td>15</td><td>68</td><td>4.5</td><td>2</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">11/6 Oklahoma State</td><td align="left">Win 56-35 </td><td>18</td><td>21</td><td>278</td><td>85.7</td><td>13.2</td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>1</td><td>193.6</td><td>12</td><td>123</td><td>10.3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">11/13 @Kansas</td><td align="left">Win 27-23 </td><td>22</td><td>40</td><td>289</td><td>55.0</td><td>7.2</td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>113.9</td><td>19</td><td>114</td><td>6.0</td><td>1</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">11/26 Texas A&M</td><td align="left">Win 26-13 </td><td>12</td><td>18</td><td>131</td><td>66.7</td><td>7.3</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>127.8</td><td>19</td><td>93</td><td>4.9</td><td>1</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ef7321"><td colspan="2">2004 Postseason Game Log</td><td colspan="9" align="center">Passing</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Rushing</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#c1c1c1"><td align="left">[font=verdana, arial]DATE & OPP[/font]</td><td align="left">[font=verdana, arial]RESULT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]CMP[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]ATT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YDS[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]CMP%[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YPA[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]TD[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]INT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]SACK[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]RAT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]ATT[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]YDS[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]AVG[/font]</td><td>[font=verdana, arial]TD[/font]</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">1/1 Michigan</td><td align="left">Win 38-37 </td><td>16</td><td>28</td><td>180</td><td>57.1</td><td>6.4</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>115.8</td><td>21</td><td>192</td><td>9.1</td><td>4</td></tr></tbody> </table>
To be fair here are smith's numbers. They aren't that impressive either, tho you have to remember PSU has no offense so we didn't risk anything. But we are clearly calling the kettle black a little bit, except that smith was nearly perfect in terms of INTs. Also, Texans, I understand that some of VY's INTs weren't his fault but rather the WRs, well Smith would have had only 1 INT vs. purdue if our WRs would have caught the ball that hit them in the hands.

<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="626"> <tbody><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">10/16 @Iowa</td><td align="left">Loss 33-7 </td><td>8</td><td>12</td><td>76</td><td>66.7</td><td>6.3</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>2</td><td>147.4</td><td>6</td><td>7</td><td>1.2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">10/23 Indiana</td><td align="left">Win 30-7 </td><td>12</td><td>24</td><td>161</td><td>50.0</td><td>6.7</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>133.9</td><td>11</td><td>58</td><td>5.3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">10/30 Penn State</td><td align="left">Win 21-10 </td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>59</td><td>75.0</td><td>7.4</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>3</td><td>137.0</td><td>12</td><td>26</td><td>2.2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">11/6 @Michigan State</td><td align="left">Win 32-19 </td><td>13</td><td>21</td><td>138</td><td>61.9</td><td>6.6</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>132.8</td><td>13</td><td>34</td><td>2.6</td><td>0</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="left">11/13 @Purdue</td><td align="left">Loss 24-17 </td><td>14</td><td>29</td><td>192</td><td>48.3</td><td>6.6</td><td>1</td><td>3</td><td>3</td><td>94.6</td><td>16</td><td>62</td><td>3.9</td><td>1</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td align="left">11/20 Michigan</td><td align="left">Win 37-21 </td><td>13</td><td>23</td><td>241</td><td>56.5</td><td>10.5</td><td>2</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>173.2</td><td>18</td><td>145</td><td>8.1</td><td>1</td></tr></tbody> </table>
 
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Well I guess we should just not count any of his rushing td's. Or at least don't give a qb six points for scoring on the ground. You don't have to respect him as a passer.(no one has yet) but I think that you have to respect what he does. maybe you don't, hell I would rather you didn't that helps Texas. Somthing tells me that JT might try to account for him.
 
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