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"Shrubbery-like"? Does this mean that he's slow, or that he needs to be pruned? Or that if you don't bring him to me, I'll say "Ni!" again?texasfight06 said:
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hookemhorns2004
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Jamaal Charles would be the one to get the start before any of the other froshTexasize said:
I would take Hawk and Holmes..thats it.jwinslow said:
(OK, Ginn too....) that makes 3 total. I wouldn't take anyone else over who we have.
Milani also thinks the Bucks could shut down the NE Patriots at the Shoe...he needs to put down the crack pipe.Texasize said:
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
reading must not be a strong point of yours hookem, if it was you wouldve read that there was more to it, than what you stated dealing with the new england remark, look it up. if you wouldnt take carpenter than get the hell out of here. he has 30 lbs on your linebackers and is just as fast, its hard to believe a damn word out of your mouth if you would not take bobby carpenter.
sorry these words may seem harsh, but how wouldnt you take carpenter.
its also funny how you wouldnt take nate salley or nick mangold, oh yeah or ashton youboty, they all have a chance to be all americans this year. but i guess texas already has all universe players at those positions.
sorry these words may seem harsh, but how wouldnt you take carpenter.
its also funny how you wouldnt take nate salley or nick mangold, oh yeah or ashton youboty, they all have a chance to be all americans this year. but i guess texas already has all universe players at those positions.
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hookemhorns2004
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I'll take Bobino/Killebrew, Hawk, and Harris combo. Carpenter I could do without. Just MHO.scarletngrey77 said:
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
this must just be an instance of a buckeye fan being less of a homer than a texas fan.
i would gladly take both of your tackles, offensive and defensive, alone with huff to stick at one corner.
i would gladly take both of your tackles, offensive and defensive, alone with huff to stick at one corner.
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hookemhorns2004
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Fair enough. A combo of both teams maybe could hang with the pats...scarletngrey77 said:
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Texas Practice Report August 20th.
Aside from Ramonce's two touches for two TDs and 157 yards on a KO return and an end around, the big surprise was Henry Melton. The 270 (no fat I can see) pound tailback had three carries for 29 yards. He is extremely quick for his size, and very tough to bring down. It looks like Melton will be our short yardage back from day one. Jamaal Charles went 8 for 40 with a TD and looked very impressive gaining most his yards against the second and third teamers. Taylor did not play RB at all and Selvin was only in on a couple plays including a pass catch for a TD. The coaches seemed more intent on sorting out the backups rather than testing the starters.
Vince Young looked sharp going 5 of 7 for 68 yards and a TD (71% 196 QB rating) in a brief appearance. He had a couple nice completions to the TE Thomas and the TD to Selvin. One incompletion was in the back of the end zone to Sweed on a play were he would have walked in for the score if it were a real game. We did not see much of the receivers and Mack reported that was intentional. I guess we won't see the real passing offense until ULaLa. Nordgren struggled throwing against the first team DBs but did well in one drive with the first team. Colt McKoy the Freshman QB also looks like he has potential for down the road.
Shipley was held out of the game as expected. Pittman looked good on a couple pass plays and an end around. Finleyl and Twedie both had good catches form the TE spot. Quan also had a nice grab too, and Colt overthrew him in the end zone on another play. Colt overthrew Nate Jones a couple times, too.
The first team OL looked very good except on one play where Dibbles broke through the line and stopped the fullback, Ahmard Hall, on a third and 1. The defensive line forced a lot of the zone read options to the QB, so a lot of those plays were blown dead prematurely. The young DE Chris Brown had a sack against the 3rd team O-line, and another freshman Roy Miller almost got one. Those two will probably play some this year.
The linebackers came out with Bobino, Kelson, and Harris starting. Harris had a couple good plays including a TFL. Killebrew who played with both first and second teams had a forced fumble against Ahmard Hall. We played 3rd teams so much that the freshman MLB Muckelroy lead the team in tackles. He was on the bubble over whether he plays this year, but may have just won some playing time.
The DBs looked solid. Ross had a nice PBU on the first defensive series. Brown was good in coverage. They even had Cedric Griffin at safety some, as the coaches are looking to have the five best DBs in the game in nickel situations. One of our younger corners Eric Jackson had a couple good break ups for the 2/3rd team. He looks like he is ready to contribute after injury problems in prior years.
