Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

[EngineerHorn]

I assume you don't invite Randy and UTMNC over to the crib much eh??

:)

You're right, I don't. But that's kind of my point.

When surrounded by opposing fans, I think it is likely that both Randy and UTMNC become more argumentative and contentious, just because of the differing points of view. Around UT fans, I wouldn't be surprised if they became less optimistic. Again, that's human nature.

That brings me to my next point. If you go to Hornfans, most are hoping for an effective, efficient, low-risk passing game and a darn good running game. You won't find anyone expecting the 50 points and 510 yards of offense we averaged last year. If you do, they deserve what they get.

How all of that translates to the Ohio State game depends on the person.

 

[xrayrandy]

so you don't know how many big plays your team had? or you don't know which big play guys from your team is returning?

Since you obviously haven't been following the thread or Texas for that matter. We don't know yet if Ramonce Taylor is returning to the team and he had two of the big offensive plays.

Someone asked if I watch games, and the answer is yes, I do.

 

[buckeyeboy]

That is why Texas is the most likely team to win the next national championship.

. Good one. My friend, you are in for a disappointing fall.

As for a few other ridiculous points you have made,

(1) Your statement that our offense is not to be feared b/c we only put up 34 against ND's crummy defense. If you actually took the time to inform yourself before you started typing, you'd realize that in that game we had two FGs inexplicably blocked, and a fumble on an attempted option at ND's 8 yard line. That game could have very easily been a near 50 pointer for us. Go check the total yards if you don't believe me.

(2) Your statement that you can't see how our offense will put up more than 13 or 14 points against you. Again, it's laughable. Your entire logic is predicated upon things being exactly the same as last year. You refuse to see that your defense is losing some great players (I know, I know, the guy filling in for the Thorpe award winner is even better ), and you refuse to admit that it's even possible that our offese, Troy in particular, could possibly perform any better than it did against you last season.

I'm not sure who will win. I think it will be a fairly high scoring, close game. But your claims that UT will put up about 30 and we'll score only about 14 makes your homerism readily apparent, and it destroys your credibility.

 

[buckeyeboy]

Someone asked if I watch games, and the answer is yes, I do.

You apparently missed last year's Fiesta Bowl (see previous post).

 

[BuckeyeRob]

I'm not saying he will be Vince....but Jevan Snead is in "sniffing range"

He was the #3 ranked QB out of High School and #61 on the rivals top 100

Thats a pretty darn good recruit...

and no, I don't think he will be as good as young was last year but there is a chance he will be a better passer than young was his freshman year and its a pretty decent chance at that

I never said he wasnt a good recruit. I said he isnt in Youngs class of athlete. Young was #1 quarterback and #1 over all. Snead has 4 other quarterbacks listed in front of him on the top 100. Snead doesnt have anywhere near the size or speed of Young.

I stand by my statements. The way to beat Texas in Youngs first season was take away the running game. Arkansas, Oklahoma and WSU(bowl game) all did that. Benson was held in check by those teams Young had a great game running on the OU defense but as a young quarterback, his arm got him into trouble.

 

[osugrad21]

:)

You're right, I don't. But that's kind of my point.

When surrounded by opposing fans, I think it is likely that both Randy and UTMNC become more argumentative and contentious, just because of the differing points of view. Around UT fans, I wouldn't be surprised if they became less optimistic. Again, that's human nature. .

Absolutely...

However, if I was to visit HornFans, I would realize that I am on another fanbase's board and show some respect by curtailing my enthusiasm and debates to keep the peace. That would allow for a continuous flow of discussion amongst intelligent fans instead of some constant pissing match over meaningless speculation and numbers that really don't mean jack. Again, that's human nature when said humans act with a little bit of sense and tact.

That is my only point in this clusterfudge of a thread...

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

you'd realize that in that game we had two FGs inexplicably blocked

I can explain it, but the poor kid has been through enough already.

