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Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

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xrayrandy said:
Texas TEs Vs tOSU LBs - Tweedie has a big advantage as a blocker, while Finley does as a receiver. Tweedie as a receiver is even, while Finley as a blocker has to be considered a liability going in. Finley against your safeties is also a big mismatch. Overall advantage Texas as a expect 5 or 6 TD receptions and at least 1 TD from them.
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never got a response to this. You also have predicted 4 tds on the ground... so basically Texas will be scoring 9-10 tds?
 
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bukIpower said:
TexasFight06- You make a good point that yes it seems easy that you should be able to hit a quick slant/Fade. How many of you guys on this board have been QB's? I know I was a QB in high school for a year and throwing passes is very easy in practice. Seriously though once you get in a game and you have people flying around trust me its NOT easy.
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I agree with most of your points, I was merely responding to Buckeyerob's notion of sticking nine in the box. I fully expect tOSU to have a more complex scheme than playing goal line defense all day.

bukIpower said:
I couldn't agree with you anymore Dryden... 100 percent accurate on my counts. If not for VY last year a lot of those big plays you guys realed off wouldn't of happened. Give me a number of big plays that happened without VY being involvled in some way or another. I can count only 1, and thats a 80 yard run against Oklahoma by Charles. This year you'll find out how good your coaching staff really is because I do recall before the big numbers this year you wanted Greg Davis' Head on a pike.
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If you count Charles' run, you should count Ramonce's run in the Rose Bowl as well. Other plays: Robison caused fumble leading to Rod Wright's rumblin' stumblin' TD, The Griffin blocked punt, Griffin returned TD, oh wait, I guess that's cheating......
 
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Haha ... I hear ya Texasfight... I only knew of one but I was sure there was more!! You guys have a GREAT team, but man I know some are making the fatal mistake of thinking because you return everyone besides yoru QB you'll be fine. We said the same thing and we couldnt' do anything at all after we lost Krenzal. You guys will be well off once your QB gets some time in the system, but I'm extreamly happy we get you early. Cuz now we have a better chance at tie'n up the series 1-1... plus it would make for better convo if both us buckeyes and Texas fans could say "Fine we both won one and lost one so we're even and just as good"... cuz both are fine school's.
 
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The 2005 theme of "let Vince be Vince" and "the Zone Read" would seem to indicate that the best job Davis has ever done of coaching was to stop trying to do it, and give Vince essentially one play to run.
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I think most Texas fans will agree with this.

The most impressive thing I saw in the spring game is that Davis appears to be continuing with this idea. When Applewhite and Simms where the QBs, his play/route adjustments where very conservative and the QBs seldom challenged even somewhat loose coverage. It became quite easy for a well coached team (Think OU with Mike Stoops as DC) to actually control what we checked into.

With Vince at QB the offense was initially simplified, by taking away or limiting a lot of those reads. As it happens the offense was a lot more successful with the athletes on offense simply outplaying the defense most of the time.

In the spring it looked to me like Davis is continuing to let the receivers and QBs challenge the defense more as they have the past 20 games. I like it, it beats watching Roy Williams run 3 yard outs all day..
 
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My question isn't about Davis's skill, but the newfound confidence some Texas fans have in him after the 2005 season.
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I agree that some of the new confidence is unwarrented but I also understand where much of it comes from. They are of the opinion that Davis turned a corner last year. It is too easy to say that it was all because of vince because lets be honest....it took a lot of balls to trust in vince the way they did....there was almost no one that thought vince could do what he did. On top of that it was the situational play calling that people loved last year....I guess my point is that while I think that fans should show cautious optimism I do understand why so many have changed their tune<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 
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xrayrandy said:
I think most Texas fans will agree with this.

The most impressive thing I saw in the spring game is that Davis appears to be continuing with this idea. When Applewhite and Simms where the QBs, his play/route adjustments where very conservative and the QBs seldom challenged even somewhat loose coverage. It became quite easy for a well coached team (Think OU with Mike Stoops as DC) to actually control what we checked into.

With Vince at QB the offense was initially simplified, by taking away or limiting a lot of those reads. As it happens the offense was a lot more successful with the athletes on offense simply outplaying the defense most of the time.

In the spring it looked to me like Davis is continuing to let the receivers and QBs challenge the defense more as they have the past 20 games. I like it, it beats watching Roy Williams run 3 yard outs all day..
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Randy brings up another great point...durring the simms/major years we had so much tallent on the offense but absolutely never tried to "out athlete" anyone. Texas fans constantly joke about the 3 yard out because anytime a defense gave us a cushion we would just throw it out there and hope roy broke one. Last year, for the first time, we let our athletes eat up the cushion and blow by the defenders
 
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High Lonesome said:
I agree that some of the new confidence is unwarrented but I also understand where much of it comes from. They are of the opinion that Davis turned a corner last year. It is too easy to say that it was all because of vince because lets be honest....it took a lot of balls to trust in vince the way they did....there was almost no one that thought vince could do what he did. On top of that it was the situational play calling that people loved last year....I guess my point is that while I think that fans should show cautious optimism I do understand why so many have changed their tune<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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It wasn't just Davis that turned the corner. Mack did too, and he will be the first to tell you. I honestly think that Vince has fundamentally changed the entire staff's coaching philosophy.

Greg Davis has always had a brilliant mind for football, but he wasn't a good coach until he came out of his fetal position (i.e. found someone he could trust).

Of course, I could be totally wrong. We might revert back to the 2002 offense, which was painful to watch.
 
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slickrick said:
Who wins this game depends on defense, if our young secondary can step up and make plays OSU should win because they will not have a scrambling QB to rely on...anyway who is Texas starting QB next year
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Go to the section at the top of the first post on this page. Click on the arrow next to 'Search this thread' and enter 'McCoy' or 'Snead'. Their names within this thread will then be highlighted as you scroll through it.
 
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Pittman

While a fine back, Pittman doesn't really scare Texas fans. He did have that great run against ND, but ND was a tad slow on defense. Perhaps he will be stronger with TS's emergence, but he seems to be outside being classified as an elite back. Now Chris Wells is supposed to be another matter--he's already being labeled all-everything. Would any OSU fans care to elaborate on how they see the battle shaping up between the two. Do you think Wells will dethrone Pittman, much like that protagonist in "The Program" dethroned the senior TB?
 
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I think you're underestimating him just a tad because of the lack of publicity around him and the fact that he only got 75 yards against you guys last year. I don't know if you should be "worried" about him but he definitely needs to be one of the people you need to contain which won't be easy.
 
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ND is not the calling card of Pittman (he made plenty of big runs all year). There have been a number of texas fans on here and hornfans who seem to be impressed with pittman. Wells is a freak, but he's got a lot of learning to do before he challenges for the starting RB position.
 
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BuckeyeKid789 said:
I think you're underestimating him just a tad because of the lack of publicity around him and the fact that he only got 75 yards against you guys last year. I don't know if you should be "worried" about him but he definitely needs to be one of the people you need to contain which won't be easy.
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I think I'm damning him with faint praise, but he seems more like a medium-level threat. Troy Smith and Ginn are the ones that make you hold your breath when they have the ball. Of course, Pittman could have a breakout year, but do you expect Wells to come in and wrest the postion away this year?
 
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