I was actually fairly pleased with special teams, compared to the way they looked 8 and 9 days ago. As pointed out above the first teams kickoffs were in the end zone. The first team place kick defense blocked a kick against the scout team blockers, Michael Griffin had the block. The kick unit had their first kick go wide left with Pino kicking, but McGee made two from 37 and 33 yards that were high and long. Pino was the favorite to get the kicking job coming in, but McGee may get it, or at least take all the longer kicks. McGee is showing much better distance at kicks, punts and kickoffs than last year, especially the end of last year when he was suffering from a back injury.
The punt coverage unit did well. The first team forced a fair catch. The scout team gave up an 8 yard return to Ross. Neither Ross or Selvin, the two top punt returners right now, did anything special today.
I was dissapointed the coaches decided not to show more offensively, but that is the way it goes. Overall I was very pleased with the scrimmage.
Aside from Ramonce's two touches for two TDs and 157 yards on a KO return and an end around, the big surprise was Henry Melton. The 270 (no fat I can see) pound tailback had three carries for 29 yards. He is extremely quick for his size, and very tough to bring down. It looks like Melton will be our short yardage back from day one. Jamaal Charles went 8 for 40 with a TD and looked very impressive gaining most his yards against the second and third teamers. Taylor did not play RB at all and Selvin was only in on a couple plays including a pass catch for a TD. The coaches seemed more intent on sorting out the backups rather than testing the starters.
Vince Young looked sharp going 5 of 7 for 68 yards and a TD (71% 196 QB rating) in a brief appearance. He had a couple nice completions to the TE Thomas and the TD to Selvin. One incompletion was in the back of the end zone to Sweed on a play were he would have walked in for the score if it were a real game. We did not see much of the receivers and Mack reported that was intentional. I guess we won't see the real passing offense until ULaLa. Nordgren struggled throwing against the first team DBs but did well in one drive with the first team. Colt McKoy the Freshman QB also looks like he has potential for down the road.
Shipley was held out of the game as expected. Pittman looked good on a couple pass plays and an end around. Finleyl and Twedie both had good catches form the TE spot. Quan also had a nice grab too, and Colt overthrew him in the end zone on another play. Colt overthrew Nate Jones a couple times, too.
The first team OL looked very good except on one play where Dibbles broke through the line and stopped the fullback, Ahmard Hall, on a third and 1. The defensive line forced a lot of the zone read options to the QB, so a lot of those plays were blown dead prematurely. The young DE Chris Brown had a sack against the 3rd team O-line, and another freshman Roy Miller almost got one. Those two will probably play some this year.
The linebackers came out with Bobino, Kelson, and Harris starting. Harris had a couple good plays including a TFL. Killebrew who played with both first and second teams had a forced fumble against Ahmard Hall. We played 3rd teams so much that the freshman MLB Muckelroy lead the team in tackles. He was on the bubble over whether he plays this year, but may have just won some playing time.
The DBs looked solid. Ross had a nice PBU on the first defensive series. Brown was good in coverage. They even had Cedric Griffin at safety some, as the coaches are looking to have the five best DBs in the game in nickel situations. One of our younger corners Eric Jackson had a couple good break ups for the 2/3rd team. He looks like he is ready to contribute after injury problems in prior years.
I was actually fairly pleased with special teams, compared to the way they looked 8 and 9 days ago. As pointed out above the first teams kickoffs were in the end zone. The first team place kick defense blocked a kick against the scout team blockers, Michael Griffin had the block. The kick unit had their first kick go wide left with Pino kicking, but McGee made two from 37 and 33 yards that were high and long. Pino was the favorite to get the kicking job coming in, but McGee may get it, or at least take all the longer kicks. McGee is showing much better distance at kicks, punts and kickoffs than last year, especially the end of last year when he was suffering from a back injury.
The punt coverage unit did well. The first team forced a fair catch. The scout team gave up an 8 yard return to Ross. Neither Ross or Selvin, the two top punt returners right now, did anything special today.
I was dissapointed the coaches decided not to show more offensively, but that is the way it goes. Overall I was very pleased with the scrimmage.
Honestly I think Carpenter would spin down to DE under Chizik, where he would be stiff competition for Robison.hookemhorns2004 said:I'll take Bobino/Killebrew, Hawk, and Harris combo. Carpenter I could do without. Just MHO.