 

[Dryden]

Your statement that you can't see how our offense will put up more than 13 or 14 points against you. Again, it's laughable. Your entire logic is predicated upon things being exactly the same as last year. You refuse to see that your defense is losing some great players (I know, I know, the guy filling in for the Thorpe award winner is even better ), and you refuse to admit that it's even possible that our offese, Troy in particular, could possibly perform any better than it did against you last season.

I am especially amused by the contention that the Texas D will be a dominant force and simply reload with players better than the ones that departed -- this is the same dominating D that shut down USC, only allowing 574 yards, 30 1st downs, a 4:00 minute ToP advantage, and 38 points.

But hey, that D is the strength of their team, it got them their first national title in however many years, it'll get them their second!

They can win it all again without Vince, who was merely a cog in the machine for two Rose Bowls.

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

I think it was Bruce Feldman pointed out a few weeks ago in his blog about how defenses don't win championships. After all look at the Title game. 574 yards of offense to any college team hardly calls for dominating. If UT was dominiting the Tiny 12 or North Texas I'll buy that, not dominating defense of CFB.

 

[martinss01]

I think it was Bruce Feldman pointed out a few weeks ago in his blog about how defenses don't win championships. After all look at the Title game. 574 yards of offense to any college team hardly calls for dominating. If UT was dominiting the Tiny 12 or North Texas I'll buy that, not dominating defense of CFB.

hmmm... don't forget to mention they were playing argueably the best offense in the nation with argueably the best offensive player in the nation.. i think its a rather tall order to ask any college level d to dominate a team with 2 heisman winners. while i expected the texas d to match up a lot better than they did with USC. even the tOSU d, which i feel was considerably better, would have had a rough go of it with USC.

the texas' d left the field with their o in a position to win the game. what more can you ask? while i see where you are coming from with your post and don't entirely disagree. im not sure that is the best of examples...

 

[Dryden]

The greatest defensive stand in Texas history, with the greatest collection of defensive talent in Texas history, is praised for not giving up a 31st 1st down to Lendale White, on a play that 65,000 people at the Rose Bowl knew was coming. :tongue2:

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Saying nothing of the TV audiance... :p

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I'm not saying he will be Vince....but Jevan Snead is in "sniffing range"

He was the #3 ranked QB out of High School and #61 on the rivals top 100

Thats a pretty darn good recruit...

and no, I don't think he will be as good as young was last year but there is a chance he will be a better passer than young was his freshman year and its a pretty decent chance at that

HL, I hope that UTMNC isn't starting to pass you the scotch. To say that a true freshman is in "sniffing range" of arguably Texas' best QB of all time, before this kid even sets foot on the field, is delusional hyperbole at best.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought HL was saying that Snead is comparable in potential to a Freshman Vince Young, not the VY of last year.

VY as a Frosh - while still very athletic and exciting - was clearly NOT the same VY that was on the field last year.... that is, VY matured and impoved from his Freshman to Junior years.. Especially with his arm.

 

[EngineerHorn]

hmmm... don't forget to mention they were playing argueably the best offense in the nation with argueably the best offensive player in the nation.. i think its a rather tall order to ask any college level d to dominate a team with 2 heisman winners. while i expected the texas d to match up a lot better than they did with USC. even the tOSU d, which i feel was considerably better, would have had a rough go of it with USC.

the texas' d left the field with their o in a position to win the game. what more can you ask? while i see where you are coming from with your post and don't entirely disagree. im not sure that is the best of examples...

Ah, so you're giving USC credit for their offensive performance. A strange way to look at it, but I'm going to agree with you.:)

That offense was fantastic and the USC coaching staff made excellent halftime adjustments. We had a good defense last year. Maybe a very good one, but it was going up against one of the best offenses of all time.

And I've said before what you said right there, they were just barely good enough to give us a chance to win the game. I'll take that.

Of course, it was also just one game. It would be a mistake to judge Ohio State's defense last year on just the Minnesota game. I think the same can be said for the Texas defense, especially when you consider the opponent.