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Your act is getting old. You know squat about football in general and your team. You can't even spell the names of half the players on your team and are even wrong about the amount of your defensive starters that are gone from last year's team. We've already explained dozens of times why our dropoff on defense won't be as much as nearly all outsiders think, and all you can come back with are Rainman-like replies like, "Yeah, nine starters gone. Not good. Yeah", and what someone to yet again explain why we'll be so good despite all the "new" players. Sorry, "Ray", but you'll just have to sit and watch Wapner in your K-Mart underwear.
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buckeyeboy
Still fortitudinous
And I thought I really wanted OSU to destroy UT after reading xray's posts...
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UTMNC
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That's exaxtly the point, for the majority of tOSU fans, the one's who use logic, and give reasonable validation for their optimism for their team, a 1 point win in Austin will be enough. But for the other very small few, your hatred for UT, caused by 1 loss, a 50 point tOSU win won't be enough, those are the one's that the next 4 month's are going to be very difficult for.
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Those few Buckeye fans whom you think have a "hatred" of Texas actually just want to spank the Longhorns because of UT "fans" like you.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
What hatred?? I said you're a talented team... Texas is prolly the 2nd team I wouldn't mind see'n win it all because I was proven that your team was great last year when you took the game in our house. You have talented players, great tradition, hell you even have blistering hot weather and hot women. It's not like we think your team is garbage but come on this is an Ohio State message board, and if you're going to come onto this board atleast get the facts straight (like how many players are missing on defense, and knowing atleast something about this years OSU team).
I think Ohio State wins because why?? Because I'm a huge fan and they're talented enough to play anyone in the nation as is Texas. Nothing personal but get a fuckin clue. What do you expect?? For us to admitt you'll beat us??
Here's what OSU's got goin for them...
A) We Return all but 1 of our playmakers on offense
B) We Have a proven leader at QB
C) Texas lost their leader Vince Young
D) Another Weapon Ramonce Taylor is probably out
E) Texas is losing 2 starters off their line helping our cause against your running game which in all honesty will depend if you win this game. Because if you run the ball at will, forget about it you'll win hands down.
F) Because of your young QB's their won't be nearly as much pressure on our young defense.
G) Texas Lost 2 d-lineman, and their leading tackler Aaron Harris. With Texas facing a run first oriented team we COULD open up lots of other options.
Texas returns TONS OF TALENT no doubt about that and you have more returning starters but we have returning starters were it COUNTS MOST. Your Losses on Defense and Offense both play into our hands. For example.
What would be a good matchup for a young defense?? An Offense who's lost some good lineman and who's lost thier leader or playermaker. WHICH HAS HAPPENED.
On the other side What would a talented offense match up best with?? A defense who's lost their spoken leaders as well as a couple role players WHICH HAS HAPPENED.
It'll be a close game but your losses play better to suite the bucks than they do for you....
I think Ohio State wins because why?? Because I'm a huge fan and they're talented enough to play anyone in the nation as is Texas. Nothing personal but get a fuckin clue. What do you expect?? For us to admitt you'll beat us??
Here's what OSU's got goin for them...
A) We Return all but 1 of our playmakers on offense
B) We Have a proven leader at QB
C) Texas lost their leader Vince Young
D) Another Weapon Ramonce Taylor is probably out
E) Texas is losing 2 starters off their line helping our cause against your running game which in all honesty will depend if you win this game. Because if you run the ball at will, forget about it you'll win hands down.
F) Because of your young QB's their won't be nearly as much pressure on our young defense.
G) Texas Lost 2 d-lineman, and their leading tackler Aaron Harris. With Texas facing a run first oriented team we COULD open up lots of other options.
Texas returns TONS OF TALENT no doubt about that and you have more returning starters but we have returning starters were it COUNTS MOST. Your Losses on Defense and Offense both play into our hands. For example.
What would be a good matchup for a young defense?? An Offense who's lost some good lineman and who's lost thier leader or playermaker. WHICH HAS HAPPENED.