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hookemhorns2004
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2">August 20, 2005
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It may have been a lot more of a tightrope act this time around, but the Ohio State offense managed to stay balanced and keep hold of its coveted scarlet jerseys during the Buckeyes jersey scrimmage Saturday afternoon at Ohio Stadium.
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</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Ohio State coach Jim Tressel was mostly pleased with how his team did during Saturday's scrimmage</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- End JT20 Image-->The offense won the game 59-56, getting what turned out to be a game-winning 50-yard touchdown pass from Rob Schoenhoft to Devon Lyons.
Todd Boeckman got the majority of the reps with the ones, working about 60 percent of the time, while Troy Smith got around 20 percent. That left roughly 20 percent for Schoenhoft, and he made the most of it.
"Todd did some things today that show he can move the team," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. "Robby did, too. We know one thing for sure -- Troy's not playing against Miami. That's the only thing I know for sure. Next two weeks of practice will determine the rest.
"Todd was thrown into the fire a bit. He'll have a lot of good film to study."
For his part, Schoenhoft seemed pretty pleased.
"It's not a game, but it's still a great feeling. Being over in that stadium is awesome," Schoenhoft said. "Learning the playbook has been the hardest thing for me. It took me like a week to get it down on paper, and then more time just applying it. It's hard. It's really hard. So I'm definitely pleased with what I did.
Schoenhoft, a true freshman from Cincinnati, showed enough to the coaches that they would likely be less reluctant to take the redshirt off of him this year should it become necessary.
"Maybe I can be this year's Chad Henne," he chuckled. "There aren't many expectations, and I just want to go out there and get better all the time."
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</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Devon Lyons caught a 50-yard touchdown pass to win the game for the scarlet</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- End Lyons Image-->Among the other scoring plays in the scrimmage were a three-yard run by Smith and a 12-yard touchdown pass from Schoenhoft to Ted Ginn Jr.
"We went between 150-160 plays, and it was a warm one," Tressel said. "The intensity was good, and it was good at the end, which tells me we're in pretty good condition. There was good effort and good hitting, and it was a good day."
The defense was a little disappointed to be so close and not break through, but there were some positives to take out of it.
"It was a lot closer than it was in the spring, when they basically blew us out," defensive end Mike Kudla said. "I thought we had good effort, we were creating some things on defense, and it gives us confidence."
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• Tressel was giving everyone the rest of the weekend off, and most of the players were looking forward to that.
But some still won't be able to get football out of their system.
"I'm from Fort Lauderdale, so no one from my family is going to be here," safety Nate Salley said. "I'll probably be watching the film of the scrimmage. It will be good for us to see what we did well and what we need to work on."
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"We ran the Wing-T in high school, and that was the last time I really ran the ball a lot," he said. "So I like it. I couldn't have done it last year (at 255), but getting down to 238 has made me quicker. I'm not going to run 70 yards for a touchdown or anything, but I think I can get it done."
Schnittker said all the backs have had their moments this fall.
"I really think everyone is doing well," he said. "Antonio (Pittman) has looked explosive, Erik (Haw) has run well. Shaun Lane has moved over and is running hard. Maurice Wells has shown me some things. He's really fast."
When asked how Wells was picking up the pass blocking aspect of things -- usually the weakest part of a freshman's game -- Schnittker smiled.
"He found out you can cut block, so he's been enjoying that," Schnittker said. "But then the rush guys slow down, and that's going to force him to really improve on his protection. But he likes catching guys coming in really fast kind of by surprise."
• Smith said that he has no problem with any of the "punishment" Tressel is doling out, and he said it's made him a better person.
"It's humbling," he said. "I pride myself on being a leader for these guys, and I can't be out there with them. That gets to you. But I'm not letting it get me down. It's all about strength."
Tressel wouldn't really call what Smith is going through punishment, but said that there is a method and purpose behind it.
"We've got teaching going on with a lot of guys in a lot of different ways," Tressel said. "Troy is no exception, and he's doing a great job with the lesson."
• Tressel isn't worried about Justin Zwick missing practice time, and said he was confident he'd be back in the swing of things next week.
"His primary concern right now is getting healthy," Tressel said of Zwick.
