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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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Tlangs said:
The funny thing about one of the plays that Schlerreth (sp?) used to highlight why AJ wasn't a top ten pick was a play in which he made the tackle. Schlerreth said he didn't attack the line of scrimmage. He made the takle for minimal gain. what else do you want from the guy. Run full bore into the line of scrimmage and not following his deffensive assignments. What if it was a screen pass or play action....

what a doucheabag
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Was that the play where a fullback (or guard, can't remember) came out and tried to block AJ, followed up by a RB running a route? Schlereth said he needed to engage the blocker...which would have ended up with a RB running free down the middle of the field for at least 10-15 yards...it seemed pretty clear to me that he was grasping for criticism

Schlereth is a moron, and I got a kick out of Tom Jackson..."I agree, it was a safe pick, and by safe I mean the best defender in the entire draft" :). Schlereth might have been a pretty good lineman, but it seems he is drinking the same Kool Aid that Mark may was addicted to until he finally came around

And I don't think my stopwatch ticked once before the started talking about changing Vince Young's delivery, mechanics, and teaching him how to play football after he was picked...
 
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texasfight06 said:
I do think that there is some correlation to draft picks, talent level, success of team, but as football is such a team sport, I don't think that the correlations are direct. If you went by the drafting of kids from teams, you would think that NC State had the most dominant defensive line in college football history. Everybody knew that tOSU's defense was great last year, and that SA Holmes was a great receiver, and they all played up to that potential last year solidifying their spots in the draft. The way that tOSU ended 2004 and performed in all of 2005 shows that the program did a helluva lot with the talent they recruited. And they lost to one team that had their best offensive and defensive players drafted #3 and #7, and another team that had a strong core of veteran players, so I don't buy any argument that they should have beaten those less "talented" teams. Also, we can't forget that Whittner and Holmes left school early, so those draftees did not take advantage of their four years of playing time to live up to their talent levels.

Good points, all well handled. As I stated earlier, I was just trying to put a little fire back in the thread.
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I don't buy the argument, texas is loaded with a ton of future draft picks that were not chosen this weekend (Charles, Okam, etc). The draft is a measuring stick for an nfl factory, not a college program. Tons of great CFB players are meager pros (Krenzel, Dorsey, A Smith, etc). As for PSU, they had about four thousand seniors (many fifth year), an unbelievable home field advantage, the game was a very cold downpour, and Troy didn't come to play.

I don't think the team underachieved early as much as I think Troy underachieved (Hamby, Huston went undrafted). OSU lived up to their potential once Troy got his head on straight. He's been a work in progress, and until this winter Troy has always been preparing as the backup, or less.
 
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Posted: 5:50 PM, April 30, 2006 by Anonymous
What the heck are the Packers thinking?
And AJ Hawk at pick 5??? He did awesome in college but if you saw his clips, did you notice that he was always late to react on pass plays? He's not going to be able to do that with the speed of the NFL, he needs to get way better at anticipating routes. Also, even on his good clips it took him a while to get through college blocking... he'll get crushed in the NFL. Granted, he'll probably be a great blitzer & get good sack stats but I wouldn't waste a 5th pick on a blitzer. Should've traded down for more picks then gambled on the NFL quick Thomas Howard from UTEP.

Here is a si post from a disgruntled fan concerning AJ Hawk. I don't know what game he's been watching--Anyway, thought you would find it amusing.
 
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NFL Speed

"NFL Speed" - When an analyst gets lazy and doesn't like a certain player this is the 1st thing they say a player doesn't have enough of to make it in the NFL.

AJ Hawk is plenty fast enough, hell, he tracked down Vince Young a couple of times which left my jaw on the floor and I'm a huge vy fan and you just don't see that often... Of course, I also hear that VY isn't fast enough for the NFL either, so maybe they have a point :wink2: .

Does anybody else see this!
 
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anyone who says that AJ Hawk can't play in the NFL is over thinking things WAAAYYY too much.

He reminds me of guys like Dat Ngyen and Zach Thomas except with athletic ability and prototypical size....what the hell is not to like about this guy. He was born to play linebacker, period.
 
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texas fans, how often have you seen VY wrapped up like AJ did on 9/10/05? I have only seen 5-6 of his games, but I'm not sure I ever saw someone handle VY's athleticism like AJ. Even Carpenter had some trouble corralling VY
 
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The guy can play. There was that play in the fourth quarter where he leveled VY. I think we called a timeout, so VY could collect himself. We never see VY in so much pain (he did hurt an ankle against CU) and you knew it was a monster hit. That is why we have so much respect for Hawk. VY pulled himself together, and went back into the game. Those two are WARRIORS. Here's to seeing them have some more close encounters in the NFL.
 
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Id like to bring up a point that has not been discussed.

There is a rule change that has almost gone unnoticed but will have a very large impact on college football next season.

The NCAA has changed the size of the kicking tee used for kick off's by kickers. They have reduced the it from a height of 2" to 1"

What that basically does is take roughly 7-10 yards off the length of a kick off. OSU's kicker Pettrey has a monster leg and using the new kicking tee he is about 85% of the kicks go 5-7 yds deep into the endzone. Using the old tee's he usually kicked the ball out of the back of the endzone.

I honestly do not know anything about Texas kicker. Does he have a monster leg?

The reason I suggest that this will have a major impact in the game is that it puts the kick return back into the game. Most kickers struggle to put the ball into the endzone. With the change most kicks will be caught somewhere around the 5 yard line. Guys that normal reach around the 5 now will be reaching the 10.

That extra 5-7 yards may not seem like much but its actually very significant. On average a kick caught at the goal line is returned to the 20 now that return will be close to the 30. For the buckeyes thats very important. With Tresselball, feild position is critical. That means if the offense manages 1 first down and goes 3 and out, they are kicking the ball some where around the OSU 40.


Trapasso averages 45 yds per kick. That means on a dreadful offensive drive teams are starting around there own 20 Much more than that and they are starting inside there own 20.

It may not seem that important but I believe this kicking tee change will have a significant impact on the game. Expect scoring across the board to go up
 
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where exactly is this 7-10 yards statistic coming from? Huston booted kicks out of the endzone too, but that doesn't mean it always happened. Likewise, I doubt that pettrey averages kicks that go 2-7 yards out of the end zone (12-17 from the goal line... given your 7-10 variance). I'm sure he can often do that, but I think your average is a bit off.

I do agree it will have an impact, but I don't buy that it will be a very large one. How is it going to drastically change scoring? How many games will be affected by that 5 yard variance? What about the guys who bring it out from the 2 (rather than 3 yards deep) and get planted behind the 20?

It may have a large impact for certain returners (like Teddy)... I'm just not sure it's gonna add that many points across the board.
 
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