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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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8. If Derrick Johnson could only tackle VY 4 out of 10 times, that is proof that Hawk and the rest of the better LB corps won't be able to do any better. Never mind the fact that DJ has been criticized for his lack of size... because there's no difference between 6'2 230 (DJ) and 6'2 245 (hawk), 6'3 255 (Carpenter), 6'2 245 (Schlegel), and 6'3 250 (D'Andrea).
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The DJ quote about 4 out of 10 times has been so taken out of context it blows my mind. When that was said DJ was simply trying to praise VY. Who knows if it is actually the truth and I would be very suprised if it was. The fact is the quote should never be used to prove how good VY is, how bad DJ was, or to comapare DJ to AJ. It was an exageration. Some idiot on orangebloods decided that it worked well for his arguement and now people are taking it at face value.


and whoever said that benson wasnt our offense last year was wrong, but remember you are talking to a fan base that replaced ricky williams with hodges mitchel and still had a great year. we have confidence in our running game.
 
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jwinslow said:
8. If Derrick Johnson could only tackle VY 4 out of 10 times, that is proof that Hawk and the rest of the better LB corps won't be able to do any better. Never mind the fact that DJ has been criticized for his lack of size... because there's no difference between 6'2 230 (DJ) and 6'2 245 (hawk), 6'3 255 (Carpenter), 6'2 245 (Schlegel), and 6'3 250 (D'Andrea).
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You forgot to mention how dog-shit slow our LBs are (Hawk 4.46, Carpenter 4.52, D'Andrea (sub 4.5, can't remember exact time)).
 
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HL, most of you have been great visitors and that rant was part in jest, part directed at those who think you can write OSU off for some of those reasons. I don't mind people having confidence in this aspect or that aspect, but blind knowledge of what WILL happen is what ticks me off with guys like 314.

D'Andrea is 4.46, from the official all-time records.
 
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In regards to the stats and all that bs: there are some things you just know, or have a feeling about from watching college football every weekend your entire life (granted I'm not that old). I know that JT is a better coach than mack brown, and that he wins the big games. I think you get a gut feeling watching your team year in and year out and know when your team will pull it out. For example, the patriots vs. colts and steelers the last couple years, and the 2002NC game come to mind. Thus, I tend to agree with Mili on the score prediction, and said confidence in it.

On another note: do you think that troy smith missing the miami (oh) game is a blessing in disguise? I only say that because he doesn't even have to think about that game, and can concentrate on preparing for just the texas game. This is assuming TS gets the lion's share of the snaps in the texas game of course. The coaching staff then ends up starting the season with a qb who isn't overlooking miami (oh), and a qb who is totally prepared for texas whenever he comes in the game.
 
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And now the question of whether or not Smith starts or even plays in the Texas game forces the Texas staff to scheme for two totally different types of QBs. You don't think Tressel is going to play this for all it's worth? Another advantage OSU...
 
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xrayrandy said:
Saying that facing a running QB makes the Texas D's preparations different is like saying that Texas Tech has to do something special to prepare to face a 4 wide set.
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Actually it does make it completely different and will force the Longhorn's D to be ready for totally opposite ends of the spectrum quarterbacks
 
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xrayrandy said:
Saying that facing a running QB makes the Texas D's preparations different is like saying that Texas Tech has to do something special to prepare to face a 4 wide set.
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Horrible example.

Does Mack Brown allow full contact on Vince Young in practice?

I doubt it...so preparations for a mobile QB are different.
 
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osugrad21 said:
Does Mack Brown allow full contact on Vince Young in practice?

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Even if he did, no defensive players can tackle Vince anyway, haven't you read all of the our posts? He is unstoppable.

In all seriousness, I think that being the second game of the year, Mack can actually be prepared for both styles. I doubt he is spending much time prepping for Lou Laf.

With OSU's receivers, I would think that you would want the pocket passer. I know Smitty did good against Michigan, but it seems like he might have been a little shaky in the past. Any chance Tressel plays more than one?
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texasfight06 said:
With OSU's receivers, I would think that you would want the pocket passer. I know Smitty did good against Michigan, but it seems like he might have been a little shaky in the past. Any chance Tressel plays more than one?
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Good chance of that.

As for Troy vs. the Pocket Passer, TS rolling out added a new dimension to the offense and made the intermediate routes dangerous as flat responsibilities were tested as he approached the LOS and Safeties were just hoping they were deep enough as he rolled out....Shazor obviously wasn't.
 
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I see it as a three part answer:

1) Troy will make more things happen with his feet. He's not VY, but he's at least as good of a passer, and can make things happen when coverage or pressure disrupts the passing play.

2) Boeckman may be our best dropback passer, and will be more patient in passing the ball vs. Troy scrambling too early (which he improved immensely on). He has enough escapability that he can avoid a rush, but he's not going to be slicing through your defense like Troy could.

3) Zwick may be better than TB if he has become confident. He was very gutsy in the Alamo Bowl, but I am reserving judgment for when I see him gut it out against a tough team. In his defense, he never had a chance without a line or running game, and only one receiver.

- I'm sure it won't come to this with three experienced QBs, but boy did Schoenhoft look incredible in this summer's all-star games. He won't start in this game, but will likely push Boeckman for PT down the road.
 
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One thing that seems to escape you xray is that you can't tout players at the same position. You could at WR or DB, but you can only have so many DTs playing (yes I know they rotate), and even less TEs. Thomas should be a stud as usual, and if you are running a spread offense you will have very limited PT for other TE's.

Since Texas' WR corps are largely about "guess what he did in HS" or "during spring practice"... we should be able to talk up Albert Dukes.

This kid came from the same HS as Santonio Holmes, and is supposed to be better than him per his HS coach and by some of our staff. He has been lighting it up all spring, and some of our veterans expect big things out of him. And in a spread offense, he will be our #4 WR.

He still needs to work on holding onto the ball, but his sheer athleticism was dominant all spring... including in the spring game.

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