Game Thread Game Two: Ohio State 20, Akron 2 (Final)

[TooTall]

Wait wait wait...just a second. Akron beat NC State last year. THE SAME NC State that handed Div 1aa national champion App. State their only loss of the season? So what you are saying is that Akron is better than the best team in D1aa. Hmmm...I guess i'll have to agree. This is a tougher opponent than App. State would be. So in conclusion...MICHIGAN SUCKS!

Congratulations? On beating a team who beat a team, who beat a team a year later? In a game where Armanti Edwards didn't even play... Maybe some cleanup in the 4th quarter. But congratulations! I'm sure you're so proud of that win!

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Congratulations? On beating a team who beat a team, who beat a team a year later? In a game where Armanti Edwards didn't even play... Maybe some cleanup in the 4th quarter. But congratulations! I'm sure you're so proud of that win!

Akron: The guys behind the guys behind they guys.

 

[Buckeye86]

Congratulations? On beating a team who beat a team, who beat a team a year later? In a game where Armanti Edwards didn't even play... Maybe some cleanup in the 4th quarter. But congratulations! I'm sure you're so proud of that win!

You missed the mocking/sarcasm font.

 

[TooTall]

Akron: The guys behind the guys behind they guys.

So then is it technically a three way split for the I-AA national title? I know App State did all the work but NC State and Akron HAVE to get their cut!

 

[lvbuckeye]

And then you wonder why they write on zipsnation what they write.

I root for Ohio State when they don't play MAC teams, and I love Ohio, but Ohio State does not represent me.

Using that logic, does Ohio University represent you? Uh huh...thought so.

i root for them. i root for all Ohio teams.

 

[martinss01]

Obviously the first of those scenarios is not remotely comparable to the latter two. Many thought that Miami was better or significantly better than OSU in '02. And many thought that OSU was better or significantly better than UF in '06. But no one ever thought that those teams were not, fundamentally and structurally, on the same level. Everyone thought that about UM and Appalachian State. Everyone still does, and rightly so. That's precisely why an otherwise relatively unimportant non-conference game became a huge story. If UF had upset OSU in the preseason of '06, or if OSU had upset Miami in the preseason of '02, it wouldn't have been that big a deal. Because those teams are competing at the same level.

tOSU didn't belong on the same field.
tOSU would get waxed by iowa, if they aren't even good enough to win their own conference how can they expect to take on miami.

statements similar to those listed above were made in regards to tOSU vrs. miami. not that i agreed with them. simply pointing out that this arguement is based 100% off perception.

speaking of perception. am i the only one that didn't find scum loosing to app state shocking? eye brow raising worthy perhaps. but it really wasn't all that surprising. app state was a bad matchup for scum. in fact, anyone with a good passing offense is a bad matchup for scum right now. their secondary was young coming into this season and were replacing a rather underacheiving one to begin with. who replaced the underacheiving group that came before them. besides, scum has a tendancy to drop an early season game to a nobody to begin with. which indicates that they typically are not prepaired at the begining of the season or have a tendancy to overlook teams.

division aside. if you don't show up prepaired, motiviated to play, the ball doesn't bouce your way, and the other team shows up ready your probably going to walk out with a L. or at the very least a good scare.

remember, we needed a 50+ yrd field goal against the juggernaut that is marshal a few years back. many would argue, and i feel rightfully so, that several 1AA teams would compete favorably with many mac schools. oh and scum was a missed field goal away from surviving that game. if one more scummer makes a block its an ugly win.

 

[BB73]

FYI, tickets went on sale online this morning at hangonsloopy.com.

 

[osugrad21]

BN $

Steve Helwagen discusses the upset potential in this game.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I was at the OSU / Marshall game a few years ago where we could have easily been beaten. And that was a "tune up" game as well. It could certainly happen if we aren't mentally prepared.

I think our 2007 Boeckman-and-Beanie-led team is siginificantly better than the 2004 Zwick-and-Ross-led team. Also, although Marshall was 6-6 in 2004 they also played Georgia very tough at Athens, 13-6...much better than their record suggests. Who did Akron beat last week and by how much? Oh yeah, frickin' Army by 8 points at home...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

speaking of perception. am i the only one that didn't find scum loosing to app state shocking? eye brow raising worthy perhaps. but it really wasn't all that surprising. app state was a bad matchup for scum.

No, you're not the only one. I was saying well before the game that ASU would give Michigan trouble...

 

[zincfinger]

tOSU didn't belong on the same field.
tOSU would get waxed by iowa, if they aren't even good enough to win their own conference how can they expect to take on miami.

statements similar to those listed above were made in regards to tOSU vrs. miami. not that i agreed with them. simply pointing out that this arguement is based 100% off perception.

Hang your hat on Trev Alberts's comments if you like, or look at the betting lines. The line in the '02 Fiesta Bowl was around 14. There was no line in the UM/App St. game. That's because it was viewed as a scrimmage, and un-bet-able, since the score differential was thought to be basically up to UM, and how bad a shellacking they chose to lay. That's completely different from thinking that one team is superior to another team that competes at the same level, regardless of Trev's hyperbole.

speaking of perception. am i the only one that didn't find scum loosing to app state shocking?

If not the only, then one of the very few.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Hang your hat on Trev Alberts's comments if you like, or look at the betting lines. The line in the '02 Fiesta Bowl was around 14. There was no line in the UM/App St. game. That's because it was viewed as a scrimmage, and un-bet-able, since the score differential was thought to be basically up to UM, and how bad a shellacking they chose to lay.

Wasn't there a line of something like 27.5?

If not the only, then one of the very few.

Just goes to show how few people knew about App State...

 

[zincfinger]

Wasn't there a line of something like 27.5?

Someone may have offered such a line (I know BP offered 26.5 in for-fun-only betting), but Vegas didn't have a line on this game.

Just goes to show how few people knew about App State...

Maybe. Although I'd suspect that the vast majority of people who were familiar with App State, while they may have thought the Mountaineers would put up a decent fight, didn't really believe they could win the game.

 

[Dryden]

remember, we needed a 50+ yrd field goal against the juggernaut that is marshal a few years back. many would argue, and i feel rightfully so, that several 1AA teams would compete favorably with many mac schools. oh and scum was a missed field goal away from surviving that game. if one more scummer makes a block its an ugly win.

We were replacing 14 NFL draft picks. There wasn't a unit on that team that wasn't decimated. 3 of 5 on the OL, 3 of 4 on the DL, the starting QB, half the back 7, all the starting WRs, hell ... even half of the backup WRs. All drafted. The best returning players we had that anybody could even name were the place kicker and the short white guy that was out of position at CB to begin with.

Michigan returned virtually the entire offense of an 11-2 team that was 3 points short of playing for the national championship themselves last season. They have 4-year Sr starters all over the place on both sides of the ball.

These two situations are not at all comparable.

We came into 2006 with the same expectations as Michigan entering 2007. How did Troy and the boys respond? They hung 28 points on one of the MAC's best teams in a quarter (and six seconds).

 

[zip81]

But recall what the origin of this particular avenue of debate actually is. No one here is trying to disparage Akron, or any other mid-major. The impetus of all this is that several on the Akron board felt that it was traitorous, or otherwise fundamentally wrong, to be a fan of both Akron and OSU. The argument was essentially that a true Akron fan could never be a fan of OSU. Several here took issue with that point of view, on the grounds that Akron and OSU are fundamentally different, and thus there is no conflict in being a fan of both simultaneously. That's all.

If you remember way back when, I said that I rooted for Ohio State when they didn't play MAC teams.

I also said that Ohio State does not represent me.

that's all...