• Tressel liked what he saw from the quarterbacks, and gained confidence in Boeckman especially.
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</td></tr><tr><td align="center">Todd Boeckman showed what he was capable of and got the majority of the reps with the first team</td></tr></tbody></table><!-- End Boeckman Image-->But he was quick to point out that quarterbacking is about decision-making, and he'll have a chance to see how well the youngsters did in that area after he looks at the film.
"It will be interesting to see the consistency of our protection," Tressel said. "I noticed Mike Kudla showing up in there, David Patterson, and some other guys. To me the passing game is all about protection. You come out and watch our seven-on-seven and we complete them all. But all of a sudden you get a line in there and it's a different world."
• Tressel came out and said Boeckman will play against Miami, as will Wells, and mentioned freshmen Lawrence Wilson, Doug Worthington, Andre Amos, Malcolm Jenkins and Jamario O'Neal by name as rookies who will almost certainly get in against Miami.
• While the Miami game draws closer, there's still a little bit of time for the Buckeyes to home in on what they do well.
"The first three days (of next week) we'll still be training ourselves," Tressel said. "Wednesday is a huge kicking day, and that will be big. We'll focus hard on special teams Tuesday and Wednesday, and maybe beginning Thursday we'll focus on the opener."
The players may want to begin learning about their opponent, but Tressel knows that everything comes in time.
"I'm excited about concentrating on us," Tressel said. "I like to find out how we can get better and who can do what. As it moves closer then you do start putting someone else's film on, but we've got a little bit more work to do before we can allow ourselves to think ahead."
• Bobby Carpenter ran about 10-12 plays at tight end, even making one catch for six yards.
But the highlight came on a miscommunication.
"One time Bobby thought it was a run and it was a pass where he was supposed to be going out, and the guy he blocked ended up about 12 yards on his back," Tressel said.
Salley said it would be interesting if he faced off against Carpenter.
"I didn't go against him today, but I'd be ready for it if it happened," Salley said. "It would be cool to hit him and then have him come to our side and be in our huddle. You don't see that very often."
• A lot has been made about the hair length of Carpenter, A.J. Hawk, Anthony Schlegel and Nick Mangold, but Tressel really doesn't have that much of a problem with it.
"Our rule is more about facial hair, that it's lined up. I went to school back in the day when there was diversity in hairdos. They play pretty hard and they're good kids."
When asked if he would follow suit, Tressel shook his head and said, "Long, gray hair doesn't do it."
• Injuries included Zwick (ankle), Santonio Holmes (foot), Rory Nicol (foot), Jim Cordle (foot), Albert Dukes (shoulder) and Mike D'Andrea (knee).
Tressel said of that bunch, Dukes, Cordle and Nicol will be out "a couple of weeks."
• Here are some meaningful statistics --
Passing
Schoenhoft 13-21-137 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Boeckman 9-18-40-0-1
T Smith 8-13-74-0-0
Rushing
Haw 9-37
Schnittker 9-36
Wells 9-33
T Smith 14-27, 1 TD
Pittman 10-26
Lane 11-17
Boeckman 3-5
Schoenhoft 2-3
Receiving (leaders only)
Lyons 9-105, 1 TD
Ginn 3-31, 1 TD
Kicking
Huston 2-2 FG
Pretorius 2-3, 1 blocked, 55 yard make
Interceptions
Whitner 1-21, TD
Field goal block
Nick Patterson
Both Henry Melton and Jamaal Charles ran very well on Saturday and probably helped cement themselves some playing time in the season opener against Louisiana-Lafayette. Melton looks like he's going to develop into this season's short yards and red-zone runner. The 275-pound freshmen picked up 29 yards and only three carries, while punishing anything in his way in the process. Meanwhile, Charles got the most work of any running back and finished the day with 40 yards and a touchdown on eight carries. Although he only showed it in flashes, Charles showed the burst that could allow him to be a nice change of pace back behind Selvin Young.
Offense hangs on <hr noshade="noshade" size="1" width="100%"> </td></tr><tr><td>Mike Wachsman
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</td> </tr></tbody> </table> It may have been a lot more of a tightrope act this time around, but the Ohio State offense managed to stay balanced and keep hold of its coveted scarlet jerseys during the Buckeyes jersey scrimmage Saturday afternoon at Ohio Stadium.