On the other side What would a talented offense match up best with?? A defense who's lost their spoken leaders as well as a couple role players WHICH HAS HAPPENED.
It'll be a close game but your losses play better to suite the bucks than they do for you....
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campies
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Fella, is it another all-you-can-drink-and-type Scotch/Computer weekend down in your parts? I have a hard time believing that these are the best ideas you've come up with.
Back to the topic, I posed the scenario regarding our quarterbacks as they relate to a successful freshman like Chad Henne to ask, all other things equal, if a mid-season, 2004 Chad Henne were the quarterback entering the season for the 2006 Texas Longhorns, do you think our team would be deserving of a #1 ranking? Obviously this scenario is not perfect, and involves a few more variables, but for the sake of discussion, just assume. My point was that that type of team, with either Colt McCoy or Jevan Snead playing at that level could be as high as 50% or better based on what we've seen so far (just guestimating, but lets see where it goes).
Did Henne's success have anything to do with Braylon Edwards? Absolutely. He was a fantastic reciever. But Texas is not without similar playmakers at the wide reciever positions. Regardless of the national perception, or their tendancy to underestimate them, exicitment and confidence among the Texas fans hasn't been this high since the "Big 3" were on campus. In many ways, its equivalent to the way tOSU fans feel regarding their underrated, returning defense. In fact, I think its a perfect parallel. The only difference in that the majority of our playmakers here are returning starters and spent most of last season in that role, aside from a minority in returning starters along with talented but less seasoned returning players looking to take starting roles full time.
Truth be told, Texas does not have the single, NFL-prototype, playmaking wide reciever that all the offense runs through, ala Braylon Edwards, Roy Williams, etc, however, on the flip side, the "Big 3" weren't all that "big" or dominating in more than a few big games during their careers. And despite owning most of the Texas football recieving records, most would agree their careers were rather disappointing, at least in comparison to the kind of hype they came into the program with. The point here is that sometimes what appears to be less is actually more. This current crop of wideouts, from the coaches' and fans' perspectives at least, is much more cohesive as a unit than Roy, BJ and Sloan ever were, and so far, have been much more consistently successful in their production. Take into the account that Texas was primarily a running team last year with VY, and the guys still put up the kind numbers and plays they did which got us excited, with the shift in offensive strategy, and more throw-first, proficent quarterbacks at the helm, Texas fans have reason to expect more good things.
Oh yeah, and in spite of the single prototype wideout missing (I say missing relatively; Limas Sweed is 6'5, 220 with 4.5 speed, solid hands and dominant blocking, so he's the closest, though not a gamebreaker), do not mistake the current Texas WR's for a bunch of no-talent, team-first blue collars, who just get the job done. There's some serious, and young, talent on this team; dominating college talent for sure, and very likely good NFL talent down the road). RS-FR TE Jermichael Finley, Soph Quan Cosby, Jr's Limas Sweed, Billy Pittman, and Ramonce Taylor (maybe), along with talented, but under-used Soph's like Myron Hardy and George Walker. All top of their recruiting classes, and all coming into their own, or have proven it already on the field. And, and despite his mystery, if Jordan Shipley plays next year, (which, excluding being struck by lightning while removing his black cat from under a ladder, among other things, he should) everyone will get to see where all the hype has come from, and any talk of the Texas QB's lacking a reliable and dangerous target at WR will quickly fall away.
Thats my story.......
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I'm sorry, but neither Snead nor McCoy in their 2nd-ever game will be near the level of where Henne was in his sixth or seventh game, so that hypothesis is shot. If Vince Young were back, Texas would be the clear--emphasis on clear--per-season #1. If you had a QB that had some semblence of experience replacing Young, you could still have a good argument for being #1. But both your #1 and #2 QBs will have a grand total of four quarters of experience between them when they step on the field against us (and those four quarters will be against somewhat questionable caliber).
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