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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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2002UNC said:
If Tressel see that your punter is shaky I guarantee he will come after him. Any punt kicked in the end zone will get pressue. He will not use two guys if he thinks he can block it.
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I don't know where anyone would get the idea that our punter was shaky. McGee has been punting the past two years and has nearly 100 punts to his credit, with only 1 blocked back in 2003. People complain about his average, just under 40 yards, but over half the time he is kicking inside the 20, a tough place to kick for average.

Everyone harps on the kick coverage last year, but we only gave up 17.6 yards a kick of return the year before, when the same kicker, McGee, was healthy. With McGee healthy now and kicking the best he ever has I expect the average yardage we give up will go back to 2003 levels.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
the sad thing is that this thread will most likely take off over the next 2-3 weeks with the game drawing closer and everything like that.
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That thought is frightening. What the hell else is there to say? I hope we aren't arguing about Texas' sorry special teams for 19 more days.
Here's a question for you Longhorns fans:
If, by some miracle on the 10th, you are undefeated going into the RRS and lose to Oklahoma again, is Mack Cooper on the hot seat?
 
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2002UNC said:
Jreal your point is goodbut I think your misunderstanding what JWinslow is trying to say. Winslow is trying to say that brown doesn't care about ST. I have to agree with him. I live in the south and get alot of SEC and B12 games. I watched Texas play 5-6 games last year. I was shocked at how bad your special teams were. Its obvious that Mack doesn't emphasize Special teams. If he doesn't improve drastically Texas will lose by a double-digit margin. We will expose you guys for every other team on your schedule. VT is the only other team taht gets as much from their st as we do.
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The only game you can be remembering is Michigan.

Punter RM placed the ball perfectly many times last year (w/in the 10), whether from the 50 or from the 42 or the 38 (against OU). Opposing team kickoffs didn't get it past the 30 very often. And more times then not we pinned them inside the 5.

Those are some pretty sweeping comments for only watching one game.


Thats like saying Tressel doesn't care about special teams because last year yall ranked 85 in TO margin:

Rank Name Games Fumgain Intgain Gtotal Fumlost Intlost Ltotal Margin Wins Losses Ties
32 Texas 12 10 13 23 7 11 18 .42 11 1 0
85 Ohio St. 12 4 15 19 14 9 23 -.33 8 4

Actually, my comment holds more weight than yours, b/c thats over a whole season not 1 game.
 
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If, by some miracle on the 10th, you are undefeated going into the RRS and lose to Oklahoma again, is Mack Cooper on the hot seat?--Findlay
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If that's our only loss for the year, I'd say...No. Ther's a lot of love for Mack in Austin.Think it would take more than the 6th straight L to ou to get him ousted.
 
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one thing is for certain, the punter has not had to kick in a hostile atmosphere like the shoe, add that to the fact that hes punting to ted ginn the most dangerous returner in the game, and he will definantly feel alot of pressure. especially on a botched snap.
 
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jwinslow said:
Look, I still think Texas could win this game. Your lines are amazing, VY is very talented (he can throw, not great but well enough), and your defense is solid. If Shipley is still ailing, I have more confidence defending your very green passing attack.

Your special teams have had issues covering kicks (both season and practice), and apparently punts (in practice). You have one guy to do kickoffs, FGs, and punts... which while he might be ok sounds to me like Texas is thin on kicking/punting talent.

It just seems to me that your special teams improvements appear to be failing to stop even your backup returners (two guys ran back a punt for a score during one practice report on InsideTexas). I think anyone outside of texas would believe that if your guys can score on returns, than Ginn surely can. And Brown refused to kick away from Breaston all game, so I can't see him refusing to punt to kick/punt to Ginn/Holmes either.

As for the non contact, Jreal, see post #2844. I got it straight from InsideTexas, your scout site. If they are off their rocker, that's fine, but hardly my fault.

UT's bad kickoff coverage games in 2004 (see post #2070)
Michigan - well documented
Kansas - Heaggans, Greg 4 returns 92 yards 45 yds (longest)
OkState - Elliott,Prentis 2 60 46... Jones,Robert 3 81 53 Amendola, Danny 2 51 30
Rice - Andray Downs 1 52 52
N Texas - Moore,Kevin 2 49 34
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N. Texas - Their big returns came in 2nd half when we had lead and Mack was trying to let the depth practice.
Same with Rice

Kansas, we had a breakdown. But we had a breakdown the whole game. I don't know what happened that game. Its like we were playing hungover that game, but we didn't lose a close game the week before, so who knows what was up. But something was.

OK State, most of their big returns came in the 1H.

scarletngrey77 said:
one thing is for certain, the punter has not had to kick in a hostile atmosphere like the shoe, add that to the fact that hes punting to ted ginn the most dangerous returner in the game, and he will definantly feel alot of pressure. especially on a botched snap.
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Umm, Arkansas not a hostile enviornment? You're smoking crack now dude.
 
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ok my bad, i thought the atmosphere at the shoe would be superior to that of arkansas, obviously you've been to both stadiums so you could compare the two.

im not saying he hasnt punted in a hostile environment, im saying he sure as hell hasnt kicked in one that gets as loud and everything as the shoe.

lately i have been completely respectful to the texas posters, so dont play it off like ive been obnoxious or anything like that.
 
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jwinslow said:
jreal I went out of my way a few times to compliment your D even when I was being pretty heated in my distaste for Brown's approach to ST...
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:cheers:

You're one of the levelheaded guys on here Winslow. You guys may win, but at least you acknowledge there's a chance you might lose. One thing's for sure, it will be a great game.

scarletngrey77 said:
ok my bad, i thought the atmosphere at the shoe would be superior to that of arkansas, obviously you've been to both stadiums so you could compare the two.

im not saying he hasnt punted in a hostile environment, im saying he sure as hell hasnt kicked in one that gets as loud and everything as the shoe.

lately i have been completely respectful to the texas posters, so dont play it off like ive been obnoxious or anything like that.
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Sorry for the crack comment. Arkansas was, well, very hostile. Every time they play Texas its like their superbowl. That was the most hostile enviornment I have been to, and I have been to a lot of road games. Of all the games, it would be closer to the Shoe, I presume. And it was a night game. Our special teams in that game was just fine.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
there are more level headed posters on here than you seem to notice, ive come out and said that if our d-line gets knocked off the line of scrimmage than we dont have a chance.
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Yes, you are levelheaded too, I have noticed.

:cheers:

MililaniBuckeye said:
What part of 2002UNC's statement "I watched Texas play 5-6 games last year" is too hard for you to understand?
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I think he's lying. And its oftly strange that he would have watched Rice or UNT, 2 of the games listed, as being ST breakdowns, when they weren't televised.
 
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With the kick/punt blocking talk, I was curious how our recent blocking stats compared.

Texas - 4 blocks in 2004, 12 in 2003
tOSU - 1 block in 2004, 3 in 2003

By the way we got rid of our special teams coordinator for 2004 who was easily the worst coach on staff last year. He failed upward and is now the OC at Notre Dame. I hope none of you are ND fans, because he is not very good.
 
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