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Todd Boeckman got the majority of the reps with the ones, working about 60 percent of the time, while Troy Smith got around 20 percent. That left roughly 20 percent for Schoenhoft, and he made the most of it.
"Todd did some things today that show he can move the team," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. "Robby did, too. We know one thing for sure -- Troy's not playing against Miami. That's the only thing I know for sure. Next two weeks of practice will determine the rest.
"Todd was thrown into the fire a bit. He'll have a lot of good film to study."
For his part, Schoenhoft seemed pretty pleased.
"It's not a game, but it's still a great feeling. Being over in that stadium is awesome," Schoenhoft said. "Learning the playbook has been the hardest thing for me. It took me like a week to get it down on paper, and then more time just applying it. It's hard. It's really hard. So I'm definitely pleased with what I did.
Schoenhoft, a true freshman from Cincinnati, showed enough to the coaches that they would likely be less reluctant to take the redshirt off of him this year should it become necessary.
"Maybe I can be this year's Chad Henne," he chuckled. "There aren't many expectations, and I just want to go out there and get better all the time."
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"We went between 150-160 plays, and it was a warm one," Tressel said. "The intensity was good, and it was good at the end, which tells me we're in pretty good condition. There was good effort and good hitting, and it was a good day."
The defense was a little disappointed to be so close and not break through, but there were some positives to take out of it.
"It was a lot closer than it was in the spring, when they basically blew us out," defensive end Mike Kudla said. "I thought we had good effort, we were creating some things on defense, and it gives us confidence."
NOTES
• Tressel was giving everyone the rest of the weekend off, and most of the players were looking forward to that.
But some still won't be able to get football out of their system.
"I'm from Fort Lauderdale, so no one from my family is going to be here," safety Nate Salley said. "I'll probably be watching the film of the scrimmage. It will be good for us to see what we did well and what we need to work on."
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"We ran the Wing-T in high school, and that was the last time I really ran the ball a lot," he said. "So I like it. I couldn't have done it last year (at 255), but getting down to 238 has made me quicker. I'm not going to run 70 yards for a touchdown or anything, but I think I can get it done."
Schnittker said all the backs have had their moments this fall.
"I really think everyone is doing well," he said. "Antonio (Pittman) has looked explosive, Erik (Haw) has run well. Shaun Lane has moved over and is running hard. Maurice Wells has shown me some things. He's really fast."
When asked how Wells was picking up the pass blocking aspect of things -- usually the weakest part of a freshman's game -- Schnittker smiled.
"He found out you can cut block, so he's been enjoying that," Schnittker said. "But then the rush guys slow down, and that's going to force him to really improve on his protection. But he likes catching guys coming in really fast kind of by surprise."
• Smith said that he has no problem with any of the "punishment" Tressel is doling out, and he said it's made him a better person.
"It's humbling," he said. "I pride myself on being a leader for these guys, and I can't be out there with them. That gets to you. But I'm not letting it get me down. It's all about strength."
Tressel wouldn't really call what Smith is going through punishment, but said that there is a method and purpose behind it.
"We've got teaching going on with a lot of guys in a lot of different ways," Tressel said. "Troy is no exception, and he's doing a great job with the lesson."
• Tressel isn't worried about Justin Zwick missing practice time, and said he was confident he'd be back in the swing of things next week.
"His primary concern right now is getting healthy," Tressel said of Zwick.
• Tressel liked what he saw from the quarterbacks, and gained confidence in Boeckman especially.
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"It will be interesting to see the consistency of our protection," Tressel said. "I noticed Mike Kudla showing up in there, David Patterson, and some other guys. To me the passing game is all about protection. You come out and watch our seven-on-seven and we complete them all. But all of a sudden you get a line in there and it's a different world."
• Tressel came out and said Boeckman will play against Miami, as will Wells, and mentioned freshmen Lawrence Wilson, Doug Worthington, Andre Amos, Malcolm Jenkins and Jamario O'Neal by name as rookies who will almost certainly get in against Miami.
• While the Miami game draws closer, there's still a little bit of time for the Buckeyes to home in on what they do well.
"The first three days (of next week) we'll still be training ourselves," Tressel said. "Wednesday is a huge kicking day, and that will be big. We'll focus hard on special teams Tuesday and Wednesday, and maybe beginning Thursday we'll focus on the opener."
The players may want to begin learning about their opponent, but Tressel knows that everything comes in time.
"I'm excited about concentrating on us," Tressel said. "I like to find out how we can get better and who can do what. As it moves closer then you do start putting someone else's film on, but we've got a little bit more work to do before we can allow ourselves to think ahead."
• Bobby Carpenter ran about 10-12 plays at tight end, even making one catch for six yards.
But the highlight came on a miscommunication.
"One time Bobby thought it was a run and it was a pass where he was supposed to be going out, and the guy he blocked ended up about 12 yards on his back," Tressel said.
Salley said it would be interesting if he faced off against Carpenter.
"I didn't go against him today, but I'd be ready for it if it happened," Salley said. "It would be cool to hit him and then have him come to our side and be in our huddle. You don't see that very often."
• A lot has been made about the hair length of Carpenter, A.J. Hawk, Anthony Schlegel and Nick Mangold, but Tressel really doesn't have that much of a problem with it.
"Our rule is more about facial hair, that it's lined up. I went to school back in the day when there was diversity in hairdos. They play pretty hard and they're good kids."
When asked if he would follow suit, Tressel shook his head and said, "Long, gray hair doesn't do it."
• Injuries included Zwick (ankle), Santonio Holmes (foot), Rory Nicol (foot), Jim Cordle (foot), Albert Dukes (shoulder) and Mike D'Andrea (knee).
Tressel said of that bunch, Dukes, Cordle and Nicol will be out "a couple of weeks."
• Here are some meaningful statistics --
Passing
Schoenhoft 13-21-137 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Boeckman 9-18-40-0-1
T Smith 8-13-74-0-0
Rushing
Haw 9-37
Schnittker 9-36
Wells 9-33
T Smith 14-27, 1 TD
Pittman 10-26
Lane 11-17
Boeckman 3-5
Schoenhoft 2-3
Receiving (leaders only)
Lyons 9-105, 1 TD
Ginn 3-31, 1 TD
Kicking
Huston 2-2 FG
Pretorius 2-3, 1 blocked, 55 yard make
Interceptions
Whitner 1-21, TD
Field goal block
Nick Patterson
About the backups --xrayrandy said:
Both Henry Melton and Jamaal Charles ran very well on Saturday and probably helped cement themselves some playing time in the season opener against Louisiana-Lafayette. Melton looks like he's going to develop into this season's short yards and red-zone runner. The 275-pound freshmen picked up 29 yards and only three carries, while punishing anything in his way in the process. Meanwhile, Charles got the most work of any running back and finished the day with 40 yards and a touchdown on eight carries. Although he only showed it in flashes, Charles showed the burst that could allow him to be a nice change of pace back behind Selvin Young.
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
i wish the article talked about our lines more, it all starts in the trenches. they both need to step up this year and get it done.
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
bob stoops is in mack browns head, this clarifies that fact.
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Texasize said:
Uh, no, you did, when you said, quote: "Charles has ankle breaking moves and is a national level track star. R. Bush-like but a better running back."
hookemhorns2004 said:
Uh, no, I said the Patriots couldn't come back from a 31-point deficit. Sheesh, do any Texas fans have the ability to comprehend basic English?
hookemhorns2004 said:
Carpenter is going to be a first-round pick, possibly over Hawk. Your ignorance is profound.
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hookemhorns2004
'Hook Em
MililaniBuckeye said:
So I put the grin in my message...it didn't make a difference?
Milani, I know what you said, I can tell you don't like me and I was just harassing you...jeez.
Anyway, you guys look to have a balanced offense this year, which should take your team far....
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texasfight06
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Just tired of reading Bush-likezincfinger said:"Shrubbery-like"? Does this mean that he's slow, or that he needs to be pruned? Or that if you don't bring him to me, I'll say "Ni!" again?
that's better to hear, I just heard about the scrimmage from a friend down in Austin in a two min. conversation.xrayrandy said:
I apologize for assuming that it was the first kick team, not like it would have been uncharacteristic.
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catdaddyhorn
Rookie
I dont no about anybody else, but it was pretty obvious to me that the implication of his statement was that Charles would be an every down back as opposed to Reggie Bush who doesn't even lead the Trojans in carries or rushing yards.
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